I hope you're happy with the pick the Pacers bought from the Kings.
Nba 2011-2012
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New Orleans should be fun to watch next season
Nonetheless, if he can at least contribute to 75% of the games, the guy OKC drafted could end up the steal of the draft.
Any knowledge of the guys Cleveland drafted and traded to Dallas?
Did they get Zeller from the Dallas trade?
Lots of doubt that Sullinger's athletic ability will not transpire to the NBA.
Yes, the Mavs traded #17 Zeller for:
#24 - Jared Cunningham [Oregon State guard]
#33 - Bernard James [27-year-old Florida State center]
#34 - Jae Crowder [Big East Player of the Year, Marquette forward]
You always want to go to the source for info, so here's the major Oregon paper on Cunningham:
I saw James a few times in some impressive games for the Noles, he's a very tough rebounded and dominated some much bigger names on the boards in big wins over UNC and Duke. He averaged 8.1 rebounds and 2.3 blocks to go with 10.8 points. But he's 27.
From the local Tallahasee Florida paper on James:
Jae Crowder was extremely impressive in the games I saw of his, he's only 6'6 but 235 pounds of muscle and he has Dennis Rodman like ability to jump quickly and get to the ball first. He's as high energy as they come and loves to run on offense. He also shoots pretty well, 35% from 3 the last two season for Marquette, 17.5 pts and 8.4 rebounds to go with 2 assists and 2.5 steals a game. He's also a tenacious defender.
From the local Milwaukee newspaper:
He was certainly a steal at 34.
http://www.indystar.com/article/201...ise-move-Duke-s-Miles-Plumlee-taken-26th-pick
Pacers fans are supposed to be excited at drafting Jeff Foster with a late first round pick in an extremely deep draft? Lawdy lawdy.
So, free agency kicks off!
Miami are looking to get Ray Allen (who was the only member of Boston's big 3 to stay on the floor to congratulate the Heat when they beat them in game 7 this year, if I remember correctly). Does that mean he's interested? Miami can only offer him the minimum mid-level salary (starting at 3 million in the first year of a 3 year deal), but at this stage of his career, does the extra 2 millions matter? Are Boston moving on on him by going for Mayo (as I heard)?
I think there is a very good chance Allen is going to Heat this year (to replace Miller may be?). Let's wait and see.
And speaking of free agency, what the hell is Howard doing?!
Miami are looking to get Ray Allen (who was the only member of Boston's big 3 to stay on the floor to congratulate the Heat when they beat them in game 7 this year, if I remember correctly). Does that mean he's interested? Miami can only offer him the minimum mid-level salary (starting at 3 million in the first year of a 3 year deal), but at this stage of his career, does the extra 2 millions matter? Are Boston moving on on him by going for Mayo (as I heard)?
I think there is a very good chance Allen is going to Heat this year (to replace Miller may be?). Let's wait and see.
And speaking of free agency, what the hell is Howard doing?!
Apparently Howard has asked to be traded to the Nets again
Howard apparently has told the Magic GM he wants to go to Brooklyn. I think Williams will stay with the Nets, although I'm hopeful the Lakers will try to sign him.
Allen at Miami would be a very good move for all parties - Ray can win another ring and Miami get one of the greatest shooters I've seen added to their roster.
I hope Nash doesn't go to the Raptors, I'd love for him to win a championship and he's not going to do that with Toronto.
Allen at Miami would be a very good move for all parties - Ray can win another ring and Miami get one of the greatest shooters I've seen added to their roster.
I hope Nash doesn't go to the Raptors, I'd love for him to win a championship and he's not going to do that with Toronto.
Howard is not only asking to be traded, he says he was "blackmailed" into taking that one-year option, and now he wishes that it's cancelled to be an unrestricted FA now. He's even considering legal action against Orlando as I heard. 
I think too Williams is staying with the Nets.
I think too Williams is staying with the Nets.
Howard apparently says that promises were made that haven't been kept and so he wants out, and even to break the 'opt-in' he signed at the end of last season for him contract extension.
Seemed a bizarre move by Howard to sign that extension, seems he'll pay for that now. He could have refused and joined the team of his choice without having to ask that team to gut itself to trade for him.
Pacers center Hibbert has been offered a max free agent deal by the Blazers and one more team according to reports. Since All-Star centers are hard to come by, I hope the Pacers sign him up. They won't be 3rd in the East next season without him. But then 3rd didn't bring the crowds back to the Conseco Fieldhouse, the money men may be wondering if winning is worth the cost.
Seemed a bizarre move by Howard to sign that extension, seems he'll pay for that now. He could have refused and joined the team of his choice without having to ask that team to gut itself to trade for him.
Pacers center Hibbert has been offered a max free agent deal by the Blazers and one more team according to reports. Since All-Star centers are hard to come by, I hope the Pacers sign him up. They won't be 3rd in the East next season without him. But then 3rd didn't bring the crowds back to the Conseco Fieldhouse, the money men may be wondering if winning is worth the cost.
Howard comes across as a megalomaniac. Also seems more concerned with being "the man" wherever he goes and wants no part in playing where a legendary big man succeeded before (i.e. Houston, LA Lakers). If I were desiring a move to New York City, I would rather push for a move to Manhattan than Brooklyn. He goes to Brooklyn and he's just looking at another .500 club as they would need to gut the team to send enough players to cover the cap rules and give Orlando talent in return, plus the draft picks.
I suspect Jay-Z has been twirping in his ear and that Russian crook probably offering some bungs (Gottleib brought this up on his radio show last week).
I suspect Jay-Z has been twirping in his ear and that Russian crook probably offering some bungs (Gottleib brought this up on his radio show last week).
I wouldn't want to join the Lakers until Kobe leaves [or learns to be a 2nd option] if I was a top player, I don't think he'll win another title. Houston isn't one of the teams in the best position either.
At least the Nets new Russian owner seems to want to put a lot of money into the team, he's been quoted as saying that he's projecting the Nets to become worth 2 or 3 times what it's worth now in the next 10 years, that's only gonna happen if they can become a winning team.
I think the Nets are trying to go the Miami route, I think people are surprised it worked so well so quickly, if you're a big market of course. Usually you have to build up a team with great pics and development, but with the luxury tax no one can afford to pay 4 top stars anyway, the only way you can afford to pay 3 is to clear out the team entirely and sign a few veterans at about 5 mil a season like Miller and Battier and then everyone else is on a minimum contract. Contracts can become burdens instead of assets when you can't sign two stars even if you wanted to unless most of your team is out of contract.
I would take less money to play football for Manchester United, but that almost never happens in the NBA, the only thing similar is that veterans will sometimes take less money to win a championship, like Battier for Miami, because of the limits on signing players under the salary cap. I think Howard just wants to go somewhere he'll make the most money, and possibly be in a top team.
If I'm not mistaken, a player's current team can always offer a bigger contract to their player than another can offer in free agency. But the endorsements and other commercial opportunities that come with being in the biggest US market would mean he'd could make more overall with Brooklyn. If they become a top team, then all the more so, I'd guess that's his plan.
And New York is a lot more fun than Orlando, once you're over 12.
At least the Nets new Russian owner seems to want to put a lot of money into the team, he's been quoted as saying that he's projecting the Nets to become worth 2 or 3 times what it's worth now in the next 10 years, that's only gonna happen if they can become a winning team.
I think the Nets are trying to go the Miami route, I think people are surprised it worked so well so quickly, if you're a big market of course. Usually you have to build up a team with great pics and development, but with the luxury tax no one can afford to pay 4 top stars anyway, the only way you can afford to pay 3 is to clear out the team entirely and sign a few veterans at about 5 mil a season like Miller and Battier and then everyone else is on a minimum contract. Contracts can become burdens instead of assets when you can't sign two stars even if you wanted to unless most of your team is out of contract.
I would take less money to play football for Manchester United, but that almost never happens in the NBA, the only thing similar is that veterans will sometimes take less money to win a championship, like Battier for Miami, because of the limits on signing players under the salary cap. I think Howard just wants to go somewhere he'll make the most money, and possibly be in a top team.
If I'm not mistaken, a player's current team can always offer a bigger contract to their player than another can offer in free agency. But the endorsements and other commercial opportunities that come with being in the biggest US market would mean he'd could make more overall with Brooklyn. If they become a top team, then all the more so, I'd guess that's his plan.
And New York is a lot more fun than Orlando, once you're over 12.
Bigger as in more money overall, because the team with the Bird rights can offer one extra year.
The Decision > The Indecision.
I'm uncertain if Howard to the Lakers would be a good move or not. Bynum has shown his talent but he acts like a child and can't be relied upon. I thought Howard would be an upgrade but his behaviour and attitude is just as bad and I'm not sure if he makes the trade he could be relied upon to sign an extension.
From the Magic perspective, I thought it at the time and it's even more obvious now but they should have dealt Howard a long time ago. They bent over backwards to keep him an extra-season and he starts behaving like a cnut before that season has even started. Poor decision trying to appease him.
From the Magic perspective, I thought it at the time and it's even more obvious now but they should have dealt Howard a long time ago. They bent over backwards to keep him an extra-season and he starts behaving like a cnut before that season has even started. Poor decision trying to appease him.
Aiy. Took them one year of futility to rebuild their entire franchise into respectability again.
Compare that to the shit job being done by Michael Jordan and the bobcats and you have to say they did very well for themselves in such a short span of time.
Quite a difficult decision the Pacers are faced with. Throwing max money at a guy like Hibbert is quite a big gamble. At the end of the day he only averaged something like 12 points and 10 rebounds a game. Not awe inspiring stuff and nowhere near max money numbers. But the fact of the matter is he is a 7 footer that can play. Those types of players are practically extinct.
I agree though that a duo of Granger and Hibbert isn't exactly going to win you a title or bring in crowds. Not very exciting but then again Indiana isn't a favorable destination for any big name free agents.
gooDevil, disagree on the commercial/endorsement part. The NBA does a great job at marketing the star players and Howard shouldn't really gain much more moving from Orlando to the Nets, perhaps if the Nets win a title with him as the main star. If he went to LAL or Chicago then I could see a slight bump in commercial earning.
Come to think of it, Chicago is the team he should push to join. Perfect setup for him. I'm sure the Magic would take Noah and probably have to take Boozer's contract as well. Rose-Howard and supporting cast would be quite tasty. But that's Rose's team and Howard has to be "the man."
As for Howard-Kobe, they certainly could win another ring together. Could perhaps get the Rockets involved. Bynum and Scola to Orlando, Howard to LAL, Gasol to Houston, draft picks exchanged, perhaps a few players to make up salary cap numbers as necessary.
Scola $9.408m and Bynum $16.1m to Orlando
Howard $19.261m and Davis $6.4m to LAL
Gasol $19.285m and Meta $7.258m to Houston
25.508to Orlando
25.761 to LAL
26.543 to Houston
Come to think of it, Chicago is the team he should push to join. Perfect setup for him. I'm sure the Magic would take Noah and probably have to take Boozer's contract as well. Rose-Howard and supporting cast would be quite tasty. But that's Rose's team and Howard has to be "the man."
As for Howard-Kobe, they certainly could win another ring together. Could perhaps get the Rockets involved. Bynum and Scola to Orlando, Howard to LAL, Gasol to Houston, draft picks exchanged, perhaps a few players to make up salary cap numbers as necessary.
Scola $9.408m and Bynum $16.1m to Orlando
Howard $19.261m and Davis $6.4m to LAL
Gasol $19.285m and Meta $7.258m to Houston
25.508to Orlando
25.761 to LAL
26.543 to Houston
I thought they could offer a few more million a year max as well, am I wrong? Or is that how it used to be?
I don't pay that close attention to NBA financial rules so I wouldn't be shocked if I've had that wrong all these years, I only know anything about it from following the LeBron resigning attempt in Cleveland.
The wikipedia article about it agrees with you.
Well, my idea was based on this seemingly wrong idea that he could make more a year signing for Orlando than Brooklyn. It seems this is no longer how it works. So the only question is whether Howard will be able to get better endorsement deals in Brooklyn than Orlando.
NYC is a great market, but LeBron had great endorsements in Cleveland and now in Miami, a 1.6 million market barely bigger than Orlando. And this marketing is world-wide, not local, so perhaps market size doesn't mean much to endorsements as long as you're winning.
A quick google search didn't find the best websites, but a random article suggests that Kobe made 53 million from basketball overall last year, James 49 million and Howard third among NBA players with 29 million. If you take out their NBA contracts, that leaves 11 million in endorsements for Howard [with 18 million from Orlando], Kobe has 28 mil in endorsements [25 mil contract] and LeBron 33 million in endorsements [16 mil contract]. As the guy in 3rd place, he's surely the most likely to become the next player to make more in endorsements than salary.
http://bloguin.com/crossoverchronic...e-he-makes-lots-of-money-lebron-does-too.html
I definitely think he'll find more exposure and success in Brooklyn rather than Orlando. I think Howard sees a chance to jump on the Brooklyn bandwagon, hoping his Russian owner intends to pull a Chelsea and spend well over the salary cap. A winning team lead by Howard in Brooklyn sounds like a great marketing opportunity, I'd expect he could make up half the distance between his and Kobe's endorsement value.
Orlando's small market will prevent them going as far over the salary cap as Brooklyn appear to be willing to go, so I think the Nets have a better chance to give Howard the platform to become a more desirable endorsement choice. If they get Derron Williams, Joe Johnson and Howard then the support will flock to them fast enough, I'd guess, Americans love a winner.
Howard hasn't helped his popularity lately with all this contract kerfuffle, but I'd be shocked if he doesn't get a respectable increase in marketing in NYC. Personally if I was Howard I'd be tired of Orlando's long streak of terrible player acquisitions and be ready for something different.
The offer from the Blazers comes to $14 mil a year, $58 mil over 4 years.
Here's a look at the top centers, last season's stats, their age and contracts:
Hibbert: 7'2", 260 lbs, 25 yrs, 12.8 pts, 8.8 re, 2.0 blk, 1.7 ast, $2.6 mil.
Jefferson: 6'10", 290 lbs, 27 yrs, 19.2 pts, 8.9 re, 1.7 blk, 2.2 ast, $16 mil.
Cousins: 6'11", 270 lbs, 21 yrs, 18.1 pts, 10.9 re, 1.6 ast, 1.2 blk, $3.6 mil.
Duncan: 6'11", 255 lbs, 36 yrs, 15.4 pts, 9.0 re, 1.5 blk, 2.3 ast, $21 mil.
Gortat: 6'11", 240 lbs, 28 yrs, 15.4 pts, 10.0 re, 1.5 blk, 0.9 ast, $6.8 mil.
Monroe: 6'11", 250 lbs, 22 yrs, 15.4 pts, 9.6 re, 0.7 blk, 2.3 ast, $3 mil.
M. Gasol: 7'1", 265 lbs, 27 yrs, 14.6 pts, 8.9 re, 1.9 blk, 3.1 ast, $13 mil.
McGee: 7'0", 252 lbs, 24 yrs, 11.9 pts, 8.8 re, 2.5 blk, 0.6 ast, $2.5 mil. [these are his stats with Washington only]
Chandler: 7'1" 240 lbs, 29 yrs, 11.3 pts, 9.9 re, 1.4 blk, 0.9 ast, $13 mil.
Frye: 6'11", 245 lbs, 29 yrs, 10.5 pts, 5.9 re, 1.1 blk, 1.4 ast, $5.6 mil.
Noah: 6'11", 232 lbs, 27 yrs, 10.2 pts, 9.8 re, 1.4 blk, 2.5 ast, $12 mil.
The league has to be loving these tiny rookie contacts, compared to the 6 year, 48 million dollar rookie contract that Kobe got as a 13th pick, or Glenn Robinson's 13 year, 100 million dollar rookie deal.
Anyway, for those who have gotten an 'adult' contract to play basketball, $14 mil doesn't seem like more than a few mil more than he's worth.
Take into account his age and I can see why Indiana would want to take the risk.
So they're offering basically what NY offered Chandler, vastly overpaid but solid defensively and certainly not a huge contract guy. Hibbert seems a good player but certainly not a huge contract type. Stupid move if Indiana match that crazy offer. Reminds me of the Tyson Chandler sweepstakes (lol). It was quite understandable why Cuban chose to not meet Chandler's demands when viewing the future. A year later and Cuban can pursue both Williams and Howard and have a friggin' Western Conference dynasty in the making.
The Nets are either giving up on the Howard saga or going for three max guys and plugging others around. They would have to trade the rest of their team and maybe some draft picks to get Howard. That would leave them with three max players and no others signed (I presume). Then you would see a flock of average/role players signing for $1-4m deals, possibly getting one or two past-their-best veterans/former stars to sign along. Miami all over. I'd be for it just to see a club able to knock Miami off their self-placed perch. They would be in salary cap and luxury tax hell for a decade, just like Miami faces in 2013/14 but the Nets owner can afford a $50-75m tax bill.
Ric Bucher brought up the possibility of the Nets owner making illegal payments to players to get them to Brooklyn. Imagine if that happens and is eventually discovered. The league would come down severely, and not just fines (won't dent his wallet) and draft picks, but I'd presume no free agency for x years, and severe cap limits. Then Stern goes missing and turns up twelve days later, dead in a frozen foods truck.
The Nets are either giving up on the Howard saga or going for three max guys and plugging others around. They would have to trade the rest of their team and maybe some draft picks to get Howard. That would leave them with three max players and no others signed (I presume). Then you would see a flock of average/role players signing for $1-4m deals, possibly getting one or two past-their-best veterans/former stars to sign along. Miami all over. I'd be for it just to see a club able to knock Miami off their self-placed perch. They would be in salary cap and luxury tax hell for a decade, just like Miami faces in 2013/14 but the Nets owner can afford a $50-75m tax bill.
Ric Bucher brought up the possibility of the Nets owner making illegal payments to players to get them to Brooklyn. Imagine if that happens and is eventually discovered. The league would come down severely, and not just fines (won't dent his wallet) and draft picks, but I'd presume no free agency for x years, and severe cap limits. Then Stern goes missing and turns up twelve days later, dead in a frozen foods truck.
I left out Marc Gasol who is perhaps more similar than any of those others:
M. Gasol: 7'1", 265 lbs, 27 yrs, 14.6 pts, 8.9 re, 1.9 blk, 3.1 ast, $13 mil.
I think Hibbert's height is worth noting, with so many centers who are 6'10" or 6'11" he's got a big advantage having 3 or 4 inches on them. He also has a big frame that can add strength but he's not the least bit slow for his size.
Defense is also a big part of it, No one is killing themselves to get Al Jefferson because defensively he isn't going to turn you into a champion. And while Hibbert isn't as defensively dominant as Noah and Chandler, he has an offensive up side better than either. He gave Miami more than they could handle at times and showed a glimpse of another level that Portland must think he's ready to play on consistently.
Plus he's the prefect age, he'll be better at the end of the contract unlike an older center. And at the end of that contract you'll have a veteran player who's used to being in the organization and all the more likely at 30 to want to sign his last big contract with the same team again.
As for the Nets, Gerald Wallace and Brook Lopez could still be traded for Howard and would be one of the better deals that Orlando could get, but the press seem to think that's the end of Howard to Brooklyn.
I wouldn't put it past Prokhorov to buy a yacht, name in Dwight's Delight and tell Howard he can borrow it whenever he wants. This is American, rules are made to be bent. Howard may show up on the board of the Mikhail Prokhorov Foundation, as the best candidate of course.
Extremely risky to give that kind of money to an average offensive player. Defense is valuable but not worth $14-15m per year, see Carlos Boozer (granted Hibbert is surely better than that waste of cap space). The Pacers should try to get Aldridge from Portland if possible. Personally would love to see Dallas get Aldridge, as it is his hometown.
Looks like the Howard-to-Nets-deal is back on. Lopez, Brooks, Humphries and draft picks.
Looks like the Howard-to-Nets-deal is back on. Lopez, Brooks, Humphries and draft picks.
Looks like the Nets aren't getting Howard anytime soon.
Broussard said the Hawks are clearing lots of cap space for summer 2013 and could end up big players in that FA class, which could include Paul, Howard, Calderon, Iguodala, Smith, Gordon, Jefferson, West, Bynum - all depending on extensions or trades from now until next June.
Could the Hawks make a run for 2-3 big names in 2013? I have heard NBA players love the city of Atlanta but is the ownership committed to spending big and paying a potential tax?
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents
Could the Hawks make a run for 2-3 big names in 2013? I have heard NBA players love the city of Atlanta but is the ownership committed to spending big and paying a potential tax?
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents
Williams is staying with the Nets, as expected. We'll have to see if Howard gets his wish and joins him in Brooklyn.
Now that Williams signed for Brooklyn and Howard signed for another season in Orlando, you have to say that letting Chandler go in the hopes they'd get either of the first two is one of the dumbest things Mark Cuban has ever done.
The Mavs might be crap next season, then good luck getting the top players interested in playing with a team that has 1 aging star.
Of course Cuban is willing to spend so they'll get something decent, but this has been a disaster for the Mavs. I just can't believe Cuban did that without a personal assurance from either Williams or Howard.
The Mavs might be crap next season, then good luck getting the top players interested in playing with a team that has 1 aging star.
Of course Cuban is willing to spend so they'll get something decent, but this has been a disaster for the Mavs. I just can't believe Cuban did that without a personal assurance from either Williams or Howard.
They just lost Jason Terry as well to Celtics. He just signed a three year $15 million deal.
Seems odd to me Terry would favor the Celts, I don't see them being the same team without Ray Allen. Does he really think that Garnett can maintain this level of play for another 3 years? I suppose if anyone can it's Garnett, but that seems to be even more dangerous than sticking with the Mavs.
They could have kept him but wanted to keep cap space available for 2 max deals, still, and will look at Chris Paul and maybe Howard again next summer.
They could have kept him but wanted to keep cap space available for 2 max deals, still, and will look at Chris Paul and maybe Howard again next summer.
It was a tough decision for the Celtics. Would you have resigned them or just let them go, cleared up some cap space and rebuild?
I would have let them go, but then you have to be impressed with how they played and the end of last season and the playoffs. And there aren't really any prospects to sign for them to want to break things down and start over. When Allen and Garnett signed their last contracts I thought there were a year too long, but here they go signing another.
It's a tough decision, I agree, I might have wanted to sign Garnett on a one year deal, Allen does seem to be losing his legs a big faster, Terry will probably provide more scoring than Allen did last season. So in the end I suppose I agree with their plan, and they can't trade Pierce whose been their his whole career.
The Celts might have to bite the bullet and let Pierce play out his career even if they'd be better off moving him on, he'll probably be on too much money to allow Boston to get another star.
It's a tough decision, I agree, I might have wanted to sign Garnett on a one year deal, Allen does seem to be losing his legs a big faster, Terry will probably provide more scoring than Allen did last season. So in the end I suppose I agree with their plan, and they can't trade Pierce whose been their his whole career.
The Celts might have to bite the bullet and let Pierce play out his career even if they'd be better off moving him on, he'll probably be on too much money to allow Boston to get another star.
I'm a bit confused by this idea that the Nets would re-sign Lopez and Humphries and trade them for Howard. If the Nets want those players, why not just sign them if they're free agents? Humphries is unrestricted, and while Lopez is restricted the Nets can't sign him if they hope to get Howard this year or next.
Again it amuses me that having a player signed is now often a liability under the new contract system, partly because you can't just give a player away, a trade has to have value come the other way, and if the player's contract is worth more than the player then you're stuck with them, or have to trade for another toxic player, like Arenas for Rashard Lewis.
The Magic are stuck with the contract of Turkoglu and his 10 million a year contract, and aren't likely to find anyone willing to take him. Apparently, since they can't find a trade of equal value, they're trying to get the Nets, or whoever, to take Turkoglu, or at least Jason Richardson, along with Howard, but the Nets don't have the contracts to send back to balance it out. There's some talk of a multi-team deal to somehow make it happen, who knows.
The Magic sure have a lot of money outlayed for some mediocre players next season:
Turkoglu: 11 mil
Reddick: 6.8
Big Baby: 6.3
J Richardson: 5.4
Duhon: 3.3
Q Richardson: 2.5
Total - 35.3 million........or the cost of LeBron [16m], Wade [15.7m] and Shane Battier [3m] with half a mil left over for a really big party.
That has to hurt.
Again it amuses me that having a player signed is now often a liability under the new contract system, partly because you can't just give a player away, a trade has to have value come the other way, and if the player's contract is worth more than the player then you're stuck with them, or have to trade for another toxic player, like Arenas for Rashard Lewis.
The Magic are stuck with the contract of Turkoglu and his 10 million a year contract, and aren't likely to find anyone willing to take him. Apparently, since they can't find a trade of equal value, they're trying to get the Nets, or whoever, to take Turkoglu, or at least Jason Richardson, along with Howard, but the Nets don't have the contracts to send back to balance it out. There's some talk of a multi-team deal to somehow make it happen, who knows.
The Magic sure have a lot of money outlayed for some mediocre players next season:
Turkoglu: 11 mil
Reddick: 6.8
Big Baby: 6.3
J Richardson: 5.4
Duhon: 3.3
Q Richardson: 2.5
Total - 35.3 million........or the cost of LeBron [16m], Wade [15.7m] and Shane Battier [3m] with half a mil left over for a really big party.
That has to hurt.
Hogwash. Hindsight is always 20/20. Chandler at $15m per season is vastly overpaid. How far did the Knicks go in 2011/12?
Cuban also didn't anticipate Nets mafia owner acquiring an $89m contract with four years remaining (voted one of the worst ever in league history), giving Wallace $40m over four years, and possibly Howard, which ultimately convinced Williams to stick around. Plus Williams gets $98m over five years, more than Dallas could offer ($75m over four years). And who knows what other bungs/perks that mafia guy is offering to these players.
There are quality PGs still available and Cuban can go for Paul next season as well. It's not like he can't find other players. Dallas is a premier destination for plenty of players so one potentially bad season won't push the Mavericks to the status of Sacramento, Milwaukee, et al. Cuban is a great owner, players around the league love the guy, and he pays very well - they won't struggle to find quality players.
Terry is past his best days and is at best a backup/role player. He'll do well with Boston though.
Your post is a typical knee-jerk reaction. They didn't sign the top FA on the market and that means his prior moves are now ridiculous? Not a chance.
What the feck are the Knicks doing trying to get Nash? He's 38! He can't play defense and is on the downside of his career. Once again Knicks management is going to feck their fans over with bad moves.
He maybe old but is still one of the best PG's in the league. He is such an intelligent player. I would take him for the Lakers in a heartbeat.
When the Knicks don't play defense at the moment a liability like Nash is not the direction they should go. The Lakers still have good defensive players that offset what Nash could bring to the court, but I doubt Buss would give Nash $10-12m per season at his current age.
I think a guy like Felton or Nelson would be good for LA. Too bad Miller isn't about ten years younger.
Who is left for the Knicks as a PG who is a terrific defender? The good defensive ones are settled already. Even Lin is not good defensively.
Knicks were 5th best for defensive efficiency last year. Chandler has improved them immensely in that regard