Nba 2010-2011

Perkins gone?! Suprised by that, he's an underrated player and the Celtics missed him in game 7 of the finals.
 
I know Celtics have lost Perkins but they have got Jeff Green who is going to be an able backup to Garnett. He is pretty good and has done better for OKC this season than the last one.
 
What do people think about Perkins in OKC? The Thunder are just behind the Lakers in the standings and with his size, surely that opens up more chances for Westbrook & Durant and gives them a better match-up against the Lakers big boys.
 
Beantown better hope Shaq holds up come May or dealing Perkins will backfire. Not sure about Krstic and they've also traded Erden while both O'Neals are injured. This seems an odd move IMO.

The Thunder have acquired Nazr Mohammed as well. They just got bigger and nastier in the post.
 
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ha_rooney said:
What do people think about Perkins in OKC? The Thunder are just behind the Lakers in the standings and with his size, surely that opens up more chances for Westbrook & Durant and gives them a better match-up against the Lakers big boys.
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Perkins in OKC just made the Thunders legitimate contenders. They lacked big men and they went out and got them. Jeff Green and Kristic won;t be much of a loss, although they'll have to be heavily relient on Durant not getting injured.
 
GOD-Rose.

Some good moves from the British legend himself too, Luol.
 
Perkins rejected a new contract within the past six months or so and will be a free agent. Perhaps Boston felt he was destined to leave and thus available for trade. They're surely bringing in another big body. Still a puzzling move. Rafa-esque from Ainge.
 
Bosh is a cheating prick. Also, Luol Deng went to Duke. If only he'd stayed another year...
 
MrMarcello said:
Perkins rejected a new contract within the past six months or so and will be a free agent. Perhaps Boston felt he was destined to leave and thus available for trade. They're surely bringing in another big body. Still a puzzling move. Rafa-esque from Ainge.
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Here's what he saw with Perkins: a 26-year-old with some miles (and multiple surgeries on his shoulders and knees) in line to make $10 million a year (a price the Celtics didn't want to pay), only they couldn't play him at crunch time because, between Rajon Rondo's fear of getting fouled and Perkins' lack of offense, that meant the Celtics were playing three-on-five offensively down the stretch. You can't win that way. That's why Glen Davis grabbed Perkins' crunch-time minutes against good teams.
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He was on too much money according to them....Bill Simmons can be a bit annoying at times, but his article on the deadline day trades is pretty good.

Bill Simmons: Who made the grade at the NBA trading deadline? - ESPN

just an excerpt relating to the Celtics and Perkins in particular
I attended Tuesday's game in Oakland and saw exactly what I expected to see: a well-rested, veteran team that knew it hadn't won there in six years and took care of business accordingly. In the first half, David Lee didn't like the way Perkins fouled him on a drive, whirled around and bumped Garnett and Perkins (standing next to each other) on his way to the line. Double technicals. I remember thinking, "Uh-oh -- no way we're losing now." Something like that happened frequently with these Celtics. They had become the modern-day version of the Bad Boy Pistons -- not the fighting, just the barking, woofing, shoving and general villainy -- with Perk and Garnett as Bill Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn. That was the team's identity, for better and worse. They knew who they were. I left Oakland thinking that we were headed for the Finals. We had "The Look," as Mike Lombardi calls it.

Less than 48 hours later, I found myself staring at an "FYI: Perk for Jeff Green" e-mail for two solid minutes. What???????? I remember drafting Perk out of high school. I remember his being fat and awkward. I remember liking his mean streak that surfaced at the strangest times. I remember those flashes of potential as Perk banged the boards with Al Jefferson. I remember thinking we could count on him after the Garnett trade and not really knowing why. I remember watching that same ugly jump hook over and over again, hoping beyond hope that it might get better. I remember winning a title with him, and I remember losing a title without him. I remember seeing him warm up before opening night, a good two hours before the game, almost as though he didn't want the team to forget that he was coming back. Like every other Celtics fan, I watched him go from nothing to something. I certainly never imagined watching Perk play for another team.

My father was more crushed than me. He's been a season-ticket holder since 1973 and still attends 25 Celtics games per season. As he explained Thursday night, "I was invested in Perkins. I sit 15 feet from their bench -- I watched him grow up. I don't think sports is always about winning and losing. We might be better, but right now, I don't care. I liked the team we had. It doesn't feel right that he's not on this team."

See, you can't truly love a team until you've suffered with it. The 2008 title team always felt like a fantasy team that had been thrown together in some sort of euphoric basketball dream that wasn't quite real. Losing Garnett in 2009 (and eventually, the Orlando series) definitely hurt; blowing the 2010 title was 100 times worse. The agony of those last two games pushed our relationship with the team to an entirely different level. I still remember seeing Perkins rolling around in pain during Game 6 -- it happened about 20 feet away from me -- then the veterans watching him get helped off, his right leg dangling in the air, the life sinking from their bodies like Apollo watching Rocky wave him back to the corner. With a healthy 2011 Garnett in that Game 7, maybe we could have survived. Banged-up 2010 Garnett couldn't get it done. The trophy was sitting there, and we couldn't take it. A crestfallen Perkins spent the summer blaming himself, busted his butt to come back … and the Celtics dumped him a month after he returned. Claiming they couldn't afford him only made it worse: The kid signed a discount extension four years ago and outperformed it. They owed him.

Selfishly, I wanted one more chance with them: Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo, Perkins, Baby and Doc, the only seven guys who mattered here. But that's the thing about sports -- "them" always seems to change when you least expect it. We traded Charlie Scott when I was in the second grade. We traded Danny Ainge when I was in college. Now Perkins. Those were the three most brutal Celtics deals of my lifetime. Each one hurt the same. Doesn't matter how old you are, where you are in your life, where you're living … there's no feeling quite like your favorite team trading someone you genuinely liked.

You might remember LeBron and Carmelo getting excoriated for stabbing their respective teams in the back. You want to know why they didn't care? Because, deep down, they know that teams don't care about players, either. They probably witnessed 20 variations of the Perkins trade during their first few years in the league. Hey, it's a business. Hey, that's just sports. Hey, trades come with the territory. Isn't loyalty a two-way street? When a team does what's best for itself, we call it smart. When a player does the same, we call him selfish. We never think about what a double standard it is.

I thought Perk deserved better than getting blindsided in Denver, then having to limp around with a sprained knee and pack his stuff with tears rolling down his face. Maybe I'm a sap. But that was our guy. Family. On the phone, my dad decided -- completely seriously -- that he would rather have lost the 2011 title with Perkins than have tried to win it without him. Why?

"Because he was truly part of our team," Dad said. "I don't want to root for laundry. I watched that guy for eight years. That should mean something. Continuity should mean something."
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Seeing Kendrick Perkins "accidentally" knocked out on his feet by a Dwight Howard was class. I remember someone saying that the elbow would have killed a normal man, and thought to myself that the only trouble with is the Perkins is a good foot and then some taller than a normie.
 
I can't remember the last time the teams went so mental with trades...and let's not forget there was another trade that fell through due to time right at the end...OJ Mayo.
 
BTV_is_neutral said:
I can't remember the last time the teams went so mental with trades...and let's not forget there was another trade that fell through due to time right at the end...OJ Mayo.
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Wait I thought he went to the Pacers for Josh McRoberts and a first round pick for the Grizzlies.
 
Love's stats are incredible, he has 46 consecutive double-doubles, unfortunately his team stinks but should get a nice draft pick next season.

MVP has to be Derrick Rose, the guy has been immense all season - but I bet James ends up with the MVP again.
 
How can a player get MVP when he joined up with an already top player and got another good player to sign on as well? They were nailed on to win 50+ games and be in the top tier of clubs. Such is what happens in this sport with top class players join up.

Should KG have won the MVP in 2008? That's basically what LeBron has done. Join a side with another class player that already featured a class player.

For my money, it's gotta be Rose. Followed by Howard and Bryant.

Even though he's a long shot, without a healthy Ginobli the Spurs aren't on their way to the best record.
 
MrMarcello said:
How can a player get MVP when he joined up with an already top player and got another good player to sign on as well? They were nailed on to win 50+ games and be in the top tier of clubs. Such is what happens in this sport with top class players join up.

Should KG have won the MVP in 2008? That's basically what LeBron has done. Join a side with another class player that already featured a class player.

For my money, it's gotta be Rose. Followed by Howard and Bryant.

Even though he's a long shot, without a healthy Ginobli the Spurs aren't on their way to the best record.
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I think Amare deserves it more than Kobe.
 
MrMarcello said:
How can a player get MVP when he joined up with an already top player and got another good player to sign on as well? They were nailed on to win 50+ games and be in the top tier of clubs. Such is what happens in this sport with top class players join up.

Should KG have won the MVP in 2008? That's basically what LeBron has done. Join a side with another class player that already featured a class player.

For my money, it's gotta be Rose. Followed by Howard and Bryant.

Even though he's a long shot, without a healthy Ginobli the Spurs aren't on their way to the best record.
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all depends how you define mvp.

valuable = so far rose.

talented, lebron probably
 
VoetbalWizard said:
all depends how you define mvp.

valuable = so far rose.

talented, lebron probably
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Well since MVP is spelled MVP, I dont think MTP correlates with it, maybe if you thought it was Most Versatile, but even then LeBron doesnt have a good enough game down low.
 
Excal said:
Heat are steadily getting exposed for the top-heavy, shallow squad they are.
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If Mike Miller does not start, they need a better point guard so D-Wade can start at the 2. They also need a good center and their back up second team is simply awful. I don't think there is enough cap space to include any more good players. Just having three star players in your team is not going to win you the title. Your bench is very important.
 
I know its a long way away but will anyone here be down to play fantasy basketball on Yahoo for next season?
 
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