Basically, if it suits you to believe it, you do, if it doesn't, you don't. What are the chances we're in for Downing?
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Basically, if it suits you to believe it, you do, if it doesn't, you don't. What are the chances we're in for Downing?
I didn't label it bs, I said I don't know why they believe it......or maybe I did? Why don't you check for me
The fact is, you don't know that. They could have sources, you don't know.
If you can't separate BS from truth, you can't take one side over the other or insist that it's one over the other. You can only keep an open mind and then wait and see.
Anyone who says (and I'm not saying this is you) this will never happen, we will never do this, we will never sign for him etc are just full of shit and don't have a clue. Only an opinion that they are trying to pass off as fact.
Oh the irony.
Nah, indiscriminately affording everything the same amount of weight isn't the sign of an open mind it's just putting yourself in a position where you're never wrong. Certain sources are less credible than others. You have to assess them accordingly.
Not at all. Basically when we're linked with Kevin Doyle by Caughtoffside you're all over it. When we're linked with anyone half decent, you ignore it. It's just embarrassing.
Of course it's an open mind, that's the definition, being receptive to different ideas. You're open to the fact that he could move, or stay.
On the contrary, discriminately affording one option with more weight than another when you have no clue but your own opinion is just putting yourself in a position where you look like a tit when you get it wrong.
Unless you work for Sky, you don't know if they have a source or not. Only an opinion which may be right but may also be wrong. So you can't state something as fact when it's nowhere near. You can only take it with a pinch of salt and be proven right or wrong.
Tabloids for example, the Mail, Mirror etc get laughed at yet they come up with true stories that people just '
' to such as the Tevez transfer request and Rooneys transfer request and then look like idiots when it turns out to be true. Just because a few come along that are made up doesn't mean all of them are, and to assume or try to scorn someone as many do here for thinking some of them might be true, is just ignorant.The Times is a sorry sack of Murdochs Shite.
The only articles linking Arsenal with decent players are ones linking your decent players with moves away from the club.
The Doyle story was funny and was trending on twitter as a million wanky Arsenal fans started melting down.
I read the Kevin Doyle story in the Telegraph.
It's embarrassing?
Any news on Christopher Samba?
God, I thought you were only a bit retarded. How wrong I was.
What was your old tagline again?
Having a tough day alastair?
spending another 60 million on top of what we have already spent? Doesn't seem very likely... i'd be surprised if we'd make one big name signing, let alone two...Yeah but being receptive to different ideas doesn't mean you have to form no opinion or assess the information in front of you until someone definitively gives you the answer. Being open-minded doesn't mean being unable to form an opinion on which is more likely in fear of being proven wrong.
But the point is you can take an opinion on which the more credible sources are, based on the person reporting it, what they're reporting, their past history, other corroborative stories elsewhere etc.
I wasn't really talking about the Downing move, just making a general point. And I haven't stated anything as fact.
Tabloids for example, the Mail, Mirror etc get laughed at yet they come up with true stories that people just '
No, of course some of them are true. Again, I haven't argued anything like that. But people who look at their past history of making up pages of bullshit every single day aren't refusing to be open-minded, they're forming an opinion based on the information available to them, which is that this paper gets more wrong than it does right, for example.
why would they mix good sources and bad ones leaving them with no credibility? To me if you pay for good sources, it's only logical you don't cut corners else why pay anyone? There are plenty of avenues to get stories and you don't even have to back them up
I remember last week the nasri, breaking story! A rumour off twitter I'd read in the morning (think it was the agreeing wages one but can't remember) and they were breaking it after 2pm...and it's all a pro city story but the guy says in a round about way near the end 'so will it be city or United'...and it was so pathetic basically.
I didn't say you couldn't, I stressed we only have opinions but my post was aimed at those who state facts i.e 'we will never sign him' 'anyone who thinks we will sign him is deluded' 'we will never ever in a million years pay those wages' etc.
Of course you can, this forms an opinion. None of my posts were aimed at opinions but those who try and pass the opinion off as fact.
I didn't say you did, I'm speaking in general like you are.
We seem to have crossed wires, I haven't accused you of anything. You've if anything argued my point further. There is a difference between having an opinion that a player won't do X Y and Z, and coming out and stating categorically that he won't. Which is what I'm talking about.
Because their job is to print newspapers. They won't ignore the true stories, they will report them. By the same token, they throw in the sensationalist ones to shift newspapers. It doesn't mean none of them are true. It means it could be true, it could be false, we just have to wait and see. People should be talking about if the move came off how it would work etc and not trying to rubbish everything that they don't any insight into.
I'm talking about SSN not the other media. What I said, at the start was basically don't believe anything you hear and I think that's a fair point. Even if some stories are true, we don't know what's true or not unless it's official. So people should stop reacting to every little titbit of news filtering through by some gimp and wait for something official.
Yeah, but by the same token don't disbelieve everything you hear. Which is also a fair point.
I was just making the above point in addition to yours. It works both ways.
Sure it works both ways but none of these journos have inside information. Not by the look of it anyway. Nothing that has happened, hasn't been predictable.
This shit is doing my nut in. I wish we'd hurry up and buy a CM so I can sit back and laugh at City and Liverpool again.
this is going nowhere this dragging on is not good for us,..... time to look for other targets...
Agreed, they just make everything up and Twitter has made everything even worse (depending on what level of muppeting people are).
So many reasons why it would drag on, so it might still be on. Just wondering if City is really involved.
Sources? Of course they do have them....look at the news of the world. They had 'extremely reliable' sources lol....and i m sure it was not the only paper....
still there are days when they do have nothing to print and they turn to lies
Not condoning NotW at all, but the answer phones of the people they were writing about probably were extremely reliable sources.
btw i wont be surprised that this nasri to city thing is just a deduction made based on the idea that we cannot sign both sneijder and nasri - assuming that we are close to signing nasri.
not to mention that nasri have the same agent as clichy....the son of former arsenal chief executive dein. Perhaps is this some sort of revenge?
not to mention that nasri have the same agent as clichy....the son of former arsenal chief executive dein. Perhaps is this some sort of revenge?
Id like to point out that ABUs would love Nasri to turn us down. that would go nicely down with shit about United not being the main club in Manchaster, fadding kingdom blah blah
My point was that they still needed much more stuff in order to fill their filthy paper....
Getting Sneijder would make those ABUs look even more stupid than usual then.
seem happy enough, but who knows....
Did you want him to cross his arms and frown?
He should be bloody happy. He's either going to:
a) get a huge new contract deal with Arsenal
b) see out the final year and get a huge signing on fee as a free transfer next year
c) get a move to a bigger club (or City) and more money.
Almost 100 pages! I hate when Saga's last forever.. Just announce that he has signed a new deal or that he is staying on for another year/leaving already!
The joy is in the journey, mi amico.
I've been keeping a close eye on the Nasri/Sneijder situation but it's just far too up and down to persist with.
The fact is that we know hardly anything so i think i'm just going to take a back seat because the media constantly changing their minds about who we're after has started to wear very, very thin.
The fact is that we know hardly anything so i think i'm just going to take a back seat because the media constantly changing their minds about who we're after has started to wear very, very thin.
Hey, I just used the smart sharpen feature on Nasri's face to see whether it uncovered any hidden signs of intent in his eyes, but look at this, I couldn't believe it!
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