Nani | Contract & Transfer talk

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I would love Nani to stay. He impressed me against Swansea on the opening game of the sesaon.

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He played pretty well.
 
sell dimaria to PSG for Verrati and Nani can stay, no reason to have two Nani's in the team although Nani's bottom form is much better than diMaria's it seems..
 
NL Max said:
If van Gaal did the same with Nani as he did with Hernandez he will be sold.
'I told Hernandez that he would be a reserve and that a move would be better for him. If he now scores a couple of goals that's not going to change my opinion.'

Its more likely that Nani was too difficult to offload with his wages when he wasn't in form, sending him as sweetener to buy Rojo was good for all involved. He's doing well for Sporting so it should be easier to sell him now.
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I think this was not a case with Nani, Probably LVG said to him there is a lot a competition and propose him to go on loan to regain form and Nani wanted that to. And it is big difference between Nani and Hernandez. Nani played a good season from start to finish, Hernandez was on the bench almoust all season. And we inserted buy clause in Hernandez loan deal which just showed that LVG doesn't rate him. We didn't do this with Nani.
 
NL Max said:
If van Gaal did the same with Nani as he did with Hernandez he will be sold.
'I told Hernandez that he would be a reserve and that a move would be better for him. If he now scores a couple of goals that's not going to change my opinion.'

Its more likely that Nani was too difficult to offload with his wages when he wasn't in form, sending him as sweetener to buy Rojo was good for all involved. He's doing well for Sporting so it should be easier to sell him now.
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He wasn't keen on Nani because he didn't have position for him in 352 he was planning to use, he said that few times. He obviously made a mistake since the 352 was far from succesful and used only for few months and we could have definitely used Nani throughout the season after the 352 experiment.

And there was other romantic factor Nani was talking about, that he was feeling home sick and similar stuff.

In general, we could have used him this season but if we are planning to sell him it's good that he was away because we can hopefully cash on him more than we could before. Knowing us and how cheap we sell our players, it will be £9 million instead of £7 though.
 
I like Depay but he has to fight with Nani for his place. Would rather sell Di Maria than let Nani go.
 
Nani and Depay alongside Rooney would be pretty good. Nani has a far better end ball then more of our wingers. It's easy to slate him over the last two years he was here, bu the was injured. He was always good for an assist and he's not someone we would have to go all out for. LVG should have another look at him in pre season
 
Nani at his best (a couple of minutes here or there) is the best player in the world, he is capable of feats of skill that nobody else can match not even Ronaldo or Messi.... shame it is so infrequent and the rest of the time his standard is too low to make it worthwhile,
If Nani could up his general game to a more consistent level, then he would be worth the risk, but it ain't going to happen at this point in his career
 
I like Nani as much as the next guy in the caf. But I can't believe people are picking him over Di Maria. You can trot out all sorts of mitigating circumstances for Nani's lacklustre showings for us down the years, how about cutting Di Maria the same slack?

Di Maria is class. One lukewarm-ish season does not change that. Only way I want to see him go is if PSG offer Verratti + cash.
 
I think Nani is a better winger. When he's in position, I can't think of too many times he put in a poor ball. I like Di Maria and he should really take a leaf out of Giggs book. If he can give us a bit of guile and creativity through the middle fantastic. The goal against Leicester was quality but he needs to get back to showing that
 
He'll go for sure, the only question is where.

He could be tought to sell though as he'll be on £100 K + per week, and has 3 years left on his deal. Juventus/Inter maybe but we'll get peanuts from them, failing that another loan maybe.
 
We should not loan him out. He's too good a player. If needs be, it would be better to P/x for what we need. I just think he's better then Young, Adnan (currently), Valencia. We're saying how good Young has been, but we judge him to a lesser standard then we did Nani. No offense to Young who's worked hard and done decent.
 
Wouldnt mind keeping Nani, think its better for him to leave and get games as he is at the age where he really needs to play but if he is happy to be a squad player it wouldnt be the worse thing. Im guessing if form is in tune with players ability it will surely Depay and Di Maria as are starting wingers and young and nani as back up wouldnt be terrible. He can still have an impact but his incosistancy is he major problem. Wingers seem to be inconsistant but Nani takes it to a next level
 
Has had his time at United, all in all did very well at United but his time has come to and end here.
 
I never understood the unquestioning faith some fans had for him.

Personally, I view him as one of the many players that were allowed to stay for too long at United and one of many I wouldn't miss if he left. He can be very, very good but his contribution over the course of a season isn't good enough and it's time for us to move on imo.When it comes to him being a squad player, I'd rather we played Januzaj tbh.
 
Zed 101 said:
Nani at his best (a couple of minutes here or there) is the best player in the world, he is capable of feats of skill that nobody else can match not even Ronaldo or Messi.... shame it is so infrequent and the rest of the time his standard is too low to make it worthwhile,
If Nani could up his general game to a more consistent level, then he would be worth the risk, but it ain't going to happen at this point in his career
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Please don't.

I like Nani and rate him fairly highly. At his best he can be devastating. His best doesn't come around nearly enough and consistency is part of being a footballer. A huge part in my opinion, part of the reason I think Ronaldo is underrated. His consistency is outstanding. 16 goals short of Raul's all time record in roughly 450 appearances less. Feck me. But that's for another thread.

Nani is or never has been close to the best in the world. He was the best winger in the league for the majority of 09/10 (I think that was the season?)

Part of Nani's inconsistencies are down to lack of faith from managers as well, imo. He plays a naturally risky game and needs the confidence to pull it off. The confidence that he won't be dropped if he makes a mistake.
 
If we're going for a fast attacking front 3 then why not take him back for one last chance? We're paying his wages either way..
 
Tyrion said:
I never understood the unquestioning faith some fans had for him.

Personally, I view him as one of the many players that were allowed to stay for too long at United and one of many I wouldn't miss if he left. He can be very, very good but his contribution over the course of a season isn't good enough and it's time for us to move on imo.When it comes to him being a squad player, I'd rather we played Januzaj tbh.
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I think that's skewed by his two injury hit seasons. We're talking about a guy still in his prime and in pre season he scored a great goal for Portugal that was disallowed. He's still a sharp player. If he had not have had those injuries (which he seems to have overcome), his stock would be higher at the club. I certainly think we'd have done better this season with a confident and fit Nani - providing we went out and actually attacked teams. More importantly is the recognition he's better then Valencia, Young and Adnan. He's better then them and he's actually younger I think the Young and Valencia. Him in rotation with Mata, Depay would be us some freshness that we're lacking.
 
Belongs to a rare breed of players who bizarrely gets more praise the longer they stay out of the team/spotlight. Struggle to see him contributing at United ever again.
 
BarstoolProphet said:
Belongs to a rare breed of players who bizarrely gets more praise the longer they stay out of the team/spotlight. Struggle to see him contributing at United ever again.
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yeah cause prior to the injuries, he was useless right? Unless we buy Bale or a Reus or God forbid Ronaldo - Nani is better then what we have IF he's fit. People can talk of consistency but he's consistantly better then Young and Valencia.
 
The biggest problem, as everyone has mentioned here is consistency.

He never seems to have a consistently good run for a few years. Therefore, keeping and playing him will always be a gamble. Will the good or bad Nani turn up? I'm not sure if there's anyone left at the club who would consider that gamble anymore. With the purchase of Depay, Young doing well and ADM being a 60M purchase, would LvG consider still gambling on him?
 
I always liked Nani as a player for us but he's obviously a goner. We have spent the season paying him to play for another team and our first signing of the summer was another right footed winger.

Juventus always used to get linked with him. Maybe he will join the ex-United reunion going on there.
 
Using the "we are pay it his wages" card is annoying. It was clearly part of the Rojo agreement, not like we just decided feck it lets just send a player away on loan and pay him for it. Anyway, the pre season argument about impressing is a bit weird. Fletcher, welbeck and young were 3 of our best players in the tour. 2 of them are long gone. Seems as though those matches gave people unrealistic expectations. Nani came in and played as a striker in some games. Hardly a surprise he didn't impress much. His only official game for us this season was Swansea and as someone already posted a video, you could see he was one of our better players in that game and tried to push us on. No reason why he couldn't get in the team ahead of Young or mata. He's brilliant at linking up with full backs and smart attacking players.
 
Striker10 said:
yeah cause prior to the injuries, he was useless right? Unless we buy Bale or a Reus or God forbid Ronaldo - Nani is better then what we have IF he's fit. People can talk of consistency but he's consistantly better then Young and Valencia.
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He wasn't useless but he certainly wasn't good enough for us either. His problem has never been his talent but his lack of consistency bar a couple of seasons. He also lack the minimum requirements in a football brain to go with his talent. Also Young might not have Nani's talent but atleast he's a solid player who is also good tactically. I would have Young over Nani 9 out of 10 times, the one time being when Nani actually decide to show up. But that doesn't mean I overjoyed with Young's performances over a season either.

So ... the only way to strengthen the a fit Nani's possible position at United is by buying Bale, Reus or C.Ronaldo? Rest my case.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
If Nani has any chance of coming back to United the signing of Depay just made it even harder for him. A lot depends on whether Van Gaal wants to give up on the back five for good, or not. If we're going to be playing with wingbacks again next season then it makes sense to hold onto Young, as he's proven he can play the position and I can't see Nani being able for that role. Ditto Valencia, on the opposite flank, albeit better at defending but worse going forwards.

If 352 is gone for good, though, I would see Nani as an upgrade on Young. In terms of what they bring in the final third, Nani would arguably be the most creative wide man on our books. If we stick with a formation where the front three can focus all their efforts on being creative, without getting too heavily involved in defending or possession football then he'd be a valuable addition to our squad next season.
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Pretty much sums it up for me too, yeah. I think the difference is though that Young and Valencia would probably be happy to be squad players whereas Nani wouldn't, and Nani always needs to be playing game in game out to hit his best form.

You'd hope after spending megabucks again this summer though that we've seen the back of 3-5-2 for good.
 
BarstoolProphet said:
He wasn't useless but he certainly wasn't good enough for us either. His problem has never been his talent but his lack of consistency bar a couple of seasons. He also lack the minimum requirements in a football brain to go with his talent. Also Young might not have Nani's talent but atleast he's a solid player who is also good tactically. I would have Young over Nani 9 out of 10 times, the one time being when Nani actually decide to show up. But that doesn't mean I overjoyed with Young's performances over a season either.

So ... the only way to strengthen the a fit Nani's possible position at United is by buying Bale, Reus or C.Ronaldo? Rest my case.
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That's your opinion. You are entitled to it. I seem to recall us wanting to keep Nani here but him wanting to go Sporting to get away from it. It's a different circumstance to that of say Hernandez. If you play well, you play. Period. In this formation, we have a place for a player like Nani. That might not be the case if we had forwards that could play together but we don't. You talk of young but young is not productive enough. That doesn't make him solid. It makes him expendable unless he wants to be a squad player.

If you are a wide man you have to get into double figures for assists and score more then 1 or 2. Young is in a position where yes he has to defend, BUT he has to create too and we've had a big problem this season with quality in the final third. Young being one of the better players, does not excuse from the fact the rest have been shite for large parts. Young has not been influential in any championship winning team. Nani has been
 
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Nani has long been my favourite player and with Carrick Di Maria Gundogan in the middle, Depay and Nani flanking Rooney, id feel a lot more confident of goals and breaking down those that park the bus
 
Striker10 said:
I think that's skewed by his two injury hit seasons. We're talking about a guy still in his prime and in pre season he scored a great goal for Portugal that was disallowed. He's still a sharp player. If he had not have had those injuries (which he seems to have overcome), his stock would be higher at the club. I certainly think we'd have done better this season with a confident and fit Nani - providing we went out and actually attacked teams. More importantly is the recognition he's better then Valencia, Young and Adnan. He's better then them and he's actually younger I think the Young and Valencia. Him in rotation with Mata, Depay would be us some freshness that we're lacking.
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I checked and apparently, Nani is 28 and both Young and Valencia are 29 which was pretty surprising to me. This mostly begs the question as to how the latter two have been here this long.

Wrt Nani, you have a point as he can be much better than the other two. I'd be open to him getting games as the back up to Depay and ADM/Mata over the other two. Me being fine with him leaving is mostly due to:

1. I don't like how plenty of fans seem to think we need him because he 'can' do something as opposed to trying to find a player who will do something. It just seems like lowering standards just because they like him. Welbeck for example had his problems and divides opinion too but we moved him on for (in Falcao and RVP this year) players so short on confidence, we were better off when they were injured because we knew he wasn't going to be a starter for us and we could do better.

2. Not wanting him to get in the way of Adnan's progress. I'd be far more willing to sit through a bad performance from Adnan, a 20 year old who's been here since he was 16 and was one of few highlights during last season, than one from Nani, a 29 year old who, imo, has always flattered to deceive.
 
Tyrion said:
2. Not wanting him to get in the way of Adnan's progress. I'd be far more willing to sit through a bad performance from Adnan, a 20 year old who's been here since he was 16 and was one of few highlights during last season, than one from Nani, a 29 year old who, imo, has always flattered to deceive.
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It boggles my mind that people say that. He was our best player for nearly two years at one point, probably the best in the PL during that period, too.

He's definitely flattered to deceive quite a lot but to say he's always done it is completely incorrect.
 
Cina said:
It boggles my mind that people say that. He was our best player for nearly two years at one point, probably the best in the PL during that period, too.

He's definitely flattered to deceive quite a lot but to say he's always done it is completely incorrect.
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Maybe @Striker10 is right and my view and memory of him is skewed by his injuries but I have never rated him so highly as to think he's our best player.
 
Raoul said:
He could return, especially if expected, Januzaj goes on loan.
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Yeah, I'd rather keep him around & loan out Januzaj, especially if we have extra games due to CL. Can't keep both him & Adnan around, as I think we'll keep ADM. I think CL brings out the best of Nani and is a carrot to use to get him to be more consistent, or at least more focused in league games in order to get PT in the CL.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was sold, but I'd like to see him back, especially with CL games looming & us a bit short of CL/international talent & experience.
 
If I was LVG I would loan Januzaj out, get rid of Di Maria to PSG and give Nani a chance. But I doubt LVG is a Nani fan like me so I expect he will be sold.
 
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