Well who knows, but let's not forget that he was effectively sold by Fergie, and that is usually definitive, until he refused to take a pay cut, and LVG, rightly so imo would rather play young Jesse Lingard, they are 2 of the best managers in the game, don't get me wrong, nani was popular at the club and had so much potential and if he was to come back and produce I would be delighted, but I would be very surprised if he ever plays for Manchester United again.
Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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I just hope he keeps his form up, we can then either keep him and hope his form sticks with us, or sell him for a decent price.
We could quite easily get £20M for him in this form.
We could quite easily get £20M for him in this form.
Just a though but if we were adamant in getting Rojo Sporting could have been in a position to make demands. If Nani going the other way was key to United getting Rojo i'm sure that Sporting would want some kind of guarantee that United doesn't just recall him after a few months, hypothetically paying Nanis wages may have been part of the fee for Rojo. There was Always a big chance that he was going to become a key player for them and as such they wouldn't want to lose him mid-season.
I do rate Lingard but have my doubts he would be able to provide more than an in form Nani. I also don't think Van Gaal has Fergie's bias on Nani. Let's see what happens.
Good point - our paying Nani's wages may have been part of the deal. But it would've been the height of irresponsibility to not insert an escape clause that allowed us to recall him under certain situations.
We bent over backwards to get Rojo in what looked like a poor deal, because LVG was desperate to get a left sided CB. Wasnt even his first choice, that was Vermaelen, but we were desperate. And then we went away from using 3 at the back...
To be fair he likes to field both a left- and right-footer in a 4-man back line too. It's not as if Rojo was only bought for the 3-5-2.
If you think that LVG wanted a 3 at the back defence from the outset, and that it had nothing to do with a lack of fit full-backs, then this would make sense. And that he then changed his mind for some reason, then, ok.
Thats why we were desperate. And its not like we havent had loads of success without a left footer
I don't understand why you'd be unhappy with the deal, Nani was going out one way or another and we got a fair price for a quality and much needed defender.
Not sure what your point is. For the record I just glanced at the thread and responded to that single point of his, no idea what the broader argument is about.
LVG at the start used Nani as a forward in pres-season and even mentioned him as one of the forward options - while in the US mentioned not having a player like ADM to play on the wings. Obviously at the start of the season we had many options for forward and Nani hadn't taken his chance - even though that's a bit unfair. If however, LVG does want to play with a good right sided winger that can come in as well - then he should be giving Nani another chance. Not many other players of his calibre out there that are gettable.
712? You realize that's the area code for western lowa?
Don't tell me you asked for a username change!
My point is that we were desperate for a left footer for the 3 at the back because pushed wider, you are clearly better off with a left footed CB there.
While in a 2 at the back we've had lots of success without a left footer like all the other clubs, so it might have been a LVG preference but we wouldnt have been in trouble if we couldnt get a left footed CB and certainly wouldnt have needed to farm out a player like Nani to make sure we got one.
The thing is Van Gaal had a preference for a left footed cb whether we were playing 2 or 3 at the back and we were farming Nani out regardless.
Nani probably wouldn't be in the form hes in if he stayed and our defence has struggled fitness wise with rojo, it would have been even more of a disaster without him.
Worst case scenario we have rojo (whos preferable to vermaelen to be fair), nani spends the full season at sporting and is sold for a decent fee at the end of the year.
Its not exactly a terrible state of affairs, is it?
Or the loan deal rejuvenates a pretty good winger and we hold on to him which would be a nice bonus.
He's our best winger and could clearly help the side but he cant play for us. Meanwhile we get an average defender.
Nani is now 28 and will have a year less on his contract in the summer. I wouldnt be surprised if the figure is lower than people are talking about currently with the above factors plus sending him out on loan shows we see him as surplus and we wont have any negotiating power, not like if he was playing in our first team
So down from 5 to 4. Less.
Sorry misread as: less than a year. My appologies.
how did he play in the last match. he was red carded in the 92nd minute though. did anyone watch him play?
Good player Nani is, would like to see him get a good run out under the new manager but thats just me, others may not agree. He's better than Young and Valencia who are getting chances still.
I'd be all for giving him another go because of his talent, but I'm not sure where he'd fit in to LVG's system.
Given the clear lack of attacking options we have on our bench I would personally bring him back if I was LVG. Even if it was just to warm the bench, There would be a game or two he could definetly influence. I'd look at probably getting rid in Summer still though.
Thread's gone a bit quiet for the last month. Do they had very few winter fixtures in Portugal or has he gone off the boil?
Nani doesn't do much in the defensive dept though, so not sure he would be better overall.
He was injured for 3/4 weeks and just made his return.
Ah. Ok. Good stuff. Shame about the timing, if Van Gaal was considering a recall.
That's a bit of an overblown myth, really. He's definitely not as defensively proficient as Valencia or Young and I'm not sure he'd be a capable wing-back in that god awful 3-5-2 system if we chose to persist with it, but he definitely does put in a shift defensively when he plays. It's not like he just trods around and doesn't track back.
Yeah he was injured for a while and when he returned he played very well. One of the best on the pitch. He got sent off in the end for taking too long to score a corner but it was just to clear his disciplinary record, so he would miss the portuguese cup round and be ready for our very important away match against Braga. Most of the rumours in the last days have been about United not wanting him back and probably selling him to Valência.
Agree. Nani's defensive duties are largely underrated. He's a very good tackler as well.
Nani has bags of talent but is rather inconsistent. He may be the kind of player who needs a long run of games to reach a consistent level. Unfortunately Manchester United is not the place to take time reaching your best.
In the Champions League and in the big games against Porto and Benfica, he has been impeccable in that aspect. In the easier matches not so much. Not sure if it's managerial instructions.
And he's already 28 years old. I think his time is up at United. Might be the best for both parties. United get some money from the transfer and he joins a decent team like Valência for example and still plays the big competitions.
28? Incredible how time flies.
I don't see him having a future here. I doubt we'd switch systems just to accommodate Nani, especially considering who'd likely be relegated to the bench if we moved to a system that used wingers.
Yeah cant see him fitting into either of our current systems,perhaps its best we move on.
I truly miss him and players like him. Would rather we sell a striker and play the likes of him in the side or someone of his ilk. Much more entertaining football in my opinion.
Same here
I do agree that we need more attackers that can beat a man. Di Maria's absence further highlighted that problem. I'd certainly like to see a few more skilful attackers like Nani going forward in the squad.
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