You didn't answer the question. Name one player in the team who passes the standard that you've set for Nani.
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You didn't answer the question. Name one player in the team who passes the standard that you've set for Nani.
everyone, is it enough? He is quite unlucky to be fair to him because he is a winger who always tends to lose ball more often than for example midfielders. Would you really want him back when he is in form now tearing apart PORTUGAL league as one of the most experienced players? He has got very little chance here to continue his career..
I don't know why people don't want Nani to return or don't see a chance for him to play a role for us. As it stands, I'd start him on this team in his current form. The problem with Nani in the past couple of years has been injuries and with that a lack of consistent playing time and thus a lack of confidence and rhythm. When he's been healthy and played regularly for us, he has delivered. He's still only 28 years old.
The feck are you talking about
Because, if he comes back and falls into his old ways nobody will offer a penny for his signature if/when we decide that his time's up. You can't claim that injuries have been the sole cause of his inconsistancies, he's been healthy for long enough periods in the last two seasons to make a mark but he's failed miserably to do so. Either he hasn't got the mentality to be a top player at Uniteds level or he's just not that good. We all know that he's got all the talent to be a player at the very top tiers of european football, but over the last two years it's looked increasingly unlikely to happen for him.
There's too much circumstance surrounding his turn to form to say that he's back or that he's now ready to perform at the level we require.
In a recent interview Carrick pointed out that the big difference between the way we play now under Van Gaal to we way we used to play under Fergie is that we're playing with much bigger margins today than we did under SAF. The emphasis now is on controlling games, while back then we used to be a risk-taking team where you were supposed to play the threatening ball and try difficult things even if they didn't come off. Nani fits in with the latter style, but there's an inherent risk in his style of playing that he's seems unable to control which I don't think LVG appreciates as much.
Nani injured
Bad news because he got injured without anybody touching him and next week they play against the chelskis I think
Yeah he got injured because of the artificial turf i think. I just hope our manager sub him out of precaution. Very worrying if we don't have him available for the Chelsea match or if misses alot of fixtures.
6 goals and 6 assists. Good going Nani. Hope the injury isn't too bad, the Lions of Portugal need you.
The rumours of him coming back in January must be true.
a sign of proper United player.Hard to understand why a Portuguese stadium has artificial turf when everybody knows about the dangers of playing on rubber turf. Wasn't because the weather so I'm guessing they want to use that as an advantage when they play home.
What am I reading here? People now want Nani back to our team and really believe that it's going to work. Seriously? You guys would welcome Anderson with open arms if he was loaned out for 6 months and had a few good games in a row...
Life goes on, deal with it. Our ex-girlfriends are ex-girlfriends for a reason, both sides need to realise that both sides will benefit from trying to set up something new.
Life goes on, deal with it. Our ex-girlfriends are ex-girlfriends for a reason, both sides need to realise that both sides will benefit from trying to set up something new.
It's like you legitimately try to live up to your tagline.
I'm not sure it's that clear cut. I've got no idea what the reality is for top-level footballers, but there's a strong lobby looking to have artificial turf sanctioned in professional football over here, and they would argue it's every bit as safe.
No, because Anderson has very rarely done anything decent for us since about 2007. Whereas, as well as patches of dodgy form and injury, Nani has also produced sustained periods of being fantastic for us. So it's not at all far-fetched to think he could do so again.
My main doubt is actually just his injury record, as he needs to play regularly to fulfil his potential. His first 3 or 4 matches after a spell out are usually pretty crap. But heh, if we got rid of players just because they were always getting injured, who would we still have in the squad?
Taglines, serious business on the Caf. They're always right...
Sustained periods? That's highly debatable.
It's debatable in the sense that, for some reason people on here have tried to debate it in the past. Fortunately out was easy to dig out his performances from 2010 - 2012 to categorically end the debate. Unless you believe that having poor periods magically makes previous good periods cease to exist.
Sustained periods. First (and okay, second too) season, and 10/11 season (until March, when Carragher killed him).
Sustained periods.
The difference between him and Anderson is that Anderson is fat and quite stupid. Anderson (before he got injured after a good start of the 11/12 season) was also said to have produced sustained periods of being fantastic for us (i.e. his first two seasons, too - he shat on Fabregas, Gerrard etc. - and the first two/three months of 11/12).
Sustained periods.
The difference between him and Anderson is that Anderson is fat and quite stupid. Anderson (before he got injured after a good start of the 11/12 season) was also said to have produced sustained periods of being fantastic for us (i.e. his first two seasons, too - he shat on Fabregas, Gerrard etc. - and the first two/three months of 11/12).
What?! It sounds like you haven't followed him at all this season, it would be stupid not to bring him back after this form he has shown. The comparison to Anderson is equally ridiculous mind, given one produced far more than the other for United, and is one of the top producing players in the champions league right now.
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Anderson had just one decent season and that's it, he's not made half of the impact that Nani has made in his United career. Given the work that LvG has done with Young, Fellaini. I'd be a tad disappointed if we sell Nani without giving him a chance to resurrect his United career. Let's be honest here, he can make our squad better and help us save around 20m pounds on some other player.
The question is will he be willing to come back and try once again? I honestly believe he'd like to move on as well. He needs to be a star, confidence is a huge problem for him, at United he's never going to be one, the squad will be rotated for sure, therefore he's not going to play as good as he has been playing for Sporting.
What?! It sounds like you haven't followed him at all this season, it would be stupid not to bring him back after this form he has shown. The comparison to Anderson is equally ridiculous mind, given one produced far more than the other for United, and is one of the top producing players in the champions league right now.
We'll see, he also needs to want to be given another chance. He'll be 29(!) next season.
I'd guess so because it's massively beneficial for himself to be a star player at United again. He might feel different about playing under Van Gaal and given we would be bringing him back from loan - I'd assume to play him - it would be very different to the bit part player he was in recent seasons, the key being not not playing him once every few games or through subs, but to give him a run of games like he is getting now. I remember posting a couple years back that it was the same with Rooney and why Fergie always insisted on playing him through bad form and even said so - some players just can't perform when they are being played every now and then, or in runs of 2-3 matches. That's not to say they can't be rotated, but we can't expect the sort of form he had through his best seasons here when he isn't played consistently and given time to build it - which for me was always the biggest problem.
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Anderson's only been decent for us his first season and that period where he was paired with Cleverley. Apart from that it's been only for 2 or 3 games then he gets injured or starts doing badly. Nowhere close to Nani.
Anderson is a pretty crap example which makes Nani's not look so bad, in truth though none of them have upheld standards good enough for this club.
Louis van Gaal made Young, Valencia, Smalling, Fellaini look good and the former two as fecking defenders, who knows what he will do with Nani.
Turn him into a defender?
I agree with this. We already have a fantastic player on our hands, who now appears in form, and we also have a top manager. They should be working together.
Winger when he needs to play 4-3-3.
Like Fergie wasn't a top manager... LVG made his decision what he was going to do with him, get rid, LVG is all about players making intelligent decisions under his specific instruction consistently, nani has shown time and again under the best manager of all time he is incapable of that at our club, he makes poor decisions on the pitch and I don't think he can handle the pressure and expectation at Manchester United, he has all the tools bar the brain, frustrating but you move on.
That's speculation on your part. We simply don't know what LvG's logic was in sending him on loan. It could've also been a way to regenerate him and bring him back once he hits form.
Whatever LVGs reasons to send him away were he makes a valid Point. There's always an element of risk with Nani that more suited the tactics that we used under SAF. LVG is much more about keeping the ball and controlling games and Nani has shown that he's prone to losing possession and making errors which could be seen as detrimental to such a style.
I wouldn't say it is speculation, it is based on what he has failed to produce for years at the club under a regime that you would have thought was suited to his skillset, it is frustrating as I said, everyone was just waiting on him to explode but it never happened. If it was a case of regenerating his confidence, LVG has stated on numerous occasions he can make players better, and he has proven that with Fellaini and Young for example, why send him out if he thought he could do the job himself?
I don't think bringing up Nani's inconsistency over the years is relevant in the now. If he's playing well and is in top form, he is our player and we should be able to utilize him in the league run. He obviously lost confidence and has regained it during the loan so it would be completely nonsensical to brush that off as if its irrelevant when its quite obvious he could help us. Van Gaal said he will give the players a chance when he arrived, so I doubt he would ignore a player who is performing well on loan.
Also, we are apparently paying his full wages, which makes him staying on loan whilst in top form all the more ridiculous. We are effectively paying Sporting for the loan.
Do we even have the option to recall him? Considering that his loan was probably a part of the deal for Rojo it might be a bit more complicated than a regular one.
Someone said the loan is for a full year, but I seriously doubt we would allow such a deal to happen without a clause to recall him, especially as we're paying for it.
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