We need a player like Nani, but not Nani
We should bring him back
We should bring him back
Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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I'd like him back personally, but in some ways I hope for him that it doesn't happen. Was never really appreciated by the fans or the managers here, despite being a good and loyal servant, never mouthing off in the press even though he rarely got a proper chance in the latter years. It's a bit tragic that we can't find a spot for one of the three most technically gifted in our squad.
Frankly, I don't understand why people are not desperate to have him back this season or next.
We only have one wide forward, Di Maria. Januzaj has been off this season. Nani will be a great addition, especially a Nani with a bunch of games and some form.
People are also talking about LvG's system and how Nani does not fit in it. Do we know LvG's formation yet? No. He has played 3-5-2 the most but still keeps saying that circumstances are making him choose that formation.
I believe that we will eventually move to a back 4 formation. That will mean us needing 4 wide attackers in the squad.
Di Maria, Nani, Januzaj and Valencia works for me.
Especially if the Nani of 09-11 is back. The probability of that is quite decent after the kind of season he is having with Sporting.
We only have one wide forward, Di Maria. Januzaj has been off this season. Nani will be a great addition, especially a Nani with a bunch of games and some form.
People are also talking about LvG's system and how Nani does not fit in it. Do we know LvG's formation yet? No. He has played 3-5-2 the most but still keeps saying that circumstances are making him choose that formation.
I believe that we will eventually move to a back 4 formation. That will mean us needing 4 wide attackers in the squad.
Di Maria, Nani, Januzaj and Valencia works for me.
Especially if the Nani of 09-11 is back. The probability of that is quite decent after the kind of season he is having with Sporting.
I like Nani as a player.
I never understood why we didn't just go with him on the right rather than Valencia at the time, he is far better player overall, and his defensive contribution for what is in effect an inside forward was massively under rated by fans and the manager.
Him and Di Maria supporting one of Rooney/falcao/ RvP would be something else.
I never understood why we didn't just go with him on the right rather than Valencia at the time, he is far better player overall, and his defensive contribution for what is in effect an inside forward was massively under rated by fans and the manager.
Him and Di Maria supporting one of Rooney/falcao/ RvP would be something else.
We'll be using 352 a lot for the foreseeable because there is no sign of the injury problems going away. We keep waiting for a full squad to be available but every time one or two players come back, another 2 or 3 limp off the pitch with an injury. 352 is going to be used a lot more because we always have a shortage of players and will continue having one until someone can put a finger on what's causing so many players to get hurt.
The ideal winger for United IMO would be a combination of Nani and Valencia. The problem is that Nani and Valencia have abilities that are in two separate bodies. Nani has the exceptional ball-handling skills and playmaking but is physically small. Valencia has the size and speed but he is extremely one-dimensional. A combination of the two would make an ideal wingback under LVG's system. Arjen Robben looks like that kind of player but I can't see that purchase ever being made.
Ashley is a combination of them both. Maybe that's why he flourished this season.
Wait, what?
Odds are LvG just doesn't rate Nani that much. Not like that's an unusual thing, an awful lot of people don't.
Plus LvG had to make quick calls on our squad and Nani didn't exactly look on fire during that brief period. LvG doesn't seem like the sort of guy who changes his mind too often either.
Plus LvG had to make quick calls on our squad and Nani didn't exactly look on fire during that brief period. LvG doesn't seem like the sort of guy who changes his mind too often either.
Didn't stop Fergie, Moyes, and LvG from letting plenty of other players take that time, though...
Not crying over it, I think his time was up before Moyes, even. It's a shame to me since I really like Nani, too.
I'd prefer to have an in form Nani back than sign Falcao. Can't see it happening though. Glad that he has had a good season for Sporting, hope he gets to a decent club. The five year deal we gave him seems really bizarre though.
Well, I think the kind of performances that he has been showing at Sporting has changed a lot of things for me. I have always been a big fan of him, I know he has the ability and potential, he was world class for almost two seasons. For me, he needed a run of games to help him gain confidence back. He is doing just that at Sporting. If he keeps going the same way for the remaining season for Sporting, I will want him in the United team as a starter or 1st back-up.
He is the most complete winger I have seen.
I am a big fan and I want him to be a part of the squad next season.
I have no strong reasons to believe that LvG has given up on him, the loan could be because LvG acknowledges the issues he is facing and what he will need. A loan seemed to be providing him that.
He is the most complete winger I have seen.
I am a big fan and I want him to be a part of the squad next season.
I have no strong reasons to believe that LvG has given up on him, the loan could be because LvG acknowledges the issues he is facing and what he will need. A loan seemed to be providing him that.
Moyes didn't get that long, to be fair, but the 5 year deal suggests he would have. I think Fergie may have reached his wit's end with Nani by the time he retired, though.
It would make sense if he keeps up his form this season for him to fill Januzaj's squad space and the latter to be sent on loan.
I have a feeling he'll be sold for c.£10m though.
I have a feeling he'll be sold for c.£10m though.
Januzaj has only started four games. No point bringing Nani back to fill that role. He'd just lose all his form again.
Moyes played Nani in a UCL game, he scored, the very next EPL game (which we didn't win) he didn't even make it off the bench. Nuff said.
If I were Nani I would leave, no point returning to a club that doesn't rate you. Plus LVG is playing players out of position so I doubt he'll get the best out of Nani.
That's the issue. The "in-form Nani" dipped in and out. One game he'd be sensational, the next he could be totally shit.
If he can actually carry his Sporting form to us, then that's awesome - but I wouldn't expect too much. Maybe the Portugese league suits him better....
Plus, I'd sign an in-form Falcao than bring back in-form Nani.
I think we can all agree on this.
Valencia is more suited to play a wing back postion in 352 formation.
Nani is more suited to play winger in a 4-3-3 postion.
Both are good as wingers in 4-4-2.
So bringing him back would make sens if Val Gall decides to switch from 352 to whatever formation.
Valencia is more suited to play a wing back postion in 352 formation.
Nani is more suited to play winger in a 4-3-3 postion.
Both are good as wingers in 4-4-2.
So bringing him back would make sens if Val Gall decides to switch from 352 to whatever formation.
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I can see him back next year for a last chance, with view to a january sale if he cant find any form. he's exactly the sort of player we need to have the depth necessary to play a 433, maybe not as a starter if we bring in a reus calibre player in the summer, but its pivotal you have 4 players to rotate for the 2 wide spots.
I refuse to believe Van Gaal is building us longterm to play 352. it completely marginalises a load of our promising younger players like luke shaw and januzaj just to shoe horn in another striker and its hardly yielding us dividend in terms of playstyle and effectiveness.
I refuse to believe Van Gaal is building us longterm to play 352. it completely marginalises a load of our promising younger players like luke shaw and januzaj just to shoe horn in another striker and its hardly yielding us dividend in terms of playstyle and effectiveness.
I think particularly if Januzaj was in form and also if our injury problem lessened we'd be seeing a 4-3-3 a lot more to be honest.
I don't think so. We've got plenty of great attacking players. We're playing three at the back because that's LVG's response to our defensive injury crisis. The attacking formations are being dictated by the defensive problems.
Januzaj cannot be either in or out of form based on 4 starts. You have to actually be playing to be either.
I mentioned the injury crises, which I agree is a key problem. I think we probably all agree that the preferred formation isn't the 3-5-2 but it's a balance in order to concede less. I think we'd be seeing various other formations if (at least 3 of) Rafael, Smalling, Jones & Shaw were available more often, not least a 4-4-2 diamond and a 4-3-3.
However we aren't very likely to explore any options that involve two wide men, simply because we don't have two wide men who are in good form. If Di Maria continues his pre-season form and Januzaj looked like the player he did last season I'd suggest that would implore Van Gaal into using a 4-3-3 (or standard 4-4-2), which he is known for using elsewhere.
Obviously other factors come into play, such as having two highly paid strikers in RVP and Falcao.
Nani is certainly the type of player we're missing. He was a very good crosser of the ball and he had a bit of imagination. It's a shame we don't have him currently available to us as we would be far stronger if he kept himself fit. if we played three up top, someone like Nani breaking wide would be a Godsend to our strikers who are not getting the best service at the minute.
Say what?! Young still likes a crumple, swan lake collapse and is no way stronger than Nani
The way I see it, if van Gaal can get Ashley Young confident enough and playing as well as he has, then he can make Nani perform as well as he can potentially. Perhaps we will see glimpses of Nani from the 2008-2011 period again next season?
The problem with Nani was always that he couldn't play any other position than winger and we almost never used wingers this season. So, it doesn't really matter that he is much better than Valencia or Young.
It's a shame, because maybe LVG could have brought him back to him best, judging by what we saw with our other players.
It's a shame, because maybe LVG could have brought him back to him best, judging by what we saw with our other players.
I hope we'll be 4-3-3 next season
Isn't there a .gif of Nani knocking a supposedly strong Chelsea defender on his ass...?Say what?! Young still likes a crumple, swan lake collapse and is no way stronger than Nani
This x10
I can't hide it I'd love to have him back right now.
Nani and Di Maria wide with License to float around, and 1 main striker out of Rooney/RVP/Falcao.
Let the midfield be Carrick/Herrera/Blind or whatever combination we need to be solid and creative, and have the fullbacks pushed up high to create width and overlapping runs.
This formation and team could be fast, skillful but also compact and strong in possession when required.
I don't see why he is worrying so much about conceding when we can hardly score anymore either. Surely it's more important to win than draw.
Let the midfield be Carrick/Herrera/Blind or whatever combination we need to be solid and creative, and have the fullbacks pushed up high to create width and overlapping runs.
This formation and team could be fast, skillful but also compact and strong in possession when required.
I don't see why he is worrying so much about conceding when we can hardly score anymore either. Surely it's more important to win than draw.
I can't remember this.He did it to Elokobi too iirc. He's even bigger than Ivanovic.
Who was that Serbian poster who was obsessed with how tough Serbian players are? I remember him being mighty perturbed by that gif.
Probably Vuc.
We'd be so deadly with such a set up, and defensively solid too. Van Gaal surely knows this, but I don't know what he's waiting for by sticking with our current struggling set up.
Anyway does anybody have an update of Nani's performances of late? Is he even back from the injury that kept him out of the Chelsea CL game?
I'd have Mata ahead of Blind and Carrick and that would be deadly.
DDG
Rafa Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick Blind
ADM Mata Nani
Rooney
A midfield 3 of Carrick, Mata, and Blind lacks a lot of mobility and energy for me.
I'd go with one of Blind, Herrera, and Di Maria in a 4-3-3 set up like this.
------------DDG-----------
Rafael---Smalling--Jones---Shaw
-----------Blind----------------
----Herrera-------Di Maria------
--Mata-----------------Nani---
---------Rooney/RVP----------
Mata cuts in onto his left, and Nani can provide width or cut in as well when needed.
Nani at his best was an absolute joy to watch. Shame it was so infrequent and sporadic.
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