Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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I wonder if we can recall him....
He's scored quite a fair bit for them hasn't he? It would just be great if we had prime Nani right now 
-- Herrera - Blind
Nani - Rooney - Di Maria
------- Falcao
-- Herrera - Blind
Nani - Rooney - Di Maria
------- Falcao
His best attribute by far is his long-range shooting, on either foot.
Yeah, he's Darron Gibson with a left foot...
He's scored quite a fair bit for them hasn't he? It would just be great if we had prime Nani right now
-- Herrera - Blind
Nani - Rooney - Di Maria
------- Falcao
You'd move Di Maria out of his best position?
He was always going to do well and score a fair few when given a consistent run in a side. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest, as the same happened when he was given a consistent run here.
Playing as expected, excellent player when confidence is high.
Was a really flukey, not very impressive goal. Didn't watch the game. Did he play well overall?
Yes he did. It has been a pattern. Always playing well. He just struggled in his first game against Arouca. Tonight he was very good in possession and defensive work (since we were down to 10 early in the game). He has been our best player, specially in the big games. His Champions League campaign has been very good so far.
Not sure why anyone is surprised at his recent performances. He is extremely skillful. He just needed a proper work environment.
Exactly, but you'll never convert the haters
He is such a confidence player. Thriving in an environment where is wanted.
Unfortunately "the proper environment" isn't Manchester United. No matter how good he looks at Sporting most of us aren't going to forget how ordinary he ultimately proved to be while he was here.
I don't think there's anything he could do at Sporting to convince me we should keep him for longer than it takes to get a semi-decent fee.
I don't think there's anything he could do at Sporting to convince me we should keep him for longer than it takes to get a semi-decent fee.
he never proved himself ordinary.
from 2010 feb till about 2012 may, he was our best attacking option. unpredictable but always creating something.
his last two seasons here were a write-off. Fergie's last one because of contract issues but even then when Fergie really wanted to win like the match against Real he turned to Nani. While no one was any good under Moyes.
Unfortunately, the British and Irish in general find it difficult to appreciate talent unless it is blatantly obvious (it results in absurd number of goals). So no wonder you think he proved to be ordinary.
Big question if he finds that at United. Here, he's not the key player that is guaranteed a start in every game
Don't make such a sweeping statement. I'm Irish and I think Nani's talent is brilliant. Maybe he lacks consistency and game time, but I still think he's a good player. I imagine a few Englishmen would feel the same way.
So true, I can't look past gingers myself, or at least really pale looking feckers, just doesn't sit well for me. Nani lacks the gung-go Cork accent of an O'Shea or Keane which makes him inferior in every aspect. I'll not be fooled by his trickery and tomfoolery on the pitch, no sirree. The boy needs a fair auld slap on the back o' the noggin, toughen him up. Wipe out that flair from his game and throw in some good old fashion graft and c*ntishness and bejaysus we'll have a fair auld player on the hands then though so we will.
Get out of here with your reductive, race based narrative. You absolute dinosaur.
Talk like that is so ridiculous it is painful to read. Reads like a post Slobodan Milosevic would make when talking to a Croat or something. Shameful.
This is exactly the reason why he needs to go somewhere else, even if he proves that he is quality to be starter for United again. Some fans simply don't like him, and that's about it, and how can you expect him to be confident? How can he be confident when people boo him whenever he chooses the wrong pass, and the same people are aplauding Valencia when he smacks the ball in defenders legs.
You can't forget how ordinary he looked in past two seasons, but it's OK that over half of our squad looked ordinary in that period but they still got a chance unlike him who was benched quite often for clearly inferior players.
I just hope he'll find himself good club next season because I think he is done here, for his own good.
I appreciated his talent plenty, he was one of the more talented players in our squad. It was his lack of development I didn't like.
Despite his rather spectacular talent he was still an ordinary winger, not really good enough for a starting spot in a top side. If he really was the brilliant player some here seem to think he is then we wouldn't have had to send him to Sporting to drum up interest in him. Notice that the top European clubs are unwilling to write-off his last two years in the same way you are. Guess they're run by ignorant Brits/Paddys too then?
but its true, just because it comes across as racist doesn't make it false.
does saying that the Spanish in general value technique more than the English, make one a racist. it is just a statment of fact.
oh and by the British is nationality not a race anyway.
Sajeev should be given an apt tagline for making such a retarded sweeping statement. Being Irish or British has no correlation on what someone would think of a player.
I think Nani is fantastic but a form based player. He needs to play week in week out. Here he's got competition for his spot so he'll need to really show it on the pitch if he comes back.
I think Nani is fantastic but a form based player. He needs to play week in week out. Here he's got competition for his spot so he'll need to really show it on the pitch if he comes back.
I don't think I particularly dislike Nani and I certainly don't applaud Valencia's awful performances either. It is perfectly possible to think both Nani and Valencia are ordinary players you know, I don't get why Valencia gets thrown at me whenever I point out Nani's flaws, it's not an either/or scenario.
Agree with your point generally though. Even if I was one of Nani's biggest fans I'd still think he should move away permanently for his own sake. He won't ever be able to perform to his best at a club that has already lost confidence in him to this extent.
And you know this how? There was plenty of reported interest by Juventus. Even confirmed by their director of football. Might have been a financial issue.
British and Irish people don't 'appreciate talent' is true?
Fool.
Terrible straw-man.
You used a perceive lacking of intelligence or inference of an individual based on their heritage in an argument to justify a point. That's poor form, don't do it.
I hope Nani uses this time to gain his confidence again because I would much rather have him in our squad over Valencia or Young.
If you were talking for media then maybe you may have a point, considering how biased are English journos when it comes to everything non-British. If you're talking for fans on general, then you are making an incredibly stupid generalization. Which doesn't hold any truth.It's utter horseshit, is what it is.
A lot of fans are stupid enough to believe everything they read in the papers or hear from these pundits, so to a certain extent it is true. Go in the pub for a chat with the "lads" and they come out with the same cliché driven nonsense you hear every week on soccer saturday.
As a portuguese person i don´t agree with it. Regarding the first steps of Ronaldo, United british fans (bar the yong and lernin guy) were more supportive than portuguese people (much more impatient).
Okay then. As far as I can possibly tell, the top European clubs are unwilling to write off the last two years, based on the fact that nobody signed this prodigious when he was clearly available for a low price.
I'd have thought that if the rest of Europe rated Nani as highly as Sajeev seems to then someone would have paid the relatively low fee it would have taken to land him.
Also, didn't I see you agree with a poster who said this loan deal was a shop window? Think you pointed out how many scouts were at Sporting's games? Kinda backs up the point I was making...
I didn't necesarily throw Valencia directly at you(sorry if it sounded like that), but at fans who dislike Nani in general, because same crowd is applauding Valencia for his awful performances even though he is given all the time in the world to get his form back in these past two years, while same crowd is booing and criticiseing Nani whenever he started a home game.
Nani deal to Sporting came because of special circunstancies. If it wasn´t for the Sporting vs Doyen Rojo mess he wouldn´t be here. First loan approach by Sporting (outside the Rojo deal) was rejected by Nani. If it wasn´t for the Rojo deal, i think (only speculation of course) United would have loaned him to a bigger european club with more financial power (that could contribute to pay his wage)
I didn´t back your point, it was just a constatation of a fact. I considered the loan a shop window because we don´t have financial power to pay a fee or pay his wages in the future. It´s pretty obvious. Since we aren´t paying wages or loan fee, it's obvious that there are only two possibilities for United to get some rentabilization from the deal.. Get a decent fee after a good season fron Nani or rehabilitate his United career when he gets his confidence back after a successful season at Sporting. We will find out in the end of the seaon what Van Gaal thinks. One thing is "certain" he won´t stay with us unfortunately. We can´t afford him and his succesful season (great form in the Champions League with 2 goals) will enable him to go to a bigger club.
Ha, sorry, didn't mean for that to sound accusatory, it was more a turn of phrase. My point was that not rating Nani doesn't automatically mean I wouldn't want Valencia and Young gone too, or even that I don't rate him more than either of them. It's weird that it so often seems to come down to Nani v Valencia when it's perfectly reasonable to think neither are good enough.
Happy to see him doing well. Definitively a confidence player and whilst his goal last night was a bit scrappy I have noticed he has been contributing a lot since joining Sporting from what I have read.
I'd probably agree with that (bar the fact that Valencia unfortunately seems to be our cover at RB right now) but that's very faint praise. I'd rather have Cleverley in our squad than Anderson but that doesn't mean we can't do better than both of them.
Fair point, the Rojo deal probably did ensure that Nani went to Sporting rather than a bigger club.
Still though, my point stands. If top clubs rated Nani that highly and were willing to write off his last few years (as sajeev suggested we should) then there wouldn't have been a need for him to rehabilitate himself at Sporting first.
Couldn't have said it better meself.
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