Really happy to see him doing well, he deserves it.
Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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Back from the stadium. Another amazing performance from Nani. Two assists and it could have been more if it wasn't for Montero's finishing. The first assist was sublime. He´s too good for the portuguese league. His second assist came from a perfect corner 
Yes him and João Mário (you were right about him SCP) were excellent tonight. Like i said previously, enjoy Nani's masterclass because next season we will have a real problem to replace him.
Yes him and João Mário (you were right about him SCP) were excellent tonight. Like i said previously, enjoy Nani's masterclass because next season we will have a real problem to replace him.Cheers......hope he keeps up the good form. Who knows how LvG will evaluate it.
I'm glad he's doing well and while we desperately need to replicate what Di Maria and Januzaj are capable of doing out on the left on the right that ship has sailed when it comes to Nani
I probably has, although I wouldn't count him out if he returns to his scintilating form of a couple of years ago.
Part of me wants an on form Nani back playing for us, but the other part wants him enjoying his remaining years somewhere else, because the moment he makes a mistake everyone and their grandma will be on his back with knives out. His quality is simply 
, it's a joy to see what he can do with a football.
, it's a joy to see what he can do with a football.if he recaptures his form, i have no doubt we will accommodate him next year, with the likes of Young and possibly zaha being ditched.
If he reaches closer to his potential due to this loan I'd take him back happily. He is potentially one of the best widemen in the world. His natural talent is that good. You never know, maybe a loan move to a different environment is something that elevates him and makes him stronger. On form, he's just the kind of player we'd be in the market for.
Joao Mario is a player I have rated very highly for a long while now . A few months ago had a list of Sporting CP talents to keep an eye out for and Joao Mario was top 2 on that list.. only 21 years of age but plays as if he is a veteran so calm and composed on the ball hardly puts a foot wrong fantastic vision and accuracy and is just a class act on the ball a player to keep an eye out for he is going to be big in my opinion. ( I think that list I made is somewhere in the Eric Dier thread if im not mistaken)
PS: when I made that list Sly said he wasn't sure if Joao Mario would make it ...im certain his opinion has changed now
As for Ruben Neves he has been doing well the spotlight has dropped of him now but he is 17 and should stay in Portugal for a while I think.
Who was the top onbe?
The Montero goal is superb!
There's no potential, he's 28, all the "potential" is gone, he's what you see. A one "marvelous thing" in "ten attempts" sort of player.
What you see as potential is reminiscence of the past "on form" and when "on song", he will not dish it week in week out, hence we shipped him out.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Part of me wants an on form Nani back playing for us, but the other part wants him enjoying his remaining years somewhere else, because the moment he makes a mistake everyone and their grandma will be on his back with knives out. His quality is simply
Nope, he's not quality.
Quality is doing that week in week out, doing it once in a blue moon while some of his fans keeps on making excuses after excuses.
We shipped him out for a reason, and that reason is simple : he's not dependable enough to be our wideman
Do you exist in a bubble? Time to break out of that I reckon.
I'm not saying he's suddenly going to turn into a 9/10 every week sort of player. And I definitely don't expect him to be back at United. But stranger things have happened than a player who was brilliant at 24/25 to return to that at 28. Even if he's just good he could be useful for us. Long shot of Any of that but you never know.
If he can play well consistently then I'd take him over Young. He doesn't have to be this world class winger that people were talking him up to be IMO, just better than Young and I'd take him back. The difference between his best and worst was so huge though that he was a risk to play sometimes.
Part of me wants an on form Nani back playing for us, but the other part wants him enjoying his remaining years somewhere else, because the moment he makes a mistake everyone and their grandma will be on his back with knives out. His quality is simply
This is how I feel, all things considered. He is capable of producing great performances but let's face it the probability of him coming back and not doing as well as what everyone expects is definitely higher.
There will be some other up and coming young winger we will take a punt on come next season. I think it's time to let it go.
I'm pleased he's doing well but I still think this is a shop window loan.
I'm not saying he won't, off course there is always that possibility.
But we're Manchester United. We can't let him play based on "hope" of him delivering, and not wanting to sound spoilt, we waited a good few years for that to happen, surely you have to draw the line somewhere, or we Bebe will still be playing
An optimistic view for next season:
Two wide positions, 4 players needed.
1st Choice: Di Maria
2nd Choice: Between an in form Nani and a seasoned Januzaj
4th Choice: A young talented winger. Would have loved this one to be Zaha, but does not seem probable even in an optimistic view.
Two wide positions, 4 players needed.
1st Choice: Di Maria
2nd Choice: Between an in form Nani and a seasoned Januzaj
4th Choice: A young talented winger. Would have loved this one to be Zaha, but does not seem probable even in an optimistic view.
Nani was never given a consistent run in the team to find his top form.
IF he was given the amount of games Valencia was trusted with, he would be showing this form with us. Unfortunately the fans became frustrated with him, a bit like Fellaini. Once you are tarred with a reputation it's hard to shake that off.
IF he was given the amount of games Valencia was trusted with, he would be showing this form with us. Unfortunately the fans became frustrated with him, a bit like Fellaini. Once you are tarred with a reputation it's hard to shake that off.
This loan could turn out to be an absolute master stroke by LVG. Presuming we do make it into Europe next season, I think he will be back and in the squad - no doubt about it. At his age, to get a full season in a handy league will do him the world of good and he will be back full of confidence. I think LVG will like the idea of his pace and trickery.
The formation we played yesterday would of suited him but he would have to work harder tracking back.
If Januzaj grows into the role well this season, having Nani back next season will see us well stocked on the wings - happy.
The formation we played yesterday would of suited him but he would have to work harder tracking back.
If Januzaj grows into the role well this season, having Nani back next season will see us well stocked on the wings - happy.
He's still our player. His contract goes on for at least 2 years after his loan spell is over. If he is in top form, how would it be sensible to sell a player who has succeeded at United for another winger who may or may not succeed here?
Is he being played on the right or the left at Sporting?
we gave him a good 7 years or so, he can't make it, and I don't count flashes of brilliance, bags of potentials (which none of us can measure anyway), and other sorts of top form arguments.
We decided he's not good enough, hence we loaned him. If he made it with another team that's good for him.
The point I'm trying to make is that Nani's a known quantity, and at his known quantity, he's deemed not good enough. He may suddenly become Messi in a year, and that'll make a different debate. But do you honestly believes he'll become a Messi? Or to the very least performing consistently like he did at his best year with us?
I don't think so, nor that I think he will ever gonna reach that height anymore. If he can, he should have done that in his 7 years with us.
That's wishful thinking.
At the moment our Wingers are Januzaj, Young, Valencia, and even with all that into considerations, LVG loaned him. You don't loan a 28 years old players for him to learn, he has past his learning years, what you see is what you get.
He's finished at United, unless he suddenly defies logic and become Ronaldo, but we're living in a world of reality don't we?
I'd bring him back here in January
Him and AdM on the wings is seriously gonna feck shit up
Him and AdM on the wings is seriously gonna feck shit up
I'd rather keep ADM in midfield but I would take him back. It's harsh to dismiss someone who's been plagued with injury the past two seasons. He's a quality player capable of many assists during a season. He's a good crosser of the ball and could have made a difference for us yesterday. You can have a stinker but all it takes is one moment of quality and he has that. Hopefully he can get even better for Sporting and get games/continuity under his belt
He was unhappy and the change of scenery could do him the world of good. LVG probably looked at the reality that he's played what? 7 Games in each of the last two seasons or something. Let him rebuild his confidence away from the club. It takes the pressure away from the player. If Nani does return, it will be under his own steam. He will have worked hard for it. You cannot manage every player the same way. So maybe we did what was right for the player. Only time will tell but he's better probably then all those listed.
What about having the 3rd most assists for United in the Premier League era? Or does that not count either. With Nani it's only flashes, apparently everyone else performs great week in week out, not sure how they all come out with worse stats than him in that case though considering they are more 'consistent'. One of life's great mysteries.
You also say at the end that he won't reach the height of his best form again as if he was going to he would have done it in his 7 years here. Yet those heights were in his 7 years here so that logic makes absolutely no sense
. I sort of hope he doesn't come back because it's a pain having to argue about him all the time. Just let him be good elsewhere like he is now. He's always been critiqued on a completely different scale to most other United players for some reason. Probably because everyone expected him to be another Ronaldo or something, rather than just judge him on his own merits.It seems as he is clearly the best Sporting player so far so I guess he could improve us as well when he is back.
Mate, i'd kind of disagree. Given the amount of games we were to play this season, not having Europe to contend with, LVG needed to cut the squad. I'd say gettting Nani back to Portugal to feel the love again was a better option that letting Valencia (RW and RFB positions back up) or Young (probably noone wanted him) go. I see more hope in Nani than Young or Valencia, as do many fans. I believe LVG wants him back next season but I hear your point.
What about having the 3rd most assists for United in the Premier League era? Or does that not count either. With Nani it's only flashes, apparently everyone else performs great week in week out, not sure how they all come out with worse stats than him in that case though considering they are more 'consistent'. One of life's great mysteries.
You also say at the end that he won't reach the height of his best form again as if he was going to he would have done it in his 7 years here. Yet those heights were in his 7 years here so that logic makes absolutely no sense
And im sick of having to tell myself. He's "put excuse here". Maybe next season when "put hopes and hypothetical conditions here" we'll see his full cough... Potential...
Everyone can have their moment of genious, just as oshea nutmegging figo, it's what you do week in week out that counts. Reliability and dependability is really not his forte.
I totally agree. Some fans will take the slightest drop in form as an excuse to berate him again. He will never be that one-dimensional kind of winger who's only role is to run down the wing and send crosses into the box. He is too skillful and creative for that.What about having the 3rd most assists for United in the Premier League era? Or does that not count either. With Nani it's only flashes, apparently everyone else performs great week in week out, not sure how they all come out with worse stats than him in that case though considering they are more 'consistent'. One of life's great mysteries.
You also say at the end that he won't reach the height of his best form again as if he was going to he would have done it in his 7 years here. Yet those heights were in his 7 years here so that logic makes absolutely no sense
If he does come back to play for us - he'd finally get to play down his preferred side seeing as we are now blessed with 2 very good left wide players and no one on the right. A confident Nani on this team would do really well. Against Chelsea, it was so difficult to get good service coming in from the right and more than once could have used a player like Nani who can put a ball in first time.
Hope he continues to play well and gets another shot with us.
Hope he continues to play well and gets another shot with us.
Everywhere. Kinda like a free role. He starts on the left but then constantly changes place with Carrillo and is all over the offensive midfield. He's been the best player in the portuguese league this year along with Jackson Martinez and Talisca (this one if you don´t count his performance in the big games).
He clearly is. No debate. Even Porto and Benfica fans admit it. He's too good for this league. Thank you for helping us out Van Gaal and Woody. It was a master stroke to get him in the level of the Schmeichel signing. The great dane helped us win the league after 19 years, i hope Nani can help us achieve the same.
Not 28 until November.
Still a high quality player. His time at United might well be up but he is still a class act.
You better hope you win the league this season while he is still here. How are Sporting doing so far?
Did Van Gaal actually say this or are you just making it up ?
Three points behind Benfica and two behind Porto (having played both already and without losing). Positive so far considering we changed manager (our previous one went to Mónaco) and with 1/3 of their budget. Still early stages alot can happen but i´m confident. We do need an experienced center back because we are clearly missing Rojo in defence and Maurício is struggling alot without him. But we are still in the cup after eliminating Porto away 3-1 (with an amazing performance by Nani). In the champions league we could be in better position but there's nothing we can do against russian corruption. Draw away to Maribor with a Nani goal, the expected Chelsea loss by 1-0 but with a very decent performance in the second half and 4-3 loss against Schalke away (with another Nani goal) playing 70 mins with 10 and robbed in the very end with a penalty where the ball hit our defenders head. Still on the race to qualify but i think we will probably get third place and go to the EL.
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