Nani | Contract & Transfer talk

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Shame stats aren't everything really. Anyone with half a brain in their head knows that the likes of Mata, Hazard, Silva and Ozil are far, far, far better and more effective players than Nani.

In fact all that really reinforces is how little Nani contributed over the last couple of seasons. 14 starts in two years? Yikes.

He's had a terrible time with his hamstrings in fairness. Injury has not been kind to Nani.
 
Id have him back no sweat if he was going to get a fair crack this time.

He and Depay would be great alternatives to bending over backwards to take glory boy back.

Muppetry before January nevermind the summer.



--------Falcao/vp/roo/-------
Depay/reus------------nani/januzaj
------------Mata/Draxler-------------
---Strootman/Blind/Herrera/Carrick
Shaw/Rojo/jones/smalling?/evans?Raf
----------------Dave--------------------

Really what did he did toget frozen out? as he hasproven time and time again given a run he delivers more often then not.
 
He's had a terrible time with his hamstrings in fairness. Injury has not been kind to Nani.

Fair point but a lot of Nani's defenders would say he wasn't given enough opportunity when he was fit anyway. I'd suggest that there was probably a good reason for this.
 
I agree that stats aren't everything; indeed there may well be huge flaws in such a simplistic view of creative players, especially since the assists rely so much on the quality of the strike force they played with. Personally I think Nani at his best was up there with the peak levels of those four players you mentioned. Ozil hasn't really delivered for Arsenal so far. For what it's worth I think Mata is over-rated; a good player but no better than Nani; neither contribute much defensively. Lets see what Di Maria's stats look like at the end of this season. He may blow all the others away.

By the way, we paid £37m for Mata who had stats that season for Chelsea 11(2) appearances in PL 0 goals 2 assists

The Mata situation was slightly different though, wasn't it? Mourinho obviously never rated Mata whereas SAF obviously rated Nani at the start. Something about Nani eventually convinced SAF that he wasn't worth using as much as Nani's fans would have wanted. This pattern then continued under Moyes and LvG. Think that's a bit more damning...
 
The Mata situation was slightly different though, wasn't it? Mourinho obviously never rated Mata whereas SAF obviously rated Nani at the start. Something about Nani eventually convinced SAF that he wasn't worth using as much as Nani's fans would have wanted. This pattern then continued under Moyes and LvG. Think that's a bit more damning...

He bought Kagawa, and then RVP. Probably expected to sell Rooney at the end of the season. Ended up with more players than he knew what to do with. Wanted to be fair to poor Kagawa so gave him some time on the left. Similarly, Welbeck got used as a left-winger. Basically a lot of players got messed around in that final year, including Nani. Moyes made his choices and we all know the end result.
 
Shame stats aren't everything really. Anyone with half a brain in their head knows that the likes of Mata, Hazard, Silva and Ozil are far, far, far better and more effective players than Nani.
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Better players against Nani at his best, yes but more effective? Higher stats make you more effective, whats the point of playing like a world beater if you fail to score or supply and your team loses?
 
What Nani did to Bayern Munich, the match where Rooney played with an injury and Rafael got sent off, I have not seen done by any other utd player. In fact I cant recall us ever, before or since, see us completely outplay a top European rival like that. Its a pity that Rafael got that red card Nani was really incredible in that match.
His skill on the ball is superior to Mata, Ozil etc even if his overall play is not.
He was always double marked on the wing and yet was still able to make some of the prem's best defenders look foolish by falling and stumbling over themselves. The problem he had is that he is not a run down the wing and cross it type of player.
Rooney's signature move is to pass the ball over to the right wing then run into to box to connect with an expected cross. Nani did not always provide him with that cross leaving Rooney frustrated and upset. This then led to the fans turning against him and people calling him headless.
However, no-one should ever deny the fact that Nani has incredible ball skills.
 
If he can't convince his managers that he is worth more than seven games a season then it probably is his problem. They didn't stop picking him for no reason.

With Moyes who knows what he was thinking not just regarding nani but just about everything.

As for Ferguson, the season before his last Nani scored 8 goals and got 12 assists in 24 starts and 5 sub appearances. I'm not sure what he did to annoy Ferguson in his final season but these things happen.

If you watch Louis van Gaal's matches you'll see that he doesn't use a winger at the moment therefore Nani would have been short of game time. If there are plans to move to a 4-3-3 variant then he might return.

One thing we cannot do is accuse Nani of not producing goals or assists.
 
He's had a terrible time with his hamstrings in fairness. Injury has not been kind to Nani.
This was my theory -- because otherwise why would he be behind Valencia and Young? But now we'll see how things go in Portugal -- ie, how long can he play without getting injured.
 
When on top form, the things Nani can do with the ball, there's at most 10 other players in the world who can even dream of matching it. He's that good, I still hope he gets another shot with us and play well for us.
 
When on top form, the things Nani can do with the ball, there's at most 10 other players in the world who can even dream of matching it. He's that good, I still hope he gets another shot with us and play well for us.
I don't think he will -- or really that it would even be good for him to try. The Utd fans don't like him.
 
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I don't think he will -- or really that it would even be good for him to try. The Utd fans don't like him.
He's a player that thrives when the team and manager believes in him, screw the fickle fans, they'll love him once he gets anywhere near his form in 2010.
 
Nice to see him doing well, still hope he will come back to United next season.
 
Another good goal.

If he can regain his top form I'd much rather have him than Mata or Ozil. Such a brilliant player to watch and is productive even when he's not playing particularly well much like Rooney.
 
Hopefully he does well for Sporting. It's not set in stone that his United career is over btw, he'll still have three years left on his contract after this season is finished. So much natural talent but there must be a reason as to why Ferguson, Moyes and now LvG have seemingly ditched him.
 
Hopefully he does well for Sporting. It's not set in stone that his United career is over btw, he'll still have three years left on his contract after this season is finished. So much natural talent but there must be a reason as to why Ferguson, Moyes and now LvG have seemingly ditched him.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a player relaunch his career at a club who were paying his full wage not to play for them.

We obviously tried to sell him but nobody could match his wages so we had no option. I'd be amazed if he was given another chance.
 
We've moved on otherwise, he'd still be here. Its not like he's a 19 year old kid. This move is all about putting him in the shop window.....
 
What Nani did to Bayern Munich, the match where Rooney played with an injury and Rafael got sent off, I have not seen done by any other utd player. In fact I cant recall us ever, before or since, see us completely outplay a top European rival like that. Its a pity that Rafael got that red card Nani was really incredible in that match.
His skill on the ball is superior to Mata, Ozil etc even if his overall play is not.
He was always double marked on the wing and yet was still able to make some of the prem's best defenders look foolish by falling and stumbling over themselves. The problem he had is that he is not a run down the wing and cross it type of player.
Rooney's signature move is to pass the ball over to the right wing then run into to box to connect with an expected cross. Nani did not always provide him with that cross leaving Rooney frustrated and upset. This then led to the fans turning against him and people calling him headless.
However, no-one should ever deny the fact that Nani has incredible ball skills.

Oh will you please just shut the feck up about Rooney and his nasty shouting at Nani.

I wonder what kind of fee Sporting could offer in the event he has a good season. Not much I'd imagine
 
I wonder what kind of fee Sporting could offer in the event he has a good season. Not much I'd imagine

We are thankful to United for the chance of having Nani for a year without paying wages but that should be it. Financially it´s impossible for us to afford the fee that United will rightfully demand. Then we have the wages. Again, it´s impossible for us to pay the wages Nani earns. We have a strict 1,2 million per year wage cap due to our Financial fair-play obligations. We simply can´t pay wages that surpass that cap. Finally, Nani is having a very good season (like i predicted) and if he keeps putting up the goals and the assists, he will more than likely move to either Spain or Italy. Our games are always full of scouts. There was a rumoured Arsenal interest in him but after the Welbeck deal, i doubt United will sell another player to them.
 
Really happy Nani's doing well, we all knew that he is a confidence player who needs a run of games to start performing and to be fair he'll probably never going to get this again at United. I'd have him back as a back up but it would be a waste of his talent, he just isn't a squad player type.

Also, he could fetch £15-20m easily if he continues to perform like this. We'll do well to recoup the fee we paid for him though, as we always seem to sell for peanuts.
 
I haven't followed his progress, how is he doing in terms of numbers?
 
Also, he could fetch £15-20m easily if he continues to perform like this. We'll do well to recoup the fee we paid for him though, as we always seem to sell for peanuts.

Doubt you will get that for him. Only if you sell him to a club like Valência with a billionaire backing (could happen due to Mendes link with Lim). Doubt Italian clubs could afford that fee.
 
He has 3 goals. Just one short of our top scorer Slimani.
 
What a bargain of a deal this is for Sporting. Potentially the league's best players playing on a pittance.
 
Just scored a nice goal against Porto in the cup to lead 2-1

Half time now. We lead but still a long half to go. He had to make up for it. Porto´s equalizer came from a stupid Nani ball loss. But pleased with his performance so far bar the mistake. He gives an extra edge to the team.
 
Great goal. I still see a future for Nani here, if van Gaal is to implement a traditional 4-3-3.
 
What a bargain of a deal this is for Sporting. Potentially the league's best players playing on a pittance.

For free :D Too bad it will end next year. Can see United getting a decent deal if he maintains form.
 
For free :D Too bad it will end next year. Can see United getting a decent deal if he maintains form.

He can always stay. Don't forget he'll have three years to go on his contract even after this year.
 
Good to see him doing well.
Let's hope this time next season he's doing it for us while Valencia and Young have been sold.
 
Half time now. We lead but still a long half to go. He had to make up for it. Porto´s equalizer came from a stupid Nani ball loss. But pleased with his performance so far bar the mistake. He gives an extra edge to the team.
On form on both sides of the game then :lol:
 
Great cronic about Nani after our 3-1 away win at Porto for the Cup. Gonna translate the important bits:

"What´s more impressive about Nani, isn´t his class, finishing, flair and creative ability, that few have it on world football. It wasn´t his goal or his splitting pass to Slimani. It´s the way he waits with the ball, calls all his opponents, holds, always with the confidence that all won´t be enough to stop him. Wonderful with possession. In the 48 minute, he attracts 4 Porto players and makes the ball reach the left side with his opponent totally unbalanced. Every game action puts him on another level in relation to the other players. Since Pablo Aimar (at his best level) that Portugal didn´t have such classy player. Eight years playing for Champions League wins and now playing against "training cones" in a second rate league. Not even in the most difficult pitch of them all. The "Dragon" stadium. With Nani, Sporting, without being the favourite, still a candidate to win everything."

:devil: :drool: Nani
 
Great.

Looks like Nani and Hernandez are doing well on loan. Well help us get a good fee next year.
 
He's staying fit as well then? Not as if his injuries here were down to the physical nature of the league or anything. Either way, glad to hear he's doing well.
 
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