FrankDrebin
Don't call me Shirley
Can he play on the right ?
Actually insane. Nobody (thus far) even looks close to a hit, either.Chelsea are about to spend €500m in one season.
Yeah Mudryk to me makes far more sense than some of the other targets you've been pushing hard for. Though at the same time, Nkunku is coming in the summer, so you'd think between him and Sterling that you are fine for LW. Otherwise someone is being pushed out of position to RW.
Nkunku is either a second striker (which I don't think Potter plays with) or a wide forward shaded to the left. He has never been a lone striker and he rarely plays on the right.
Sterling can play either wing but has seemed to favor the left in recent years.
Pulisic may not be there much longer but he is pretty clearly a left winger as well.
Yeah Sterling at his best for City was an off the ball guy who had great movement to get into goal scoring chances and cause havoc in the box, but he wasn't a creator or a Hazard type. He was the guy to receive the final passes (or just someone to lay it off to another guy).From what I've heard from people who have seen more of Nkunku is that he's not great on the wing and is more of a second striker. Since we've come back from the WC we've played 4atb in both matches with Mount and Havertz in sort of free roles to roam anywhere (probably where Nkunku would be), and Sterling has played on the right wing in both matches. He was actually decent against Bournemouth until James went off injured, then the whole teams level dropped.
He's been massively underwhelming though. Maybe I haven't watched enough of City in recent years but I expected him to atleast be able to dribble past defenders, he can't even seem to be able to do that now. This is the main thing we have lacked since Hazard left. Our attack is stale with no one capable of providing a bit of magic, so I can see why we'd be after players like Leao or Mudryk.
His contract is up in 2024 and there's no signs of him signing a new one (and nor should he want to or the club be offering him one). One good spell post lockdown but largely the same as the others.
6 months ago, he said he only wanted to join Bayer Leverkusen and we discussed whether €20M was too much for him
Terrific talent. Whoever signs him can consider himself lucky, I think.
Srna is their director now? FM legend.. could play LB/RB.. always signed him.
What's the issue with Chelsea here ?
Arsenal don't own him. This guy is on the market and Chelsea are throwing their hat, more precisely financial weight, into the ring. Plus, their forward options are painfully out of form or are just not up to the required consistent level they're aiming for.
Think it’s more so that Chelsea don’t actually want him, it’s more they don’t want Arsenal to have him.What's the issue with Chelsea here ?
Arsenal don't own him. This guy is on the market and Chelsea are throwing their hat, more precisely financial weight, into the ring. Plus, their forward options are painfully out of form or are just not up to the required consistent level they're aiming for.
Think it’s more so that Chelsea don’t actually want him, it’s more they don’t want Arsenal to have him.
Their scouting system, it seems, to be just go bid for whoever anyone else wants and blow them out the water as some kinda big dick competition
Many people do not believe Chelsea's interest in Mykhailo Mudryk, but it is true: Chelsea have been calling his people and Shakhtar.
They are explaining the project to the player, if he does join, there are chances for Pulisic to leave.
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I didn’t say it was fake, I said it was more Chelsea don’t want Arsenal to have him more than they actually want him - if you catch my driftRomano says we have been discussing a transfer with both him and his club.
Or they realise that their wing options are dreadful and want to add a talented youngster to bolster their options?I didn’t say it was fake, I said it was more Chelsea don’t want Arsenal to have him more than they actually want him - if you catch my drift
I hope Chelsea buys Declan Rice for 120M next. Perhaps us, Arsenal and City should register our interest in Declan first
I mean, if this is true which I'm still not convinced about (the Romano 'news' could easily be coming out of Shaktar's end which means quite an obvious ulterior motive) then i would wager it's because one of our primary targets (Rafael Leao) is by reports about to sign a new deal at his current club.Think it’s more so that Chelsea don’t actually want him, it’s more they don’t want Arsenal to have him.
Their scouting system, it seems, to be just go bid for whoever anyone else wants and blow them out the water as some kinda big dick competition
If it was that straight forward we'd have Bellingham (best mates with James) and Sancho (best mates with CHO).Rice is so obviously going to end up at Chelsea. He's welded to Mason Mount off the pitch. It'd be his wet dream to follow him around there too.
Think it’s more so that Chelsea don’t actually want him, it’s more they don’t want Arsenal to have him.
Their scouting system, it seems, to be just go bid for whoever anyone else wants and blow them out the water as some kinda big dick competition
The Rice-Chelsea link seems pretty ironclad. Would be a surprise if he ends up anywhere other than Chelsea at this point.If it was that straight forward we'd have Bellingham (best mates with James) and Sancho (best mates with CHO).
6 months ago, he said he only wanted to join Bayer Leverkusen and we discussed whether €20M was too much for him
Terrific talent. Whoever signs him can consider himself lucky, I think.
Unless Mudryk himself pushes for Arsenal and only Arsenal, I think Chelsea will land him as they're more likely to meet Shaktar's demands. Shame. I hope Arteta has other targets as we desperately need more attacking options. The Newcastle game was a perfect example - we had no creative/attacking options from the bench.
It will be funny if Chelsea end up with a mishmash of players who are assembled with no rhyme or reason beyond trying to weaken their rivals
I'm really curious where this narrative is coming from that we're seemingly after Mudryk only because Arsenal wants him too.
Since Hazard left we've been crying out for wingers who have the ability to take on opponents 1v1 and the fact we don't seem to have such players has been a major factor as to why our attacking play has become as toothless as it has.
When teams defend deep, as they often do against us, you need players who can produce a moment of magic to create some space behind the lines and it's become clear the likes of Havertz, Pulisic and Ziyech aren't capable of that and instead of taking players on they usually just recycle the ball back to the midfielders or look for an overlapping run from a full-back to pass the ball to. The latter often works when we have a top player like James bombing forward but not so much when we have to rely on the tired legs of Azpilicueta. Ideally you'd want the winger to be capable of dribbling past opponents on his own or look for a pass behind the line to the full-back or striker, depending on the situation, but now that we're crippled with limited options on how to attack it can get very predictable and easy to defend against.
Pretty much everyone who's watched us in the last few years has seen these problems with their own eyes and like to mock us about our shite and unimaginative attacking play but as soon as we try to go for a player in a different mould in hopes of getting that 'x-factor' it gets ridiculed too. The main target has been Rafael Leao of Milan but now it started to look like we're not going to be able to pull that one off so we've began focusing on other alternatives.
Chelsea is an interesting option for any player. It is a big club located in london and the club is investing a lot of money in the squad. I personally don't think Mudryk want Arsenal only. Arsenal just probably his preferred choice among the interested clubs back then. Edu is very unlikely to pay 100m euro for his service.Seems obvious that Arsenal are his first choice, guy is twerking mad for us including that interview with Zinchenko's Mrs, but Shakhtar are quite right to try an instigate an auction as they are obviously looking after their own self interests.
If Arsenal come close to what Shakhtar want them I can see them perhaps taking the players consideration in view, but if they don't and Chelsea do 'blow Arsenal out the water' then he'll join Chelsea. I certainly don't think it Arsenal or nothing for the lad.
I don't think it's this player in isolation. I think it's this player in addition to what you've bought and are intending to buy over a season.
You've had a change of ownership, a complete change of football structure, change of manager, bought several players in the summer that haven't been big hits so far, and looking to similar in the winter. You're looking to take spending to another level not seen before under Roman or the Sheikhs so far. Also some of the moves are perceived as trying to hijack moves after clubs have done some legwork to get it down the line.
There's obviously some method in what you are trying to do, but the saying method within the madness is perhaps the perception that's coming across to everyone, and that's why many mention the Boehly playing Football Manager comments, and I think that will filter in the game as well as to us fans outside.
No hard feeling as there are a lots of players available in the market. Mudryk is an interesting player but I just don't think 100m euro for him represent good value to Arsenal anymore when Gakpo cost Liverpool somewhere between £35m and £45m.If that's the case then I'm even more confused.
Of the players we've brought in I think only Cucurella was 'hijacked' after another club (City) had done some groundwork before us and now we're looking to do a similar feat with Mudryk if you guys fail to land him. Other than that the signings of Fofana, Sterling, Koulibaly, Badiashile and all the youngsters (Slonina, Chukwuemeka, Casadei, Santos, Datro Fofana) we essentially had a free run to get and there was no element of 'copying your class mates homework' to any of those deals. Same for Nkunku who will join in the summer.
We're definitely in the process of a larger squad overhaul having failed to perform in the EPL for the last 5-6 years with lots of players who are either getting old (Azpi, Silva, Kante, Jorginho) or just otherwise not all that great (strikers, Pulisic, Ziyech etc.) so a lot of money is being spent and on multiple players. The plan is obviously to spend big in the short term in hopes of being competitive again sooner rather than later.
Usually such a rebuild would be done piece by piece over longer period of time but if the money is there to be spent and the club already know the positions it needs spending on, why wait any longer than necessary? There's also an argument that with the rise of Newcastle and their Saudi money time is of the essence and we can't really afford to miss out on the top end of the table for too many years in a row while trying to rebuild the squad. If/when United and Liverpool also get new wealthy owners and start spending on what are already very decent squads, there's a very real risk of getting left behind which can be difficult to bounce back from. So yeah, if the money is ready and available it's perhaps better to go big now and then cut back on the spending when the squad is completed than do it gradually over the years.
They are not a big club. They had a brief successful period, but it's over.Chelsea is an interesting option for any player. It is a big club located in london and the club is investing a lot of money in the squad. I personally don't think Mudryk want Arsenal only. Arsenal just probably his preferred choice among the interested clubs back then. Edu is very unlikely to pay 100m euro for his service.
No hard feeling as there are a lots of players available in the market. Mudryk is an interesting player but I just don't think 100m euro for him represent good value to Arsenal anymore when Gakpo cost Liverpool somewhere between £35m and £45m.
That can't be true for any EPL club, let alone Chelsea. For Mudryk or any promising young players, it is normal to have competition for their service. For the price Shakhtar asked for, I would rather go for Zaha or Thuram. You can buy 3 quality players to improve the squad for €100m.I was merely responding to the claims that nobody in our club can identify transfer targets themselves and only go after ones who've already been targeted by rivals
If that's the case then I'm even more confused.
Of the players we've brought in I think only Cucurella was 'hijacked' after another club (City) had done some groundwork before us and now we're looking to do a similar feat with Mudryk if you guys fail to land him. Other than that the signings of Fofana, Sterling, Koulibaly, Badiashile and all the youngsters (Slonina, Chukwuemeka, Casadei, Santos, Datro Fofana) we essentially had a free run to get and there was no element of 'copying your class mates homework' to any of those deals. Same for Nkunku who will join in the summer.
You'll probably know more than me but was there not rumoured ones in the summer that you didn't get like Raphinha, Jesus and Richarlison that were being reported at the time?