Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?

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I'm sort of the same, albeit I'll start to get more excited if I see him playing a more progressive brand of football, as that's really my only concern with him. The rest will, I suspect, come if he's given time and patience to make his own way at the club.

I might not think he's the cast-iron certainty of success that some do on here but he's obviously a good manager and one that has a lot of potential, so once he's in our dugout I'll be desperate for him to succeed. I don't think acknowledging doubts based on what we've seen from him in the past is out of order, though. In fact, I can't really get my head around supporters not having some doubts, however small, based on his time at Everton.

Don't think anyone thinks he is a cast iron certainty to succeed. But more so can understand the appointment.

But nobody is a sure thing. I have proper fear of life without Fergie and now we are about to find out what that is like.
 
It was Moyes who turned assistant position down because he wanted to pursue his own managerial career.
 
I remember having this conversation with someone years ago. If it would be SAF's choice, or if someone else had a final say, he would just be consulted. I actually incline towards the latter.

I've never been more certain of anything in my life. Whoever gets the job, they have got it because SAF has decided they'll get it. Who would be better qualified to make that decision? You would be mad not to go with his suggestion.
 
At least he plays good attacking football and has plenty of European experience and trophies under his belt....

How the hell did he get the job, I seriously just can't get my head around it. The only thing he's got is the fact he stayed at Everton for 12 years, that seems to be enough to get one of the biggest jobs in football. Bizarre.
The bloke that announced his retirement today had something to do it i suppose...
 
I dont think that really matters, and I have no desire to mention names to have them picked apart by people keen to have a go at my lack of support for the appointment of Moyes.

I'll say one thing, we are constantly talked about as the biggest club in the world. Would any of our rivals for that title be quaking in their boots right now at the prospect of who is coming in to replace Ferguson?

Who did Barca appoint as a replacemwnt for Guardiola?
 
Heard someone say today that he was turned down because he was "too intense" for the assistant job. Talk about pot and kettle stuff!

No he turned down the chance to become an assistant manager. He was already a fully fledged manager at Preston unlike MacClaren who was just an assistant at Derby.
 
I will support every new manager. Moyes style is just not the way football is going currently. It's more passing, technique based. But let's see until there's an anouncement
 
I will support every new manager. Moyes style is just not the way football is going currently. It's more passing, technique based. But let's see until there's an anouncement

Bayern Munich would beg to differ. Power and pace seems to be the cornerstone of their success.
 
Bayern Munich would beg to differ. Power and pace seems to be the cornerstone of their success.

They're playing brilliant football to be fair, technique based and quick passing. They scored a shit load of amount and played well against all top teams so far
 
Eh? Bayerns passing is superb, better than ours that's for sure.

That's not saying a lot though is it? Our midfield problems are well documented. I'm just saying that technical passing styles are not the be all and end all. Bayern can be very direct at times and don't tend to pass teams to death a la Barca. Moyes will obviously want his players to be able to pass a ball well anyway, that goes without saying.
 
Bill Kenwright says deal for David Moyes to go to United is not done.
 
The problem with finding a manager with experience winning trophies is that SAF has been winning most of them for a long time.

Wenger, Mourinho, Mancini, Roman Abramovich's latest pet ...

And if you go abroad to find someone experienced at winning trophies, then they will lack experience of the Premiership and of the culture and traditions in England.

No one checks all the boxes, no one can fill the gaffer's shoes.

I think Ancelotti ticks pretty much every box.

Pros:
- Champions League experience (has won it twice)
- Experience in England (won the double)
- Bonus trophies (Serie A, Coppa Italia, Super Cup etc.)
- Not necessarily a short term manager (stayed at Milan for 8 years)
- Doesn't act like a clown or create a circus around himself.

Cons:
- ??????
 
What is it about German sides that people are seemingly blind to their flair?

It's strange. Partly it might be because post-Barca people don't recognise flair or attractive football if its not part of a specialised Guardiola/Klopp-esque tactical system. Bayern are strategically incredibly flexible, so people who don't watch them much assume that they are also dour and functional.
 
I think Ancelotti ticks pretty much every box.

Pros:
- Champions League experience (has won it twice)
- Experience in England (won the double)
- Bonus trophies (Serie A, Coppa Italia, Super Cup etc.)
- Not necessarily a short term manager (stayed at Milan for 8 years)
- Doesn't act like a clown or create a circus around himself.

Cons:
- ??????

Cons = 'the eyebrow'
 
What is it about German sides that people are seemingly blind to their flair?

I'm really not blind to their flair but they have some of the biggest, strongest players in Europe in that side, just look at their strikers - Gomez and Mandzukic, they can play many styles of football that's what makes them so good; they can pass, be direct and counter attack all very effectively. I'm just making the point that there isn't a defined style of football that any club needs to follow.
 
I don't watch them much - I think I've seen them twice this season. But their football's beautiful. They're a bit like the late nineties/early noughties United side.

I'm really not blind to their flair, but they have some of the biggest, strongest players in Europe in that side, just look at their strikers - Gomez and Mandzukic, they can play many styles of football that's what makes them so good; they can pass, be direct and counter attack all very effectively. I'm just making the point that there isn't a defined style of football that any club needs to follow.

Fair enough!
 
I think Ancelotti ticks pretty much every box.

Pros:
- Champions League experience (has won it twice)
- Experience in England (won the double)
- Bonus trophies (Serie A, Coppa Italia, Super Cup etc.)
- Not necessarily a short term manager (stayed at Milan for 8 years)
- Doesn't act like a clown or create a circus around himself.

Cons:
- ??????

Yes, plus - He built European football empire in AC Milan.
 
One of the biggest clubs in the world. Did the appointment of him make the rivals scared?

Does it matter whether we scare our rivals or not with our managerial appointments?

Look man, if Moyes excites you then enjoy yourself. I ain't picking and digging at anyone happy about this. Perhaps you should give it a try.
 
Been saying for years that Moyes is the logical choice.

He's a tough character and should be able to handle the pressure.
He's quite clearly SAF's choice. Do we not trust SAF now? Is this just a Scottish love-in?
He turned Everton from relegation fodder into an actual serious prospect. Maybe they didn't win any trophies, but there have always been 4 or 5 teams teams above them who have had infinitely superior resources.

For all those banging on about "Moyes's style", do you honestly think he'll come to United and turn us into a scrappy long-ball team? He'll have actual quality at his disposal.

It'll be tough, but I'd much rather see Moyes being given a chance than Mourinho dragging our name through the mud and then fecking off after 3 or 4 years. And Klopp is a no-go. Great manager for Dortmund, but he's not leaving and has never experienced PL football.
 
Look man, if Moyes excites you then enjoy yourself. I ain't picking and digging at anyone happy about this. Perhaps you should give it a try.

As I said in a different thread, I'd be happy with any one from Moyes, Wenger, Mourinho, Solskjær, Klopp and Blanc - for different reasons, they all have their pros and cons.
 
Hasn't Klopp publicly stated that he's staying with Dortmund for at least another season? Or am I imagining things? I hope not, because I'll be much more gutted if it seems like we could have got him and just didn't. He's absolutely perfect to replace Fergie.

He stated time and time again that he will at least fulfill his until 2016 lasting contract.

And please don´t give me the "everybody in football is a lying bastard" line and look at his history as a coach.

In his time at Mainz he had at least half a dozen confirmed offers by stronger German sides and still stayed for seven years until his last contract ran out.

At Dortmund he had at least offers from both Bayern Munich and Chelsea and also possibly the German national team and refused all of them.

Jürgen Klopp is more than just talk. He has proven his words multiple times. He was not available, period.
 
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