I can see that, it's a decent list of names.
Our Chosen One would probably be bottom of my list out of those you mentioned, but hey ho.
Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?
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I can see that, it's a decent list of names.
Our Chosen One would probably be bottom of my list out of those you mentioned, but hey ho.
Wenger isn't a bad shout. Hasn't won anything recently but has done enough in the past to be a safer bet than Moyes imo. Would certainly play attractive football (for those who care about that). Stable manager with PL experience.
He's above Wenger for me. If Fergie had gone back in 02 I'd have gladly taken Wenger, but his time has passed.
Ole? No way. You need a bit of experience to manage Man United.
Moyes was most likely chosen by Sir Alex, the board just went along with it. Gill did say they would ask Fergies advice, and i think he's probably told them his choice a whilst back.
Maybe it's uninspired, but Ferguson, possibly the greatest manager of all time with more knowledge of football than anyone, has most likely hand picked Moyes.
Even if he hasn't how many times has he come out and praised Moyes work at Everton?
In Sir Alex, i still trust.
Maybe it's uninspired, but Ferguson, possibly the greatest manager of all time with more knowledge of football than anyone, has most likely hand picked Moyes.
Even if he hasn't how many times has he come out and praised Moyes work at Everton?
In Sir Alex, i still trust.
Guardiola would have been perfect for us wouldn't he?...
not sure if serious. Ready-made team, awful transfer history and quit due to 'intense pressure' (of constantly winning with one of the best teams of all time?!)
Moyes plays the way he does due to the material at hand. Nothing says he will adopt the same style of play with a different set of players.
No, he has a contract with Bayern Munich
Nothing says he won't either. There, I just answered a pointless statement with an equally pointless one.
I don't get this Guardiola love-in at all.
He just rode his push-button horse, and even then he found it all too stressful & got the vapours & threw in the towel.
Yes, hence the 'would have' part...
Except mine makes sense. You don't play tiki-taka with hard-working buffoons.
We've had years of success under a dour Scotsman and now people want continued success under and exciting foreigner and the new dour Scotsman is 'boring'.
I'm starting to think Phelan is the mastermind behind the club and Ferguson and Moyes are just his puppets.
Just realised this thread was started in 2005!
What a fecking call!
What a fecking call!
Everton don't even play bad football, you would think we had hired Pulis the way some are banging on.
There's a football focus SAF special on BBC at 11.35 (4 mins)
My interpretation of how they play was that it's quite similar to us (reliance on the wingers and overlapping fullbacks). I think the first match of this season has jaded peoples memory.
Just realised this thread was started in 2005!
What a fecking call!
How about this gem from the 1st page then?
The thing is with Everton, against the lower half teams, they play some brilliant football. It's only when they come to play against the top 4/5 they start to play hoofball to Fellani. But then, that's because he has never really had any Strikers.
Pretty sure he'll have a striker or two to work with here.
I'm looking forward to seeing what happens. It's evolution at the club and Fergie has left a wonderful set up behind him. The future is positive.
It was on earlier here (10.35) and quite good too.
When you see the section about what SAF did at Aberdeen before he came to United & then you think about what Moyes has done, it doesn't half make you think
What would you lot think if Moyes made us finish outside the top 2 and Everton got into the Champions League places?
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised.
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised.
Exactly. They play decent football and use Fellaini as a long ball option only because he is freakishly good at trapping the ball or flicking it on. They also have two of the most attack minded full backs in the league.
Youth and alcohol...
It was on earlier here (10.35) and quite good too.
When you see the section about what SAF did at Aberdeen before he came to United & then you think about what Moyes has done, it doesn't half make you think
Yep, some people keep saying "Ferguson wasn't the fans' first choice either", like he hadn't achieved anything before he came to us. His time at Aberdeen was remarkable.
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Moyes won't come in and have United playing a similar brand of football to what he played at Everton. Your statement makes no more sense than mine. You've no idea what style of football he plans to play.
Who said that? I read almost every post here today and I didn't see that.
Why didn't he buy one?
They were almost bankrupt in the mid 2000s. Not sure how that's better.
No way will Everton get into the Champions League places.
Gill: "Clearly he has to have the requisite football experience, both in terms of domestic and European experience, so I think it’s a small pool but we’ll move forward."
David Gill in being full of shit shocker
Obviously United will remain a massive draw but I worry that Moyes won't be able to attract top players to the club. Certainly not yet anyway and that's a worry if Rooney really is leaving.
Not to mention, when he took over Dortmund, they were 13th in the league with the worst defense of the Bundesliga.
No matter what their history is, they were a mid table team in anything but fan support at that time, plain and simple.
This is a disaster.
My thoughts exactly. feck this fecking feck.
I've read a few posts stating that actually. You must have missed them mate.
When you break it all down, Moyes begins to make more and more sense. I'm not saying he would have been my first choice, but I can see the logic in Moyes being the first choice.
No candidate would have been perfect for the job, so it's a question of what tradeoffs are you willing to make. Moyes does not have the pedigree of Jose and it remains to be seen whether he can attract the big names we all want to see come to OT every summer, but he has produced an attractive football product at Everton on a fairly modest budget. Perhaps equally important, there's something old school about him, a British manager who doesn't pose for the cameras or make excuses for poor performance or in any way elevates himself above the club. He calls it like he sees it. He's a Scot who probably has no problem eating haggis, emptying his own trash can and wouldn't dream of framing his own portait and hanging it in the living room of his mansion.
Give the man a chance. We're taking a risk by going with him, no doubt about it, but aren't all great things in life accomplished by taking risks?
No candidate would have been perfect for the job, so it's a question of what tradeoffs are you willing to make. Moyes does not have the pedigree of Jose and it remains to be seen whether he can attract the big names we all want to see come to OT every summer, but he has produced an attractive football product at Everton on a fairly modest budget. Perhaps equally important, there's something old school about him, a British manager who doesn't pose for the cameras or make excuses for poor performance or in any way elevates himself above the club. He calls it like he sees it. He's a Scot who probably has no problem eating haggis, emptying his own trash can and wouldn't dream of framing his own portait and hanging it in the living room of his mansion.
Give the man a chance. We're taking a risk by going with him, no doubt about it, but aren't all great things in life accomplished by taking risks?
If Dortmund were competing in Germany with more than just one powerhouse I doubt they'd have become the force they've become, Everton are competing with clubs like ourselves, Arsenal and Liverpool and then the two nothing clubs with sugar daddys. It's not the same as coming up against just Bayern and a few yoyo teams like Bremen, Leverkusen and Schalke.
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