Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?
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Yeah, if they wanted Mourinho they would pay the cash. This is more important than a Van Persie for example.
He won't bring many I wouldn't expect. I think that the more pertinent question is if he will make Phelan wear trousers.
I think that we will see Baines playing for us next season though.
I can't see him bringing more than one or two and Steve Round is never going to be assistant manager. I'd be shocked if we even considered bringing them both in.
One of the benefits of Moyes is that he'll allow for a fairly smooth transition, compared to someone like Mourinho he isn't going to stamp the same authority on all areas of the club. In line with that I think we'll go for an assistant who has worked under Ferguson.
I'd like to give Moyes a chance, he's a good manager who can offer stability and who knows what more given the opportunity and resources, he doesn't mind giving youth a chance. I'm looking forward to next season, we've had the babes and fledglings now let's see Moyes's masters. I will of course still miss Fergie.
Well SSN reporting Moyes has held talks with the Everton chairman tonight.
I wouldn't be totally shocked if he brings Phil Neville with him as coach, he's completed all his badges and has been coaching with the England U21 and will be leaving Everton at the end of the season. May not happen but certainly wouldn't be shocked.
Moyes has no proven record at a big club. The same would be if we hire AVB, 'Arry or O'Neill.
How do you know what Jose would do? He's obviously watched Real Madrid B since he knows what tactics they use and has called up some of their players to play for Real Madrid. Since when does Mourinho allow indiscipline? He's benched Casillas because Iker has too much power as a player.
Is that good or bad?
Good call
I think Paisley is the ideal for Moyes to follow in this scenario in the sense that it's about continuing with the things that are already great about the club rather than trying to "stamp authority" on the situation.
Depends on your opinion of Moyes
Except it was Klopp who did that. All Dortmund gave him was the backing and the cash. He changed things at the club and improved them immensely. He's the one who built up that good foundation and brought in those youngsters. Moyes has had the same opportunity at Everton and done nothing brilliant.
During Moyes' Everton years Portsmouth is the only team outside the top four (or five) that has won the FA Cup. Even the league cup has been dominated by top sides in the same period. Saying that he has been underachieving in the cup department simply isn't true.
Be wary of the smallprint, it was a pre-arranged meeting prior to Chelsea-Spurs.
Michael Laudrup has only been in England for a season and he's already won a trophy. Plenty of managers outside of the big four have the odd trophy to their name. Moyes hasn't won anything at all at Everton in a decade.
It's nothing to do with what his name is, it's the fact that he hasn't achieved anything worthy of being appointed manager of a club the size of Manchester United.
If City appointed Moyes as a manager, everyone on here would be laughing at them.
Especially when you think that Everton like most other clubs don't take the League cup seriously.
We've hired an older Frank Spenser!
Fellaini and Barkley too probably.
Will Phil Neville come with him I wonder?
edit: In a coaching role obviously.
edit: In a coaching role obviously.
Interesting!
I felt the same, but thats more to do with my shock, sadness and disappointment at the news that Sir Alex was actually leaving. The more I think about it, the more the idea of a manager like Moyes feels right to me. He's not going to rock the boat, he'll just maintain the status quo which is all we need, after all, we've just won the league.
Dortmund were European champions in 96. They have been much better placed in the context of their league for an ascent than Everton ever have under Moyes.
The reporter said it was already scheduled beforehand
Essentially they didn't have United/City/Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool to contend with. If those clubs were all playing in the german league then Klopp may not have found it so easy to produce a team playing this football.
Posted back in December to much ridicule.
Pat yourself on the back Cider. If you throw enough vile, flea-infested, sloppy diarrhea at the wall, some of it is bound to stick.
What in God's name do people expect? He has competed against United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and City - having a pittance to spend compared to these sides. You can throw a couple of others in there too if you will: Spurs lately, Newcastle at times, even bloody Stoke have had more money to burn in recent years. What has the man done if not precisely to build an excellent foundation with small resources?
As others have said, it's fair enough to be disappointed, it's fair enough to regard Moyes as a bit of a dullard, nobody's over the moon with anything on a day like this...but to downplay his achievements at Everton is just plain unfair to him.
Thinking behind appointing Moyes will have a lot to do with how the backroom staff will be structured, and kept on compared to someone like Mourinho. Basically, continuity.
Dortmund have been excellent playing against Europe's elite.
Ah, so all Moyes needs is a Carling Cup and he will be United quality?
David Gill did say in an interview that european experience is a requisite to becoming a United....Moyes virtually has none unless he is talking about his jollies to Majorca.
People mentioning Laudrup as a better manager than Moyes for Man United
I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Moyes. He's known as a good man manager, a no nonsense and pragmatic tactician, and has been credited with creating a family atmosphere within Everton.
With the right advice and support, I reckon he'll be clever enough to keep United at the top of the tree. Given his lack of top-level European experience, his choice of assistant will be important though. I hope he chooses a Quieroz-type assistant who'll give him a completely different point of view to the one he's used to.
With the right advice and support, I reckon he'll be clever enough to keep United at the top of the tree. Given his lack of top-level European experience, his choice of assistant will be important though. I hope he chooses a Quieroz-type assistant who'll give him a completely different point of view to the one he's used to.
Would be nice for United to appoint a manager who has at least won a trophy... or got to a final of ANY competition.
I understand that, but they didn't have to compete with what an English club has to domestically to get to the top.
The Carling cup, while it is a trophy, is hardly something to write home about, especially for a club like Everton who still had a realistic enough chance at top 4 when it got to crunch time in the cup.
I hate that argument against Moyes. Realistically, he has two trophies a year he can win, and one of them isn't of much interest to them. Sure, it'd be nice if they won the Carling cup, but no huge achievement, such as getting a top four place or even top five now with the teams up there. Then in the FA cup, as we have proved by not winning it in 8 years, is a tough trophy to win. One bit of bad luck and thats that.
Why can't people just give him a chance before wanting rid of him?
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