Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?

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How many people wanted a certain Alex Ferguson gone before we won the fa cup in 1990?

Times and football have changed. I have not read this entire thread due to time constraints and stress but to me, it's No, No and No to Moyes. I have no confidence in his ability to manage high profile players or big money, I can't see him doing hairdryers, and he seems to be a colorless drip. That's my tuppence.
 
IF we went for Moyes, it's because the club trust him and i'll go with that. How many people wanted a certain Alex Ferguson gone before we won the fa cup in 1990?

We haven't had experience of appointing a manager since 26 years.

The last time SAF was retiring we were 24 hrs away from appointing Sven.

It's not easy to be hopeful this time round. Especially since the front runner is someone who hasn't won anything.
 
Relax. I'm not the bastion of anything. I just can't help but notice that what many people here want isn't exactly realistic. People vote for Pep Guardiola, for Christ's sake. Might as well include Justin Bieber in that list.

Hang on there, the question is who would you like be the next manager... not "out of all realistic choices, who do you want to be the manager"... so Pep is an acceptable choice.

It's obviously not 100% accurate (see Rafa) but it's the closest we've got to a survey.

Hopefully in a couple of years we'll look at Moyes and be able to confirm what Sir Alex said about most people not being able to spot potential. He's obviously thought Moyes was a potentially very talented manager since his time at Preston and he's done little wrong since then.

Obviously I would love nothing more to be proved wrong. Fergie has made a living on proving people wrong and it wouldn't be surprising to see him doing it again.

What I will say is that Fergie has never had to pick his own replacement before... in terms of seeing potential in a footballer, he has a proven track record, but the same can't be applied here. Obviously his opinion carries more weight then mine, but it's certainly a vastly different choice then Fergie has ever had to make.
 
His contracts up. Would we actually formally need to speak to Everton?
 
Well there has been some incredible over reactions in here today.

I have my fears too, but we aren't going to suddenly do a Liverpool and stop competing. Plus Sir Alex will always be there when he's needed.
 
After Fergie told Moyes to reject Sheffield Wednesday all those years ago I reckon he might have told Moyes to let Spurs know he wasnt interested when they were sniffing around last summer. I thought it was really odd at the time that he didnt go there.
 
I will take a great deal of pleasure in running it in all their faces too. Honestly I've lost faith in a lot of what I thought were decent posters today.

Like I say, I'd love to be proved wrong and for Moyes to do the business if he's appointed... and then y'all will have every right to rub everything in a lot of faces.

I'm sure the majority of posters on here will get fully behind him if/when he's appointed. Least, I'd like to think so.
 
If Moyes proves us all wrong, then everybody wins. That's what people want really.
 
After Fergie told Moyes to reject Sheffield Wednesday all those years ago I reckon he might have told Moyes to let Spurs know he wasnt interested when they were sniffing around last summer. I thought it was really odd at the time that he didnt go there.

Did they even offer him the job?
 
I trust Sir Alex when it comes to making decisions regarding the things he's proven to be extremely good at (basically, managing Manchester United)... but how many times has SAF had to pick his own sodding replacement? Forgive me if I don't blindly see eye to eye with him if Moyes is his pick.

Might be easier than picking a player up. He knows the candidates inside out and is friends with them. I'm certain we'll get the right man, we're lucky in a sense that there are some good candidates around at the moment.
 
Hang on there, the question is who would you like be the next manager... not "out of all realistic choices, who do you want to be the manager"... so Pep is an acceptable choice.

It's obviously not 100% accurate (see Rafa) but it's the closest we've got to a survey.

Fair enough. It's past the hypothetical stage now, though, isn't it? We're getting a new manager - and it won't be Bieber, regardless of his popularity. My personal wish, abandoning all reason and realism for the moment, is that all this is just a dream: I'll wake up and Fergie will still be in charge, indefinitely.
 
Jesus Christ people, calm down.

We're losing the greatest manager in the history of Manchester United, in the history of English football, and in the history of the game itself. It's not a good day for the club, it's bloody terrible. It's natural to be upset, angry, worried, nervous. I am all of those things.

Moyes wouldn't be my first choice as a manager to take this club forward, but then again I'm sure plenty on here wouldn't have had Sir Alex as there first choice 26 years ago.

This club is what it is today because of the truest we gave Sir Alex Ferguson. If we jumped the gun and fired him, we would be a totally different club. Sir Alex has done wonders for this club and we will miss him very much.

However. He rates Moyes, he always has. It's obvious he sees something in him that screams 'Manchester United'. And personally, I trust Sir Alex more then anyone on here on the future of this club.

If Moyes does indeed take the reign at Old Trafford, I'll do nothing but get behind the new boss, and afford him the time and patience needed.

We are not Liverpool, Chelsea, or Manchester City. We don't bow out when the chips are down, we don't make knee jerk decisions that could wreck the club. This won't have been done in a hurry, and I'm sure we'll make the right decision.
 
Might be easier than picking a player up. He knows the candidates inside out and is friends with them. I'm certain we'll get the right man, we're lucky in a sense that there are some good candidates around at the moment.

But can't that be a problem when hiring for a job?
 
Duncan Castles @DuncanCastles
Manchester United have decided to appoint David Moyes as their new manager. #MUFC #EFC
Moyes' appointment is expected to be announced before the end of the week, with staff at Old Trafford already beginning to be informed of the change of management. Senior players were caught unawares by Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to retire from football at the end of this season, only learning of his move this morning.
Moyes, who is in the final months of his contract at Everton, is comfortable with Ferguson's elevation to a position on United's board. He also comes without the complication of paying compensation to a rival club. While Jose Mourinho has held an ambition to succeed Ferguson, the Portuguese has a €40million exit clause at Real Madrid and has yet to negotiate a departure from the club.

This is pretty much done, too many journalists reporting it.
 
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My understanding is that nobody at Everton has been contacted by Manchester United or any other club for that matter with regards to David Moyes' future

Isn't his contract up at the end of the season?

Everton doesn't need to be contacted, Moyes can just walk away.
 
How it makes him such a ludicrous candidate as some of the reactions suggest I'm not sure.

Jose's going to Chelsea. Pep's going to Bayern. Klopp's staying at Dortmund. Heynckes turns 68 tomorrow. Which top, successful manager is available?

He's been the Everton manager for the past decade. Realistically the only trophy attainable is the League Cup. Had he won that people would still have been questioning his credentials.

Why can't his achievements be put into perspective instead of focusing on a lack of achievements?
We'd have to enquire to find out, but we don't bother.We could approach all of these managers before resorting to Moyes, we haven't. Mourinho is still under contract at Madrid and right now will have to resign or continue for next season, he's available. Pep's on a pre-contract at most. We've not spoken to Klopp. Heynckes has just took his team to a level where they're comfortably the best team in Europe, if he wanted the chance to do the same to us over a 3/4/5 year spell it's madness we wouldn't even speak to him.

Ancelotti, Pelligrini, Van Gaal, Hiddink?

His achievements are put in perspective, they just can't be compared to what we're looking for.. You have to draw a line somewhere, there are managers achieving back to back promotions in lower leagues, which is very impressive when put in perspective, but still not what's required to land a job of this size, and the same should be true of finishing in the Europa league places every once in a while.
 
Jesus Christ people, calm down.

We're losing the greatest manager in the history of Manchester United, in the history of English football, and in the history of the game itself. It's not a good day for the club, it's bloody terrible. It's natural to be upset, angry, worried, nervous. I am all of those things.

Moyes wouldn't be my first choice as a manager to take this club forward, but then again I'm sure plenty on here wouldn't have had Sir Alex as there first choice 26 years ago.

This club is what it is today because of the truest we gave Sir Alex Ferguson. If we jumped the gun and fired him, we would be a totally different club. Sir Alex has done wonders for this club and we will miss him very much.

However. He rates Moyes, he always has. It's obvious he sees something in him that screams 'Manchester United'. And personally, I trust Sir Alex more then anyone on here on the future of this club.

If Moyes does indeed take the reign at Old Trafford, I'll do nothing but get behind the new boss, and afford him the time and patience needed.

We are not Liverpool, Chelsea, or Manchester City. We don't bow out when the chips are down, we don't make knee jerk decisions that could wreck the club. This won't have been done in a hurry, and I'm sure we'll make the right decision.

Well said.
 
Huh ? It's a forum, and if you say something you do it in a discussion. Not to make a announcement.

Where have i been condescending ? If you disagree with me it's fine, but what's to get offended over if i disagreed on something you said?

It's sarky little comments like this which you always seem to throw into posts in every debate you have.

Would i be wrong to say, his record in Spain wasn't great and he quit when it became tough ? Can't recall fully.

I said my original comment mostly as a bit of a piss take yet you saw it upon yourself to argue away over it and continue to do so despite me already making it very clear why I would rather Laudrup over Moyes. You don't have to argue every little thing, let alone argue it in such a sarcastic and twattish manner with everyone.
 
Moyes wouldn't be my first choice as a manager to take this club forward, but then again I'm sure plenty on here wouldn't have had Sir Alex as there first choice 26 years ago.

And 26 years ago people would have been right in airing any worries they had about SAF signing for United. It just happens that he would have gone on to prove them wrong. Doesn't change anything at that moment in time though.
 
The transfer market is my main concern. Does Moyes have the same influence as SAF or Mourinho with big names? Obviously not at the moment.

Ronaldo is now completely out of the question, but would RVP have chosen Moyes over City?
 
We'd have to enquire to find out, but we don't bother.We could approach all of these managers before resorting to Moyes, we haven't.

And you know this...how, exactly? Maybe when he met Guardiola they discussed it but Guardiola was more interested in the Bayern job. He says he talks to Mourinho all the time so maybe they discussed it but Mourinho thinks that Chelsea and London feel like home to him. Maybe he talked to Heynckes but he wants to retire.
 
SAF came with a great pedigree, you can't make that comparison.

Yes he did but people still were putting pressure on Sir Alex. The fact is who we bring in, we have to support. It's up the the players to realize their potential.
 
The transfer market is my main concern. Does Moyes have the same influence as SAF or Mourinho with big names? Obviously not at the moment.

Ronaldo is now completely out of the question, but would RVP have chosen Moyes over City?

No, I think he pretty obviously wouldn't.

I've got nothing against Moyes per say, I don't want him but I don't want him for different reasons to others, but it's going to be years before he can even begin to command the respect Fergie did.

Unless we're going to pay bonkers wages we can forget about established stars atm.
 
People can say whatever they want but knowing Moyes will take over feels extremely underwhelming and dissapointing.
 
We'd have to enquire to find out, but we don't bother.We could approach all of these managers before resorting to Moyes, we haven't. Mourinho is still under contract at Madrid and right now will have to resign or continue for next season, he's available. Pep's on a pre-contract at most. We've not spoken to Klopp. Heynckes has just took his team to a level where they're comfortably the best team in Europe, if he wanted the chance to do the same to us over a 3/4/5 year spell it's madness we wouldn't even speak to him.

Ancelotti, Pelligrini, Van Gaal, Hiddink?

His achievements are put in perspective, they just can't be compared to what we're looking for.. You have to draw a line somewhere, there are managers achieving back to back promotions in lower leagues, which is very impressive when put in perspective, but still not what's required to land a job of this size, and the same should be true of finishing in the Europa league places every once in a while.

How do you know we haven't approached them? Perhaps we talked to Mourinho and were let known that he's going to Chelsea. Obviously we didn't speak to Guardiola or Klopp because that would have been pointless.
 
I'm more worried about having to deal with a manager who wears track suits on the touchline

He'll be alright. He can borrow a pair of shorts off Phelan. Blazer and shorts - that would be something, sort of underlining his lack of experience in Europe with a British schoolboy outfit.
 
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