The thing that's annoying me is everyone is on about Moyes 'commitment' and 'longevity' like it's a good thing just cause SAF stayed for 26 years. He seems to be getting the job just because of that, the world's moved on there's barely a job on the planet that expects a 25 year commitment, it's just not how it works anymore. You get the best man for the job if that mean Mourinho for 4 years then so be it, dont get Moyes just because he will stick around for a longer period of time.
Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?
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Would a manager with this kind of experience outside of PL be considered?
Yes, its the mirror but this is what they have to say about Moyes:
It's easy to see why David Moyes is being touted so heavily to take over from Sir Alex Ferguson.
There's no such thing as a mini-me when it comes to Fergie, but Moyes is probably the closest.
He is hewn from the same stone as Ferguson and they share the same footballing values.
They believe in hard work, loyalty and discipline and these beliefs are the bedrock of their management style.
Moyes has built a formidable Everton side, one which is again destine for a top-six finish, on relatively-limited resources when compared to the likes of Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal.
He has a proven track record in the transfer market and like Fergie, he makes good players better players through coaching.
Look at the job he has done on Leighton Baines, Phil Jagielka, Tim Howard, Marouane Fellaini, Mikel Arteta, Tim Cahill, Leon Osman etc.
He has Fergie's passion for the job and is also known to lose his temper the odd time when things annoy him.
But he also knows where the line is and does not get involved in controversy or mud-slinging with other managers.
He would value the good name of Manchester United around the world and appreciate the club is bigger than any one individual.
This is something a certain Portuguese gentleman still has to learn.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/david-moyes-strong-contender-replace-1875995
It's easy to see why David Moyes is being touted so heavily to take over from Sir Alex Ferguson.
There's no such thing as a mini-me when it comes to Fergie, but Moyes is probably the closest.
He is hewn from the same stone as Ferguson and they share the same footballing values.
They believe in hard work, loyalty and discipline and these beliefs are the bedrock of their management style.
Moyes has built a formidable Everton side, one which is again destine for a top-six finish, on relatively-limited resources when compared to the likes of Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal.
He has a proven track record in the transfer market and like Fergie, he makes good players better players through coaching.
Look at the job he has done on Leighton Baines, Phil Jagielka, Tim Howard, Marouane Fellaini, Mikel Arteta, Tim Cahill, Leon Osman etc.
He has Fergie's passion for the job and is also known to lose his temper the odd time when things annoy him.
But he also knows where the line is and does not get involved in controversy or mud-slinging with other managers.
He would value the good name of Manchester United around the world and appreciate the club is bigger than any one individual.
This is something a certain Portuguese gentleman still has to learn.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/david-moyes-strong-contender-replace-1875995
Why?
I like him and he has done a very good job here. He is good enough for a club in Evertons position with our budget. But the football he plays is very pragmatic and limited. It won't be accepted at a club like Man Utd. He is not used to dealing with players and egos like Utd have. I also feel he will out of his depth in the CL.
It won't work. Utd are dropping a huge clanger here. City and Chelsea should be rubbing their hands.
I think it does play a subconscious role in people's minds... ther've been so many fine Scottish managers, witha couple of very notable examples at United. It's hard to stop part of your mind being influenced by this.
I'd still rather have a manager who has won something trickier than the thrid division, mind.
I think he shares a lot of similar qualities with Sir Alex. He's loyal, he gets the best out of his players (a lot of Everton players have told Moyes they would probably leave if he did) and he's got the stong mentality to be a manager at a big club. By all accounts, they're like two peas in a pod.
Let's not forget, Fergie spends a lot of time with Moyes. He must realise that he knows what he's talking about and is obviously the right man for the job.
Do you reckon Moyes would be able to atract the best players to United?..That would be a concern for me.
Yeah, agreed. More than being scottish, having very long experience in England is important and in a similar structure of management at Everton.
Foreign managers who have no experience can have a culture shock.
Yes, its Fergie's faith alone that is swinging my swingometer slightly back to Moyes at the moment, although the article above makes some other good points
What was Guardiola's experience before the Barcelona job?
What was Conte's experience before the Juventus job?
I hope to feck its not Moyes. It's such a huge error on our parts bringing in a manager with no title/CL experience. It's why i'm 95% certain it's Mourinho we're going for.
If the trophy is so easy to win then you might have wonder why a man united quality manager hasn't won it in ten years, of course football isn't that simple but I've not seen anything to suggest Moyes is a world class manager rather than a decent mid table manager which I've considered him to be.
Is this why Rooney is off to Bayern as well?
Players would come for the club, regardless of manager.
Maybe Bruce, but please not the other two even though Robson was my favourite player. Otherwise, I could see Moyes from the existing EPL managers and then Mourinho from the bunch outside the EPL are the front runners.
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David Moyes has just left Everton's Finch Farm training ground. More soon on #ssn
Aye the thought of Ronaldo coming back this summer now feels even further away.
I'd have been okay with him if he'd had a spell as Fergie's assistant first, but I'm not so sure now. I rate him highly as a manager, but it would be very dangerous to give a man with no Champions League experience such a massive job. I know it's not everything, but knowing how to set a team out in the Champions League is massive now. I'd much rather go for someone with a more impressive CV like Mourinho personally.
No to Moyes. Not now, not ever.
People act like he's worked a miracle with Everton, forgetting they were quite a big club a while back.
Fergie had actually won trophies before he came here, so I don't think the vague similarities are any use.
Mourinho would be a seamless transition, in that he's probably the one manager in the world who would actually think he could add to fergie's work, and not be in awe of it!
He'd relish taking on the biggest club in the country after Madrid.
People act like he's worked a miracle with Everton, forgetting they were quite a big club a while back.
Fergie had actually won trophies before he came here, so I don't think the vague similarities are any use.
Mourinho would be a seamless transition, in that he's probably the one manager in the world who would actually think he could add to fergie's work, and not be in awe of it!
He'd relish taking on the biggest club in the country after Madrid.
That's a good point. Ideally, we'll have someone who can stay around for a while, but the fact is that Fergie's reign was a one off length wise. As long as we don't have a constant managerial merry-go round, then I'd rather see a succession of top quality managers who hang around for 4 or 5 years than someone who isn't as good because they'll stay for longer.
Everybody calm down. It'll be Moyes.
Is this why Rooney is off to Bayern as well?
Moyes replacing Fergie
Fellaini replacing Rooney
What a summer window that would be
in all seriousness though if Rooney wanted to stay I don't think it would be too difficult for him and Moyes to bury the hatchetI think there's every chance he'll be a success here and there's a lot to admire about him...BUT, as you said, his football is very pragmatic. He's going to have to change the habits of a lifetime to adapt. He's always struggled with the attacking set up of his team. He doesn't seem to be very keen on 'flair' players.
Of course, all of that could change. He might simply have been cutting his cloth and if he had the opportunity to work with the players and resources at United he might flourish and become a much more expansive manager, capable of sending out teams in the United tradition. It's a leap of faith. He obviously has lots of fantastic qualities, but I'm more worried about the ones he hasn't shown yet, whether through unwillingness or simply not being in a position to do so. Little things like how to fit a playmaker like Kagawa in your team, not having a big lump up front to hit with long balls, being up against top, top sides in the CL, even the fact that he won't ever have had the sorts of resources to buy players as we'll be able to offer him. There's a lot to prove. If he gets time I suspect he'll do a good job but, quite simply, he doesn't bring that guarantee of success you get with Mourinho, for example, whatever you might think of him.
This is the exact reason why nobody is calm.
Nice that they are allowing us to announce something if we want to
Oh dear god, unless someone is hired soon, they're going to be following his, Mourinho's and Klopp's every move.
I completely agree btw with Dixiedean's assessment of Moyes at Man utd. I don't think he'd do a great job and I don't think the fans would take to him too kindly tbh.
Moyes might actually be better than most of us think. SAF has a big saying in this.
And since then, they've been left behind, way behind. The fact they are a big club doesn't make when they've been doing for the past 12 years or so less than impressive and remarkable.
I don't think it's even an issue, the size of the club, wages and the quality of the team has a far, far bigger bearing on attracting players.
What does concern me is experience in Europe (not even the slightest hint of European success), no trophies in 11 years and the fact his biggest achievement to date is to get one of the bigger clubs in the country to finish upper-midtable on a small budget.. Looking at it objectively, you'd have to say the appointment is fecking mental, given we should be aiming to achieve domestic and European dominance.
Independent says it'll be done by end of week. It's Moyes chaps, got to get on with it and back him to the hilt.
So James Ducker has said that we hope to appoint Moyes in the next 24 hours.
Another thing, apropos of nothing at all: I bet we end up paying some compensation to Everton, despite the fact his deal is up in the summer.
Good luck Moyes. I'll miss you Fergie, hope you can emulate him David!
Moyes has done well at Everton without a doubt. Could you imagine Sir Alex accepting so little backing from his chairman and so little progress over that time though?
Everybody from The Times to The Independant reporting that Moyes will be hired within 24 hours.
Looking more and more likely it will be Moyes. Not my first choice considering other managers who are out there but good luck to him and I hope he gets the support of all the fans.
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