Moyes: "There's no budget" | Moyes told that he can spend as much as he likes

"We are short in midfield.....so I've decided to convert Phil Jones into a full-time central midfielder and I've asked Phil Neville and Paul Scholes to play for another year."
 
I do think we'll sign at least 3 more players. Whether one or two of them will be 18/19 year olds, I don't know. But I do think we have one marquee signing to look forward for this Summer.

Think Moyes will want to get off to a good start with the fans by giving us a big name. I don't personally think he needs to, but there are some fickle fans out there who need that bit of a helping hand to get on Moyes' side.
 
How about not posting every single piece of shit and stating it like it's fact? Tabloids are not much better, but at least a few years ago people were aware that it was all bollocks. The strange thing is that people seem to give more credence to what the journos say on twitter than to what they actually publish in the paper. Tabloid journalists on twitter is the absolute lowest of the low.

Well considering the guy that made the Tweet was the guy who wrote the article in the OP whom is currently following the United tour in Bangkok. It's not some random bloke sitting in a dark room in London.
 
Oh well that confirms it! A self-publicizing journalist claims to have inside information - it MUST be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't we lock all twitter nonsense - and more importantly, all of the half-brained, cretinous, retarded dullards who believe this shit - into one thread?

Stop polluting the forum with such trivial and unfounded rumours. The affect is that this place is slowly becoming diseased with this fecking bollocks. Nothing stories spread like fecking viruses.

Seriously. feck OFF.

No offence man, but there's feck all happening after the season finishes & we're all nosey bastards who just want to know whats goin on with our club. Its silly-season, its called that for a reason & no-one died for God sake. Chill out & allow yourself to get excited a little. This lark reminds me of the "Religion" thread on CE forum - show me proof right now etc..

Dont let things bother you so much - its only a feckin game at the end of the day man... yeah right - like i meant that ha ha ha :-)
 
I get what you're saying alright & i'm saying that i totally disagree. As much as i love Evra, Baines is far better than Evra in every department & is ready-made to play in any top European team & be exceptional aswell. No-one at United can touch him & Fabio/Buttner cant be trusted in big games either. They've a long way to go to be even first-teamers & we shouldnt just sit still with this loyalty to the players we have nonsense - thats rose-tinted glasses shit right there & left-back position needs an upgrade now.

Baines is excellent defensively, works hard & tracks back with equal determination as going forward - if we can get him, he'd put goals on a plate for our forward line. Evra cant even cross his arms for feck sake, nevermind whip a ball into the box, he's always caught out of position & doesnt bother his arse in trackin back either & that shits been goin on for about 3 seasons too. Last season he was better, but it wouldnt have been hard compared to the previous 2 seasons where he was a liability against the better sides.

Baines would improve our team to whole new levels, his stats as an attacking force in all leagues in Europe are above everyone elses, even Ronnie & Messi.


http://squawka.com/news/2013/06/20/...2012-13-season/2013062011249/top10facts1#main

Leighton Baines has created more goal-scoring opportunities this season than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo combined

The ex-Wigan left-back has had an incredible season for the Toffees defensively and going forward, but nobody expected him to be Everton’s main creative force. Whether it’s from crosses, corners, free-kicks or drifting inside, Baines is a lethal provider for his club and many Premier League teams will be aware of the threat he poses next season, especially if new manager Roberto Martinez employs his favoured 3-4-3 system.


You can throw all the stats and articles at me that you like. The fact remains that the left back position is no where near as pressing as you make out. Baines isn't going to be our European silver bullet.
 
No offence man, but there's feck all happening after the season finishes & we're all nosey bastards who just want to know whats goin on with our club. Its silly-season, its called that for a reason & no-one died for God sake. Chill out & allow yourself to get excited a little. This lark reminds me of the "Religion" thread on CE forum - show me proof right now etc..

Dont let things bother you so much - its only a feckin game at the end of the day man... yeah right - like i meant that ha ha ha :-)


I'm touched by your concern but don't worry, whilst I am somewhat irked I'm mostly laughing at the muppetry, I'm not genuinely angered by it. Over the top derision is my style of humour.

I do think it's a shame though. I remember when transfer muppetry used to be about making pretty formations and fantasizing about how the team is going to play next season. Now it's all a load of wannabe managers and chairman moaning about policies and moves made by the club without any actual information. The former was innocent and charming, the latter is something altogether different.
 
Perhaps, although I thought the above was a quote from Dave. If it isn't, then yeah, would seem to be probably nonsense. Urgo, lets kill LR7 for posting it.



:lol: Muppet season brings the worst out of people like the above. Hilarious reaction :lol:

Ben Affleck was excellent in that. Disgrace he wasnt nominated for an Oscar for Best Director too!
 
Well considering the guy that made the Tweet was the guy who wrote the article in the OP whom is currently following the United tour in Bangkok. It's not some random bloke sitting in a dark room in London.


Yeah, and he just so happened to forget to put the only specific piece of information into the article.

"Hmm, Moyes said that Thiago wasn't a priority. I wonder if that's worth putting into my article? Nah, best not."
 
You can throw all the stats and articles at me that you like. The fact remains that the left back position is no where near as pressing as you make out. Baines isn't going to be our European silver bullet.

He actually could be against certain teams who play narrow, and if Rooney learns how to head the ball again
 
Yeah, and he just so happened to forget to put the only specific piece of information into the article.

"Hmm, Moyes said that Thiago wasn't a priority. I wonder if that's worth putting into my article? Nah, best not."

He only tweeted about it after being specifically asked. Wont be surprised if it was made up.
 
He actually could be against certain teams who play narrow, and if Rooney learns how to head the ball again


We've got more than enough width in our squad as things stand - it'd help if just one of our wingers could get their crossing mojo back.

I'm not one of those people who doesn't rate Baines - I just don't think it's a pressing issue for us.
 
We've got more than enough width in our squad as things stand - it'd help if just one of our wingers could get their crossing mojo back.

I'm not one of those people who doesn't rate Baines - I just don't think it's a pressing issue for us.

With Baines it wouldnt matter if Bebe started every game, we'd have quality delivery into the box time and again
 
With Baines it wouldnt matter if Bebe started every game, we'd have quality delivery into the box time and again


But, how about spend the cash on a central midfielder instead?

Our ability to cross isn't contingent on buying Baines - Young, Nani, Valencia, Rafael and Evra are all capable of producing good crosses for our forwards.
 
Yawn. United come out with the same old tiresome rhetoric every summer. If they are working so very hard then I expect some terrific reesults from that. Seriously quit the jibba-jabba and shut up until the right players are actually signed, then talk about it all you like. Its this constant insecure need to profess that there is money, we know who we want, the Glazers are fecking amazing yada yada. Only difference now is its Moyes working from Ferguson's script.

We are short in midfield, most of all in quality, not quantity. Its been blindingly fecking obvious for years. Hopefully its the quality measure the club provide. Until there are significant additions signed, sealed and delivered then this kind of speil means sweet fanny feck all adams.
 
I don't think that there is such a big difference. We haven't heard Moyes saying that there is no budget limit, and that same journo is claiming to have had lunch with Moyes and that Moyes apparently told him that we have an unlimited budget and Thiago wasn't never a priority.

About making quotes, it is a Sun journalist and we know how reliable Sun is.

Oh yeah, us Irish folk know only too well how reliable the sun is - the cnut hides behind the feckin clouds all day everyday during the Spring & Summer months - bar the past couple of weeks though..
 
I said in the other thread.

If as is now widely believed, Bayern will sign Thiago, what is the point of Moyes now saying he was a priority?

None whatsoever. If he was a priority it's not something United's manager would gladly admit to some journos over lunch, you'd think, now that it looks inevitable we won't get him.

Still, one might ask, perhaps, why he wasn't a priority - if that is indeed true.
 
Yeah, and he just so happened to forget to put the only specific piece of information into the article.

"Hmm, Moyes said that Thiago wasn't a priority. I wonder if that's worth putting into my article? Nah, best not."


Perhaps he did lie about the Thiago comment, perhaps he didn't add it in the article for a specific reason (which happens).

You should raise the issue in the Admin Forum. Launch a campaign to get Tweets banned from the forum.
 
But, how about spend the cash on a central midfielder instead?

Our ability to cross isn't contingent on buying Baines - Young, Nani, Valencia, Rafael and Evra are all capable of producing good crosses for our forwards.

They werent last season. And Moyes is used to having a consistant, brilliant cross from his fullback. Evra isnt going to cut it
 
Yawn. United come out with the same old tiresome rhetoric every summer. If they are working so very hard then I expect some terrific reesults from that. Seriously quit the jibba-jabba and shut up until the right players are actually signed, then talk about it all you like. Its this constant insecure need to profess that there is money, we know who we want, the Glazers are fecking amazing yada yada. Only difference now is its Moyes working from Ferguson's script.

We are short in midfield, most of all in quality, not quantity. Its been blindingly fecking obvious for years. Hopefully its the quality measure the club provide. Until there are significant additions signed, sealed and delivered then this kind of speil means sweet fanny feck all adams.

People - THIS is why posting all this twitter bollocks is dangerous for the Cafe.

There are a certain % of posters, of which Comsmit is one of the worst, who are obsessed with moaning, crying and whinging about everything United do.

The people who post the twitter stuff might well be doing so in good humour, fully aware of it's lack of reliability, but dullards like Comsmit take it as all the ammo they need to launch into yet another rant about United doing everything wrong. And this attitude slowly grows and spreads and makes the forum a very tiresome place. In a few months time it'll probably be accepted as fact by many that United didn't see Thiago as a priority, when in truth there is nothing even resembling concrete evidence to prove so.
 
People - THIS is why posting all this twitter bollocks is dangerous for the Cafe.

There are a certain % of posters, of which Comsmit is one of the worst, who are obsessed with moaning, crying and whinging about everything United do.

The people who post the twitter stuff might well be doing so in good humour, fully aware of it's lack of reliability, but dullards like Comsmit take it as all the ammo they need to launch into yet another rant about United doing everything wrong. And this attitude slowly grows and spreads and makes the forum a very tiresome place. In a few months time it'll probably be accepted as fact by many that United didn't see Thiago as a priority, when in truth there is nothing even resembling concrete evidence to prove so.

Good post :)
 
How about not posting every single piece of shit and stating it like it's fact? Tabloids are not much better, but at least a few years ago people were aware that it was all bollocks. The strange thing is that people seem to give more credence to what the journos say on twitter than to what they actually publish in the paper. Tabloid journalists on twitter is the absolute lowest of the low.

Journalists hid behind a daily spread & said what they wanted to sell papers & that was that. Now, they cant hide because Twatter is interactive & folk will question what is twatted by said journalist at that time, so journalists are constantly elaborating on their piece to either back up their lies or to convince folk they have a scoop type of thing. Big difference now with social media, than it was with the daily rag transfer speculation of the past.

Making your own mind up is the key, but tellin others what to think is no better than some of the shite thats being spouted on Twatter by these journo's to be honest!

I think you need a hug dude :D
 
Yawn. United come out with the same old tiresome rhetoric every summer. If they are working so very hard then I expect some terrific reesults from that. Seriously quit the jibba-jabba and shut up until the right players are actually signed, then talk about it all you like. Its this constant insecure need to profess that there is money, we know who we want, the Glazers are fecking amazing yada yada. Only difference now is its Moyes working from Ferguson's script.

We are short in midfield, most of all in quality, not quantity. Its been blindingly fecking obvious for years. Hopefully its the quality measure the club provide. Until there are significant additions signed, sealed and delivered then this kind of speil means sweet fanny feck all adams.

Wow how fecking spoilt are you?
 
It boils down to the fact some of us cannot stand not being proved right about the takeover. In truth we've had years of success, non-interference and money whenever the manager has asked for it. This doesn't fit in with the narrative so instead we focus on our own perceptions of the midfield and extrapolate that to somehow link the whole thing into being a disaster which is what we said in the first place because it makes us feel better about ourselves.
 
Good post :)

It's not though. It's people like him that feck me off because they jump on the Top Red bandwagon whenever anything negative is posted about the club. It's why the Caf is such a good forum, people are free to speak their mind, be it negative or positive. It'd be a pretty dull world if everyone was told to agree with one another. He might find that it makes the Caf a "very tiresome place", well grand, that's his opinion, that doesn't make it correct.

I'd rather have a Cosmit who speaks his mind be it wrongly or rightly than some geezer that talks down to people. That is of course... my opinion ;)

Anyway, this is gone madly offtopic. So that'll be my last post in here. In short, chill the feck out Rowem, Dave wtf you say that for you cretin.

/leaves stage to the left.
 
I'm touched by your concern but don't worry, whilst I am somewhat irked I'm mostly laughing at the muppetry, I'm not genuinely angered by it. Over the top derision is my style of humour.

I do think it's a shame though. I remember when transfer muppetry used to be about making pretty formations and fantasizing about how the team is going to play next season. Now it's all a load of wannabe managers and chairman moaning about policies and moves made by the club without any actual information. The former was innocent and charming, the latter is something altogether different.

Its just a bitta fantasy football for Christ sake man. I really dont see the harm. We're all kids at heart & personally speaking - i'll never stop fantasing as if it was me scoring for United or what i would have done if i was in a certain position our player found himself in, but didnt score etc.

Just let boys be boys. Blokes get enough reality-checks from their birds - thats the whole point of the Caf in many respects..
 
Its just a bitta fantasy football for Christ sake man. I really dont see the harm. We're all kids at heart & personally speaking - i'll never stop fantasing as if it was me scoring for United or what i would have done if i was in a certain position our player found himself in, but didnt score etc.

Just let boys be boys. Blokes get enough reality-checks from their birds - thats the whole point of the Caf in many respects..


This is the harm of it:

Yawn. United come out with the same old tiresome rhetoric every summer. If they are working so very hard then I expect some terrific reesults from that. Seriously quit the jibba-jabba and shut up until the right players are actually signed, then talk about it all you like. Its this constant insecure need to profess that there is money, we know who we want, the Glazers are fecking amazing yada yada. Only difference now is its Moyes working from Ferguson's script.

We are short in midfield, most of all in quality, not quantity. Its been blindingly fecking obvious for years. Hopefully its the quality measure the club provide. Until there are significant additions signed, sealed and delivered then this kind of speil means sweet fanny feck all adams.

That is not charming, childish fantasy. Yet it's the end result of some seemingly innocuous transfer muppetry.
 
You can throw all the stats and articles at me that you like. The fact remains that the left back position is no where near as pressing as you make out. Baines isn't going to be our European silver bullet.

He would vastly improve our team to no end. Thats all i need to know & its not your money anyway, so whats the big deal?!

Without stating the obvious like you have, of course left-back isnt the main priority, but Moyes wants Baines in probably before Martinez gets into his head & maybe offers him an enlarged contract. Baines would be mad to turn a move down to us - he wont ever play Champions League football with Everton & he'd be in his element playin with our forward line too. Sure Fergie tried to sign him last Summer aswell, but maybe didnt persue it too much in case he pissed Moyes off too much than he most likely was at the time!
 
He would vastly improve our team to no end. Thats all i need to know & its not your money anyway, so whats the big deal?!

Without stating the obvious like you have, of course left-back isnt the main priority, but Moyes wants Baines in probably before Martinez gets into his head & maybe offers him an enlarged contract. Baines would be mad to turn a move down to us - he wont ever play Champions League football with Everton & he'd be in his element playin with our forward line too. Sure Fergie tried to sign him last Summer aswell, but maybe didnt persue it too much in case he pissed Moyes off too much than he most likely was at the time!

Ne he wouldn't. Any improvement would be marginal and not a priority at any rate
 
He actually could be against certain teams who play narrow, and if Rooney learns how to head the ball again

Exactly!

Rooney was prolific that season with headed goals because of Valencia & Nani's inch-perfect crossing, they've had a bittuva mare season past, but they could come good as its world-cup year & good players who've lost form, generally put a much improved shift in during that season before the WC. Its traditionally a good year for football, with players playin outta there skins to make international squads.

Havin those two back on form with delivery etc & Baines on the left - we'd score bucket-loads i reckon!
 
He would vastly improve our team to no end. Thats all i need to know & its not your money anyway, so whats the big deal?!

Without stating the obvious like you have, of course left-back isnt the main priority, but Moyes wants Baines in probably before Martinez gets into his head & maybe offers him an enlarged contract. Baines would be mad to turn a move down to us - he wont ever play Champions League football with Everton & he'd be in his element playin with our forward line too. Sure Fergie tried to sign him last Summer aswell, but maybe didnt persue it too much in case he pissed Moyes off too much than he most likely was at the time!


I agree with akash02 - any improvement would be marginal. I know it's not my money, but it's not as though United operate without financial constraints. As such, I prefer the club to spend the money on positions where it's really need it. I'd prefer us to retain Evra, Buttner and Fabio and pump the £15m into a move for a central midfielder; something we're crying out for. I think Baines is a good player, but you're overrating his potential impact on us massively. He wouldn't be a game changer for us.
 
Exactly!

Rooney was prolific that season with headed goals because of Valencia & Nani's inch-perfect crossing, they've had a bittuva mare season past, but they could come good as its world-cup year & good players who've lost form, generally put a much improved shift in during that season before the WC. Its traditionally a good year for football, with players playin outta there skins to make international squads.

Havin those two back on form with delivery etc & Baines on the left - we'd score bucket-loads i reckon!

Fellaini is a better header of the ball than Rooney. How many did he score from Baines crosses?
 
Exactly!

Rooney was prolific that season with headed goals because of Valencia & Nani's inch-perfect crossing, they've had a bittuva mare season past, but they could come good as its world-cup year & good players who've lost form, generally put a much improved shift in during that season before the WC. Its traditionally a good year for football, with players playin outta there skins to make international squads.

Havin those two back on form with delivery etc & Baines on the left - we'd score bucket-loads i reckon!


You've just alluded to it yourself - we just need to get our wingers back into the form they're capable of. It just seems like folly to buy a left back on the basis he can cross the ball well, especially when we already have that skill set (albeit currently dormant) in our squad.
 
People - THIS is why posting all this twitter bollocks is dangerous for the Cafe.

There are a certain % of posters, of which Comsmit is one of the worst, who are obsessed with moaning, crying and whinging about everything United do.

The people who post the twitter stuff might well be doing so in good humour, fully aware of it's lack of reliability, but dullards like Comsmit take it as all the ammo they need to launch into yet another rant about United doing everything wrong. And this attitude slowly grows and spreads and makes the forum a very tiresome place. In a few months time it'll probably be accepted as fact by many that United didn't see Thiago as a priority, when in truth there is nothing even resembling concrete evidence to prove so.

Rowem in self-gratification shocker.

Exactly how do you decide that I pay a single blind bit of attention to the cesspool that is Twitter? I don't post in that thread, I barely look in that thread. I don't think I've posted once in the Thiago thread...because I don't buy into bollocky little snippets of bullshit from wannabe football agents and egotistical journalists.

What I do pay attention to are press releases from the club that generally follow a trend or pattern. Let me put this straight, I'm reacting the way I do because I'm tired of reading the same old guff every pre-season, guff that doesn't need to be said, guff that United subscribe too more than most. Sure big clubs comment on the odd rumour, but by in large they shut up and get their business done. I'm not suggesting we don't get business done, but I'd rather the club talk about it when the bread is on the table. Then we can all relax, have a nice mug of herbal tea and satisfy ourselves to our hearts content.