Moyes: "There's no budget" | Moyes told that he can spend as much as he likes

Everton's average position under Moyes in his 11 seasons was 7th, Spurs' average position in the same time was 8th.
I wondered what that would be but I just couldn't be arsed finding out for myself.
 
No, it's much more stupid to base it on a team than it is on a player as there are a lot more variables.

If you'd rather just apply it to Fellaini as well.

I've seen Fellaini play lots of times. But I doubt Alistair, who dismissed Soldado, has seen him play that often before he arrived in the Prem. Or if he has, then somehow he's managed to miss his good scoring record.

And if it's stupid to make league predictions when the season starts, then OK. But then do you want no-one to ever make such predictions?
 
Just watched today's press conference. Why did Moyes contradict his entire summer by declaring he'd never talk about potential targets when asked about Bale?
 
In fairness, I'm not gonna look too much into it. I actually would've chuckled to myself had Ferguson done the same.
 
Not sure why some United fans are arguing here...

Spurs had a great summer and signed some top players and have got off to a great start.
We humiliated ourselves in the summer, signed someone, who in a lot of people's opinions, is not a United type player, overpaid for him big time and have got off to a woeful start and have been playing dire football and Fergie is no more.
Spurs also have a manager who has won a lot more then Moyes has at a very young age

They have every right to be posting and boasting at the moment. I know I'd be bullying Glaston like a bitch if it was the other way around :D
 
I've seen Fellaini play lots of times. But I doubt Alistair, who dismissed Soldado, has seen him play that often before he arrived in the Prem. Or if he has, then somehow he's managed to miss his good scoring record.

And if it's stupid to make league predictions when the season starts, then OK. But then do you want no-one to ever make such predictions?
I don't really care. It's you flip flopping on whether you can give opinions on new arrivals at this point of the season. You can do it with a manager but not a player.
 
Not sure why some United fans are arguing here...

Spurs had a great summer and signed some top players and have got off to a great start.
We humiliated ourselves in the summer, signed someone, who in a lot of people's opinions, is not a United type player, overpaid for him big time and have got off to a woeful start and have been playing dire football and Fergie is no more.
Spurs also have a manager who has won a lot more then Moyes has at a very young age

They have every right to be posting and boasting at the moment. I know I'd be bullying Glaston like a bitch if it was the other way around :D
They signed a bunch of players who are unproven. They were shopping at a different end of the market to Manchester United. Crowing should be saved for when something is actually achieved. Especially if you have form for silly predictions.
 
Smart-arse comments aside, here's what Moyes said when asked about Bale.

"We only talk about the players we think there is a reason to talk about and I wouldn't comment on that."

How does that contradict himself?

He didn't have a problem discussing Baines, Herrera, Fabregas etc.
 
They signed a bunch of players who are unproven. They were shopping at a different end of the market to Manchester United. Crowing should be saved for when something is actually achieved. Especially if you have form for silly predictions.


Yeah ok I'll give you that. He's a bit like the kid in school who said his older brother was the strongest guy in the world...Full of shit, but harmless and innocent
 
Hehe. Excellent.

Any other stattos able to compare net spend at the two clubs over the same period of time?

I assume we talk about the time when Moyes was the manager fo Everton? So 01/02 until 12/13.

Season / Everton / Tottenham (currency is Mil € btw.)
01/02 / -7.2 / -18.3
02/03 / -12.7 / - 9.1
03/04 / -9.1 / - 28
04/05 / +33.5 / -36.6
05/06 / -22.5 / -13.8
06/07 / -19.6 / -22.3
07/08 / -17.5 / -71.6
08/09 / -11.7 / -52.1
09/10 / +5.1 / -8.5
10/11 / +4.9 / -23.1
11/12 / +19.6 / +33.8
12/13 / -2.9 / -5.4
total / -40.1 / -255.1

Numbers speak for themselfes I think.

EDIT: As a little addition, I checked the three years, when the difference was the greatest (04/05; 07/08; 08/09). Everton finished in every season above the Spurs by a minimum of 3 places (08/09), max. was 07/08 with 5 places.
 
I dunno, it looks like he's chopped and changed his policy on discussing players when it's suited thus far.

I might have missed something in the presser today but the above quote contradicts nothing that was said this summer.

Means feck all, anyway. All managers are hypocrites and liars when it comes to talking about players they want to sign from other clubs.
 
I might have missed something in the presser today but the above quote contradicts nothing that was said this summer.

Means feck all, anyway. All managers are hypocrites and liars when it comes to talking about players they want to sign from other clubs.

Pretty much, like I said had it been Ferguson I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. Just pointing it out.
 
Holy shit. Now he's being criticized for whether or not he's talking about certain players?

We've entered RAWK territory now.
 
Everton's average position under Moyes in his 11 seasons was 7th, Spurs' average position in the same time was 8th.

Hehe. Excellent.

Any other stattos able to compare net spend at the two clubs over the same period of time?
I assume we talk about the time when Moyes was the manager fo Everton? So 01/02 until 12/13.

Season / Everton / Tottenham (currency is Mil € btw.)
01/02 / -7.2 / -18.3
02/03 / -12.7 / - 9.1
03/04 / -9.1 / - 28
04/05 / +33.5 / -36.6
05/06 / -22.5 / -13.8
06/07 / -19.6 / -22.3
07/08 / -17.5 / -71.6
08/09 / -11.7 / -52.1
09/10 / +5.1 / -8.5
10/11 / +4.9 / -23.1
11/12 / +19.6 / +33.8
12/13 / -2.9 / -5.4
total / -40.1 / -255.1

Numbers speak for themselfes I think.

EDIT: As a little addition, I checked the three years, when the difference was the greatest (04/05; 07/08; 08/09). Everton finished in every season above the Spurs by a minimum of 3 places (08/09), max. was 07/08 with 5 places.

:lol::lol::lol:

Amazing how Glaston hasn't replied to this yet, eh?
 
Do you honestly believe there's Manchester United fans out there hoping we lose games? C'mon...
Looking at some of the completely retarded comments some make then its not too much of a stretch to think that some want to see him fail just so they can say "I told you so"
We mock RAWK but seriously this place is looking just as moronic as RAWK does lately.
 
Nearly right ... except that Soldado cost just under £26m, is 28 years old and scored bucket-loads for Valencia (physical presence or not), and also that I haven't said you overpaid for Ozil (instead I said that you paid a lot of money for a player who operates in an area of your squad that didn't especially need strengthening).

I didn't realise I had quoted you, oh wait... I hadn't. It has been Spurs supporters general consensus that we have overpaid - even AVB claimed as much. To be honest I don't remember reading your opinion on the matter at all until now, but it's been duly noted.

Soldado being bought for that much presents much more of a risk, in my opinion. He will struggle to lead your line all season. Though Eriksen is class, and I really like the look of Paulinho and Lamela.
 
Soldado does look like a gross overpay for someone who is not really that good. A couple of penalties aside, what's he actually done?

My thoughts exactly. A fit, firing and focussed Greedy would be ideal for them. They would have a very imposing side then, thank god he is a headcase.
 
On Soldado, it's a bit unfair to slag him already when most foreign strikers need a season to adapt. I wouldn't write him off just yet. He's done well enough IMO.
 
My thoughts exactly. A fit, firing and focussed Greedy would be ideal for them. They would have a very imposing side then, thank god he is a headcase.


He strikes me as being a bit of a poacher. His movement is OK but his build up play is non-existent. 10 and a half men when he's on the pitch. A Defoe upgrade.
 
On Soldado, it's a bit unfair to slag him already when most foreign strikers need a season to adapt. I wouldn't write him off just yet. He's done well enough IMO.


Do I look like the type of person who is going to treat Spurs' players with any level of common sense or impartiality?
 
The problem with Spurs is that they haven't really got any top-class match winners in their side, despite, on paper, having made some good signings.

Maybe Eriksen could be that for them but it remains to be seen. On the other hand, Arsenal's purchase of Ozil is exactly this.