Everton's spending would be quite understandable if they had the crowds and marketing power of a Burnley or Crystal Palace, but as it is you have to ask where has the money gone? Their fans should have switched to axe-murdering rampage mode many years ago.
Moyes: "There's no budget" | Moyes told that he can spend as much as he likes
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Everton's spending would be quite understandable if they had the crowds and marketing power of a Burnley or Crystal Palace, but as it is you have to ask where has the money gone? Their fans should have switched to axe-murdering rampage mode many years ago.
They're skint as far am I was aware.
He knows the score...
I don't doubt he's a quality player with a great record (in Spain). I just think someone like Benteke, not factoring in the fact he has already had a season to adjust to the league, would have been a much much better fit in terms of his style on play.
Ha, bet you're loving his comments after the stick you took in your thread after the derby?
They're about £50m in debt and their wage bill at £60M is 75% of turnover.
Crying out for a sugar Daddy.
Blue scouse think Moyes is their sugar daddy, £27.5M for Fellaini and £23M for Baines in Januray sorts the debt.
not sure if this has been posted but maybe an acceptance/realisation about the current form/ability of one or two of the first teamers
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/24/david-moyes-manchester-united-liverpool
Moyes had not initially planned to hold a press conference to preview Wednesday's Capital One Cup tie against Liverpool but changed his mind after the City defeat. "I think it's important that I took the punches," he explained. "I've taken the punches and I'm happy to do that. Not for a minute did I think this Manchester United job was going to be an easy job. There will be days like we had on Sunday and there might be more of them because we are in a period where there will be transition, there's a new manager for the players and, in turn, there will be new players.
"I don't think it's actually the squad, I think we've got numbers. I think maybe we've got work to do to bring in players not for the squad but to go right into the team. It's not necessarily the squad players we needed, we needed one or two who might have gone in [to the team]. That will happen. But going back to that transfer window, we always said it was going to be a tough one and it was going to take a little bit more time.
"It does mean I may have to take a few more blows, definitely. Maybe even more than that. Maybe all season I have to take a few blows but I knew this was going to be the case because I was taking over from a great manager and it was always going to take time for me to get my own ways and change things round a little bit."
Liverpool have already beaten United this season and Moyes, still missing the injured Robin van Persie, must decide whether to stick to the club's usual policy of using younger players in this competition or fielding a stronger side than he had originally planned to lessen the risk of a bad few days getting any worse.
"I think the team has played well [overall]. If you were being really fair you'd have to say that Manchester United have played well, but that [City] was a poor performance, really. We have not played badly except at Manchester City.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/24/david-moyes-manchester-united-liverpool
Moyes had not initially planned to hold a press conference to preview Wednesday's Capital One Cup tie against Liverpool but changed his mind after the City defeat. "I think it's important that I took the punches," he explained. "I've taken the punches and I'm happy to do that. Not for a minute did I think this Manchester United job was going to be an easy job. There will be days like we had on Sunday and there might be more of them because we are in a period where there will be transition, there's a new manager for the players and, in turn, there will be new players.
"I don't think it's actually the squad, I think we've got numbers. I think maybe we've got work to do to bring in players not for the squad but to go right into the team. It's not necessarily the squad players we needed, we needed one or two who might have gone in [to the team]. That will happen. But going back to that transfer window, we always said it was going to be a tough one and it was going to take a little bit more time.
"It does mean I may have to take a few more blows, definitely. Maybe even more than that. Maybe all season I have to take a few blows but I knew this was going to be the case because I was taking over from a great manager and it was always going to take time for me to get my own ways and change things round a little bit."
Liverpool have already beaten United this season and Moyes, still missing the injured Robin van Persie, must decide whether to stick to the club's usual policy of using younger players in this competition or fielding a stronger side than he had originally planned to lessen the risk of a bad few days getting any worse.
"I think the team has played well [overall]. If you were being really fair you'd have to say that Manchester United have played well, but that [City] was a poor performance, really. We have not played badly except at Manchester City.
Not for long if their wage bill is 75% of revenue. No quick and easy way to sort that without a buyout.
If it means that Young, Anderson, Buttner are sold and Valencia is used as a squad player, then it's all good. The needs are obvious : Replacing Rio (thankfully we have them in our team), Evra, a left winger (taking into consideration that Nani will play on the right), and a couple of midfielders. We need to get rid of the deadwood.
Moyes will be given time, and I'm hopeful about the future of this club as long as we do our transfers early next summer. Personally I won't judge Moyes until summer 2015.
Moyes will be given time, and I'm hopeful about the future of this club as long as we do our transfers early next summer. Personally I won't judge Moyes until summer 2015.
Considering all the strikers Spurs were linked with the past 2-3 years, and finally settling on Saldado because others turned down Spurs, wouldn't that technically consitute a panic buy?
A little bit!I'm more relived then anything else though tbh. It shows that Moyes isn't gonna just accept certain levels of performance, or standard of player like many ABU's have predicted. I personally think he'll be as frustrated as anyone after what happened in the Summer. Its obvious, imo, that he wanted to improve the squad considerably, but was let down by the people doing the deals (basically Woodwood).
Anyone else slightly alarmed at him bandying around the phrase "transition" all of a sudden. Talking about players needing to come straight into the team, and also saying he expects more bumps along the way!
Hope he's giving a more positive team talk tonight!
No.
Nobody turns down Spurs. They all buy into the AVB Project.
I'm more relived then anything else though tbh. It shows that Moyes isn't gonna just accept certain levels of performance, or standard of player like many ABU's have predicted. I personally think he'll be as frustrated as anyone after what happened in the Summer. Its obvious, imo, that he wanted to improve the squad considerably, but was let down by the people doing the deals (basically Woodwood).
Agree with this. The thing that has impressed me most about Moyes so far is his understanding of exactly how much quality we need to add. It's a realistic assessment of the situation and it shows he has the ambition to aim for the highest level. It's a shame he was fecked over by Woodward in the summer, I think Moyes will make some great signings once he gets the chance.
That said, I don't particularly like the way he has expressed this view in public. It's alright for an idiot like me to say the first team isn't good enough, I'd prefer it if the manager kept that opinion to himself though. It also creates a rod for his back in that it builds expectations as to the calibre of player we might sign. He spent all summer saying we were aiming for the very best, then we ended up with Fellaini. Might be better if we aim for the very best but keep quiet about it.
I understand they're skint, what I don't understand is why. Their average gate is higher than Spurs, and how the wage bill is 75% when their squad is one of the thinnest in the league is a puzzle. Even if their marketing and corporate departments are nonexistent they should still have gate and TV money. And there still seem to be a fair few Everton shirts on the streets anyway.
The ownership is either staggeringly incompetent or creaming off shedloads of cash, take your pick.
Their revenue is nowhere near Spurs'. The boost in TV money should bring the wage bill back to an acceptable percentage.
Has that gossip report about us moving in for Bale whilst in negotiations with Madrid been confirmed by any reputable outlet/individual?
We don't know he was - that's become the accepted view because no one likes the idea that our new manager, in whom we necessarily place our trust, screwed things up. It's a lot easier to say, 'he got f****d over by the money guy.'
The truth is out there, but it's not in here. We don't know.
Personally, I find the notion that Woody wilfully frustrated the new manager's plans hard to swallow. Joint responsibility for our transfer strategy is more credible.
The idea of us steaming in and offering £100m for Bale at the last minute is both incredible, and worrying.
Hopefully it's not true, as that's what you call real panic, going in stupidly above the odds, of what was already a stupidly above the odds transfer arranged between Tottenham and Madrid!
Hopefully it's not true, as that's what you call real panic, going in stupidly above the odds, of what was already a stupidly above the odds transfer arranged between Tottenham and Madrid!
With the proficiency shown by Eddie during this summer i actually belive that we made this idiotic move.
I absolutely can't believe we did, for the Glazer factor alone. "He what? £100m, and how many players does he expect to get for it? ONE?!?! Tell the asshole he gets 30m total to spend."
I think it's great, it means we're going to start spending some money.
Hard to believe that was any club that wasn't owned by a sugar daddy! Us no chance we'd do that IMHO.
6 - I stand corrected.
Not for the first time!
It's still our supposed 40m bid for Khedira that worries me the most, that was proper scary.
Although if the manager doesn't come out and say it too, you will be chastised for saying so. Some of us have said it for ages, and were simply pointed in the direction of our recent title wins and told to feck off and support Chelsea or City.
When the manager openly agrees, at least you are reassured that you are not talking nonsense. Not that this is the most important thing of course, just a side note I was pointing out.
Has Fabregas been starting regularly at Barca this season?
don't start this one again, it was a long enough saga in the summer!
Oh god no, not Fabregas again!!
He's practically been their best and most important player so far. Martino is starting him in CM where we've all known for years he would be at his best. He's scoring too.
That ship has well and truly sailed. I still maintain that it always had, to be honest.
I'm surprised Moyes has been so open about wanting first 11 signings, it's always been our policy to go with the squad line. I was never a fan of him getting the job but to truly judge I think he needs to be backed the hilt financially.
A very good way to cheese some of the regular starters off? Or genius management to let them know they need to up their games?
Fergie was saying it before he went anyway.