Moyes So Far!

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Well that's awesome. Yeah, I'm going to feck off because I don't agree with the notion that Mourinho doesn't give young players any chance.


You have no idea what chance young Janujaz would have gotten under Mourinho but if were all on the proven from the past route then yea he wouldn't have given youth a chance so yea do feck off.
Moyes has got this one right I do believe ? Credit where it's due ?
Dicks out had Pep pulled this gem from our ranks :wenger:
 
A lot of credit for starting Januzaj, not only because he is so young and inexperienced, but also because he's done it when things aren't going well and the pressure is mounting.

Good signs today, let's hope for more of the same.
 
Two good away results this week under a lot of pressure. Nae bad.

Time to put a run together. Four home matches in a row coming up. Win those and we're back on track for a good season.
 
You have no idea what chance young Janujaz would have gotten under Mourinho but if were all on the proven from the past route then yea he wouldn't have given youth a chance so yea do feck off.
Moyes has got this one right I do believe ? Credit where it's due ?
Dicks out had Pep pulled this gem from our ranks :wenger:
Neither do you or anyone else and yet people come out and pretend that Januzaj playing in the league would somehow be impossible under any other manager than Moyes. It's ridiculous. I admire Moyes for having the guts to play him as we saw under Ferguson that it's not always that obvious but let's not get over the top with this, plenty of other managers would have given Januzaj a run after his performances when coming on as a sub in previous games, not to mention the dreadful form of our wingers right now.
 
I'll give him credit where it's due. Moyes involving Januzaj this much is pleasantly surprising. A breath of fresh air he's been. Hopefully he signs a new contract and we'll see him here for years to come.
 
Needs a run of good results to settle things down a bit, take some pressure off and increase confidence. Hopefully today was the start, it'd be good to have the negative focus off us for a while.
 
Three home games in a row, followed by an away at Fulham. There's potential for a decent little run there. Then we're off to Sociedad where, if we've beaten them at home, we could more of less qualify with a win. Then we've got Arsenal at home then Cardiff away. I think we're going to be looking fairly good by the end of November-ish.
 
I'll give him credit where it's due. Moyes involving Januzaj this much is pleasantly surprising. A breath of fresh air he's been. Hopefully he signs a new contract and we'll see him here for years to come.

Its also equally surprising and disappointing that Zaha has no involvement what so ever though.
 
Its also equally surprising and disappointing that Zaha has no involvement what so ever though.

Not too surprised if I'm honest. He's behind a lot of players and I can understand why. I think he'll get minutes before the January window but not enough. I think his first appearance for us will ve against Norwich in the league cup.
 
Its also equally surprising and disappointing that Zaha has no involvement what so ever though.


It's really not that surprising if the rumours about Little Miss Moyes are true, even though it should have no bearing on footballing issues.
 
Was this posted before?

http://guardianlv.com/2013/10/man-utd-manager-moyes-struggles-over-daughter-footballer-saga/

Now he is compelled to battle against his daughter’s love interest and Manchester United’s new signing Wilfried Zaha. Moyes even wants to offer Zaha on loan in January. Truly, the Man Utd manager struggles over his daughter-footballer saga. This former Crystal palace winger looks promising enough but something holds Moyes back from keeping him among the final eleven. Statistics showed David Moyes is yet to show some trust in this new signing.

Simply, it’s Lauren Moyes, his daughter. In the last 24 hours, the rumors over Lauren’s romance with Zaha have distracted the focus of Manchester United and Moyes. Daddy Moyes now struggles over daughter-footballer romance. The British tabloids published this new romance story with spice. The paparazzo even noticed the couple spending nights together. So, in spite of being promising, Zaha is giving Moyes an irritation. Moyes is reportedly thinking about loaning him out during the winter transfer window. A number of dark horses like Swansea City, West Bromwich Albion, Stoke City Newcastle and even his former club Crystal Palace are running behind him. It might be best for Zaha to go to another club and carry on the romance with Lauren. The saga may continue.

This daughter-footballer saga reached such an extent that both sides declared they are not involved. Lauren simply denied her love life with Wilfred Zaha while Zaha tweeted that these rumors are “Rumors silly. #childish.” Even the footballer’s manager told the British media that Wilfred is no way involved with Lauren.
Lauren caused her father embarrassment earlier when she asked on twitter why dad couldn’t sign Luis Suarez. It caused quite a controversy and she had to erase the tweet. Now the controversy is perkier. In the Capital One Cup (third tier) match against Liverpool, Moyes advised Zaha to warm up but he didn’t play. Now, it is to be seen whether Wilfried Zaha gets penalized over his relationship with the manager’s daughter. Same wine and new bottle!


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Moyes: 'Zaha son you're slacking. You must show more commitment and your penetration must be more decisive"

Zaha "that's not what she said!!"
 
Why does Rooney keep on picking up training ground inuries and why does RVp look nackered and injured? Is there truth to Moyes caveman training techniques.

Mulensteen made use of collated personal data input by players themselves which improved individual training regimes to augment an overall collective vision. Cristiano Ronaldo and Robin van Persie are confirmed admirers, and beneficiaries, of Meulensteen’s techniques.
 
Neither do you or anyone else and yet people come out and pretend that Januzaj playing in the league would somehow be impossible under any other manager than Moyes. It's ridiculous. I admire Moyes for having the guts to play him as we saw under Ferguson that it's not always that obvious but let's not get over the top with this, plenty of other managers would have given Januzaj a run after his performances when coming on as a sub in previous games, not to mention the dreadful form of our wingers right now.

Mourinho wouldn't have which is who we are talking about.

If you think he would then back it up, because his record implies he would never have played a youth team player with no first team appearances, especially after moving to a new club with the pressure that entails. It's ludicrous, this is Mourinho we're talking about when has he ever done that before?

One of the suggested benefits of Moyes before he signed is that he would give youth a chance, and two months into the season we're already getting the rewards from that. Moyes deserves credit here because he's had a lot of flak since taking over but he has got this one spot on.
 
Three home games in a row, followed by an away at Fulham. There's potential for a decent little run there. Then we're off to Sociedad where, if we've beaten them at home, we could more of less qualify with a win. Then we've got Arsenal at home then Cardiff away. I think we're going to be looking fairly good by the end of November-ish.

Agree with this. Admittedly the hope was that the run of good results should have started against West Brom but there's no reason this can't be a turning point. We just need some consistency.
 
Mourinho wouldn't have which is who we are talking about.

If you think he would then back it up, because his record implies he would never have played a youth team player with no first team appearances, especially after moving to a new club with the pressure that entails. It's ludicrous, this is Mourinho we're talking about when has he ever done that before?

One of the suggested benefits of Moyes before he signed is that he would give youth a chance, and two months into the season we're already getting the rewards from that. Moyes deserves credit here because he's had a lot of flak since taking over but he has got this one spot on.

He gave Balotelli and Santon a chance at Inter when he needed players in these positions. He's not really had a great record developing young players because his projects have been mostly short term but given the situation (Valencia and Young terribly underperforming) he might have taken a look at Januzaj, it's not certain but possible.
 
:lol: I really hope it's one of those websites that lets readers put up articles of their own. No way is anyone getting paid to write that. It reads like something put through Google translate.

It does read like it was not written by someone not writing in their first language. Can't imagine a Las Vegas paper has any genuine insight into the story anyway.
 
He deserves all the credit for involving Januzaj but at the same time we have to start asking questions about Zaha as well. He is the only one who hasn't played a single game. Hopefully it is something personal because skill-wise Zaha more than deserves to get a few subs here and there.
 
That's a factor really. If Young and Valencia had been playing well, Mourinho probably wouldn't play a youth players. If they played the way they have so far this season, I think he'd have to give Januzaj a chance.
However, Moyes appears as though he would play Adnan no matter what, regardless of others form.

He gave Balotelli and Santon a chance at Inter when he needed players in these positions. He's not really had a great record developing young players because his projects have been mostly short term but given the situation (Valencia and Young terribly underperforming) he might have taken a look at Januzaj, it's not certain but possible.
 
I don't see why discussion about Moyes always has to go back to what Mourinho would do in situation x. Its tedious.
 
He gave Balotelli and Santon a chance at Inter when he needed players in these positions. He's not really had a great record developing young players because his projects have been mostly short term but given the situation (Valencia and Young terribly underperforming) he might have taken a look at Januzaj, it's not certain but possible.


He needed a striker and chose not to play Lukaku. Balotelli was different because he'd already established himself in the team. He'd won the game against juve with two great goals in the quarter-final of the Coppa Italia and played in the final the season before.
 
Why does Rooney keep on picking up training ground inuries and why does RVp look nackered and injured? Is there truth to Moyes caveman training techniques.

Mulensteen made use of collated personal data input by players themselves which improved individual training regimes to augment an overall collective vision. Cristiano Ronaldo and Robin van Persie are confirmed admirers, and beneficiaries, of Meulensteen’s techniques.

Yes we never had a ridiculous amount of injuries before Moyes came for about 4 years in a row so he needs to stop running them into the ground.

Van Persie is shagging around too much and all the players think Rooney is a cnut. Case closed
 
Why does Rooney keep on picking up training ground inuries and why does RVp look nackered and injured? Is there truth to Moyes caveman training techniques.

Mulensteen made use of collated personal data input by players themselves which improved individual training regimes to augment an overall collective vision. Cristiano Ronaldo and Robin van Persie are confirmed admirers, and beneficiaries, of Meulensteen’s techniques.


In defence of Moyes, Rooney has never looked fitter and RVP was looking lethargic towards the end of last season too. I just don't think he's a super fit player and is past his physical peak, still obviously top quality mind if he gets his head right.
 
Whilst people are still bumming off Meulensteen I happened to find this little excerpt about him in an article about John Beck in The Guardian:


Each to their own, you might think. René Meulensteen, formerly of Manchester United, has a pretty good reputation throughout the game. He is being tipped to replace Martin Jol if there is a change of manager at Fulham and his absence from Old Trafford has been identified as one of the factors to explain United's erratic start under David Moyes.

Yet Per Nielsen was the captain at Brondby when Meulensteen was manager and tells the story in his autobiography about how the Dutchman used to jump out in front of his players and shout "boo!" to prepare them for the noise of the crowd. Meulensteen changed walls from yellow (Brondby's colours) to green "to give the team hope" and there is another passage that conjures up some delightful memories of Gareth Cheeseman's self-motivational speech, into the bathroom mirror of his Travel Inn, before the Microsell '95 conference.


Meulensteen, according to Nielsen, prepared for a European tie against Frankfurt by standing in front of a whiteboard and asking his players to decide which animal they wanted to be. Nielsen went first, mostly to break the awkward silence, and asked to be a snake. Meulensteen did not like snakes. "Snakes are slow animals, we cannot have snakes in our defence, the Germans will outrun us." So Nielsen suggested a tiger. "That's perfect! Tigers are brave, fast and strong. That is exactly what we need from a captain." By the time he was finished, Meulsensteen had a crocodile, a fox, an elephant, a giraffe and pretty much half of Noah's Ark. "We are smart, fast and clever animals, we cannot lose." Nielsen remembers looking at the board and thinking: "We are sending an entire zoo on the field."

:lol:
 
Sheesh. That's the last time I take the piss out of Brendan.
 
I don't see why discussion about Moyes always has to go back to what Mourinho would do in situation x. Its tedious.

Yep, I agree with you. The fact that one instance of playing a youngsters who Mourinho may or may not have played is being used to vindicate picking him ahead of someone like Mourinho is sort of clutching at straws.

Don't get me wrong, Moyes deserves praise since it worked and it was a very good move from him, but it's not as if he did something absolutely monumental. He simply gave a youngster with a lot of potential a chance when some of our other players in that position have been absolutely woeful. Good move in the end, but not some sort of absolute masterstroke.
 
That's a factor really. If Young and Valencia had been playing well, Mourinho probably wouldn't play a youth players. If they played the way they have so far this season, I think he'd have to give Januzaj a chance.
However, Moyes appears as though he would play Adnan no matter what, regardless of others form.

So you think if all your wingers were in top form, Moyes would still have played Januzaj yesterday? Also assuming he wouldn't have came on at half time last week, if Kagawa was playing well. I don't disagree that Moyes gives youth a chance, but to assume that most managers wouldn't have played Adnan in the circumstances is silly.
 
He had interesting 2nd half ahead of him yesterday and handle it very well.

We just haven't clicked yet as a team, this time last year we've had similar circumstances, going behind then fighting back and this year isn't much different, just the pressure is higher since it's Moyes not Sir Alex anymore.

He's doing fine job giving Januzaj playing time, he has to "wake up" Van Persie and get Rooney even more involved in linking with midfield, as well as tell Vidić to not feck around anymore.
 
To be fair you wanted anyone but Moyes. Anyway what I would be interesting to hear from you, is why the warming for Moyes? Because he's now the manager and we must support the manager regardless, because of SAF recommendation, because you think that we're stucked with him regardless for some time so doing a 'Chelsea fan' like they did for Benitez will result with even worse results or you have changed your opinion about him (you rate him more now which I have seen this phenomenom happening here by a lot of posters)? Personally like you, I never wanted Moyes here and I haven't change my opinion that he shouldn't have become our manager. Anyway, I don't think that I've warmed for him at all, if anything until now he has done exactly what it was predicted by people who didn't want him here.

I wouldn't have had anyone, no, but I did want Martinez above him. I think I've warmed to the idea of having a stable, long-term manager more than Moyes himself or anything he's really done so far. Once he signed, the idea settled and I was forced to look at the positives, things I hadn't really or didn't want to properly considered before, so in a sense it really was my knee-jerk reaction to Fergie's retirement and the type of manager replacing him that changed. It's comforting to think that Moyes can possibly spend a very long time as United manager and we don't have to go through the problems that other clubs have faced after constantly changing theirs. I suppose this is dependent on a faith in Moyes to be able to keep United successful, a faith I have. Again, more than Moyes himself, it's the United is a machine and we are in too good a position all-round to slip into obscurity or Arsenal levels of achievement just because of Moyes, and further more his attitude and mentality seems perfect so far. I'm not talking about game wise, sure there have been a few questionable moments to say the least and he has sounded negative at times after defeats, but I consider all of that a temporary blip/life when walking into Manchester United after Sir Alex. I think with a season behind him and a chance to get to know the players, team and introduce the players we need to buy, will see Moyes a lot stronger than he is now. Couple that with him being around long-term, the ideals and traditions he wants to keep and carry on in the club as well as his overall attitude and how closely it aligns with Fergie, it doesn't really seem like all that much has or will change, which to me is as good as it can get. I am a massive optimist though so it could just be me there.
 
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