Moyes So Far!

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Didn't he apparently lose the dressing room before Christmas? I don't think he's ever had the dressing room. Apart from his son Wayne, of course.

I feel like I'm targeting Rooney right now, I suppose it's because we all need a scapegoat, but I do wonder what he's actually promised Rooney and what information he has given him. And then, what sort of effect that has had on the other players. Mainly those competing with him for spots in the team.
 

He is spot on when he says Liverpool, City and Everton didn't have to get out of second gear to beat us and that we lack energy. There's just no determination or drive in the team now.
 
What the feck? :lol:
http://talksport.com/magazine/featu...david-moyes-would-look-actual-dinosaur-202378

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His head fits in perfectly with that body.
 
Us looking long term and giving him a six-year contract is like me thinking I'm going to marry a woman and planning for kids before I even go out with her. It's so absurd.
 
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It's a good thing many match-going fans are level-headed enough to appreciate Moyes has a huge job on his hands and the lad's commitment to his trade and 'workaholic' attitude see him more likely to succeed than not.

Thankfully, this 'feck Moyes' attitude isn't prevalent in or around Old Trafford and only really confined to keyboard warriors on the Internet. Keep up the good fight, lads: it's most impressive.

Eh?

id love to know where you sit because I guarantee that is not the actual perseption of what's going on the concourses,it's all about moyes and his abilities.just because you don't hear songs or that banner that was flown and booed around Old Trafford ,don't think we 're happy,no one is. Today is another shite performance,things are going to change,fan wise very soon.i was there at everton today,you're insane if you think fans are happy.absolutely oblivious to what people are saying around you. Far,far from it. For what it's worth,I think he is as good as gone after today.
 
Us looking long term and giving him a six-year contract is like me thinking I'm going to marry a woman and planning for kids before I even go out with her. It's so absurd.
If it was Scarlett Johansson maybe you would. We're dating Sarah Jessica Parker.
 
The Moyessic Era - an era in Manchester United's history that saw an immediate yet unimaginable fall from dominance and the implementation of outdated "dino" tactics by David Moyes (hence Moyessic). This era followed the Fergusonian era, a period of cultural groundwork within the club that ultimately led to an extended period of dominance.
 
If it was Scarlett Johansson maybe you would. We're dating Sarah Jessica Parker.
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And we're taking her on gourmet meals and to five star hotels every fecking night, even when she don't put out.
 


He makes a worrying but very valid point in this video. In our last 3 games with City/Pool/Everton, they haven't even come out of 2nd gear to beat us. Typically we just see sides pressing us and putting in a shift to beat us, now we have sunken so low that they sit back knowing we can't do shit, and that their attack will have a 90% chance of being converted into a goal
 
I think the pressure is well and truly on now.

I can't see how any football club would be prepared to put up with this.

It's quite clearly a case of wrong man, wrong job, wrong time. It's not as if it hasn't happened before, there is nothing Moyes is going to be able to do to turn the players round, to turn us round or to convince the board.

He doesn't have the dressing room, he is clearly loosing the media as they have started to ask questions and he isn't delivering answers.
 
I think the pressure is well and truly on now.

I can't see how any football club would be prepared to put up with this.

It's quite clearly a case of wrong man, wrong job, wrong time. It's not as if it hasn't happened before, there is nothing Moyes is going to be able to do to turn the players round, to turn us round or to convince the board.

He doesn't have the dressing room, he is clearly loosing the media as they have started to ask questions and he isn't delivering answers.

The way it's set up right now he is probably going to be replacing the majority of the squad anyway, and if that happens, then in my opinion it is game over.
 
When are the board going to realise that he has lost the fans?

The next step is simple: the word must be spread to the masses going at Old Trafford to display everything they have as their anti-Moyes message. Be it "Moyes Out" shouts, be it banners carried inside the stadium, anything will be fine as long it is very audible and/or highly visible. It's up to the match goers now, especially after the hardcore ones have given their verdict today.
 
Article from Ogden just reads like another narrative piece based on poor results and other external factors.

Nothing from inside the club to suggest he's any closer to the door.
 
The way it's set up right now he is probably going to be replacing the majority of the squad anyway, and if that happens, then in my opinion it is game over.


If he is allowed to stay and spend the money, then we can prepare ourselves to see Man City, Liverpool Chelsea and Arsenal in the top 4 for years to come.
 
More pace in Demichellis.
I was really hoping when I got home today from watching that dross, that he would have been sacked :lol:

It wouldn't be announced while the stock exchange was open so if they want to sack him it would more likely be in the morning our time so before they open over there.

Not sure who takes over for the time being since his coaching staff would also probably be shown the door so I think it's more likely they'll wait until the end of the season.
 
The way it's set up right now he is probably going to be replacing the majority of the squad anyway, and if that happens, then in my opinion it is game over.

Yeah, it makes no sense for us to gut a whole squad for him. Neville at the start of the season said United will change Moyes rather than he change United. Tell you what though, Moyes is doing his damn best.

ITs cheaper for the club I think to get rid of him, pay what it costs for a Klopp/Simeone and give them 60 odd million to spend than giving Moyes 100+million to change the entire squad.
 
One of the things Sir Alex always said was he wanted to leave a good team that would continue to be successful, he was determined for what happened after Sir Matt from happening again and from his words at the end of last season I think he truely believed he had left his sucessor in good shape. But Moyes started planting the seeds in people's minds after just a couple of games into the season that the player's weren't good enough and people have bought into it.

I never believed a word about that bullshit from SAF, if he truely belived what he left here at United was good enough than quite frankly he lost the plot. Which wouldn't come as a surprise to me because his player decisions over the last couple of years: neglecting the midfield, sticking with Anderson and Cleverley, bringing Scholes back while letting go of Pogba, chosing to spend his millions on Berbaflop, Glass Robin and Shinji but letting players like Hazard, Di Maria, Modric, Bale etc all go because there is no value in the market would certainly suggest he lost the plot. Ofcourse this all culminated in the final decision of chosing Moyes as successor of the realm. Mark my words the man is a true legend but the kind of decisions he took in his last years really suggested he had been in this job for a couple of years to long and really started to lose the plot. Also explains why have drifted off so much in europe and his last stand in the PL immediatly eclipsed as soon as he left with Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Everton and Tottenham all overtaking us there aswell. Sorry Moyes is a bad coach, but such a fall down isn't just down to him, it really isn't, all this nonsense about putting in place a team that could always compete with the best is just complete bollocks, the entire team has fallen to pieces immediatly after he retired, all the talk about this winners DNA and a strong backbone as a club, it has all been proven bullshit into practice. Nobody would have predicted such a falldown after Fergie retirement, nobody, whatever kind of work Fergie thinks he did to prevent such a thing from happening clearly failled miserably !

We are overrelient on ageing players, have a weak defence, lack of good cover for the fullbacks, one of the weakest midfields in the world and our attack is very unbalanced, we have so many strikers and number 10's we could fill 3 or 4 teams with them but we lack any decent wingers. The only position that isn't a total shambles is the Goalkeeper, that is it, all the rest are problem areas, we either have to many good players for the same position or not enough of them.

How on earth is that leaving a good team in place ?

Don't get me wrong, Moyes should have walked into that top 4 with these players had he done a decent job but much more you really can't expect given all the issues in the squad. Issues which have been created by a lack of care from Ferguson and would have needed to be resolved even if we would have gotten a manager like Klopp instead of Moyes.
 
That Ogden piece is damning. I always credit him with having good/credible ties to the club.
 
It's a good thing many match-going fans are level-headed enough to appreciate Moyes has a huge job on his hands and the lad's commitment to his trade and 'workaholic' attitude see him more likely to succeed than not.

Thankfully, this 'feck Moyes' attitude isn't prevalent in or around Old Trafford and only really confined to keyboard warriors on the Internet. Keep up the good fight, lads: it's most impressive.
Moyes has been getting stick at OT for months now, your in dream land if you don't believe that. For the first this season I saw parts of our away support turn on him today, didn't expect to see that but he has sucked the life out of us. Concourse was bouncing before the game, two hours later it was like a fecking wake.
 
When are the board going to realise that he has lost the fans?
Well, they would help the board if they makes their feelings known instead of giving him an applause like he has stopped the third world war.

Everybody knows that he has lost the fans for some time now, but as long as they sing his name and applaude him, it won't look like that on OT.
 
It just keeps getting worse and worse doesn't it. Starting to seriously doubt he'll be here next season too, and I haven't before. I find it very difficult to conjure up any sort of hope that things will turn around on his watch. If we could get Klopp or Simeone right now I'd take either of them in a heartbeat.
 
Finally. Good on you, mate. This game has shown the blatant contrast of what manager can do for their teams.
I was blinded by my eternally optimistic view of life and blinded by believing Fergie knew what he was doing in this. Its mostly the way that we are playing thats got to me. I cannot believe that its possible for us to have become this weak.
 
He will be sacked in my opinion, at the end of the season. The board are probably in negotiations with somebody, Woodward apparently is an admirer of Klopp therefore he will try to tempt him but upon failure of that I think it's Louis van Gaal.

Klopp, the coach, and Dortmund have many admirers. Agreeing that Klopp is “a genius”, Manchester United’s chief executive Ed Woodward said: “Their wage bill is lower than half the clubs in the Premier League, but he’s really got a lot out of them.”

Woodward, like many, is an admirer of the German football model and Bayern Munich, in particular. “They do a lot of things extremely well,” he said.

“They built a stadium with the right financing structure. They’ve paid a lot of their debt down. They bought out Munich 1860’s stadium shares and increased their revenues that way.

They have a lot of sponsorship deals and they’ve kept their ticket prices at a reasonable level.

“All of that has fed into an incredibly successful team on the pitch. It has taken years to build, but three Champions League finals in four years …”





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I've cracked. He must be sacked. Preferably tonight. Was underwhelmed when he arrived, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. There are too many managers in the Premier league alone that look much better than him this season.

He should get lost and take Fellaini with him.
 
If he's still here next season, how many of our players will make transfer requests? Realistically speaking.

Would the board be ready to keep him if many of the players ask to leave?
 
He will be sacked in my opinion, at the end of the season. The board are probably in negotiations with somebody, Woodward apparently is an admirer of Klopp therefore he will try to tempt him but upon failure of that I think it's Louis van Gaal.

I'd fecking come if on the last day of season it was announced that Moyes is leaving and we are hiring Klopp. Van Gaal would do too. At this point Pulis as well.
 
He will be sacked in my opinion, at the end of the season. The board are probably in negotiations with somebody, Woodward apparently is an admirer of Klopp therefore he will try to tempt him but upon failure of that I think it's Louis van Gaal.
How do you know that Woodward is an admirer of Klopp? (Not bashing, genuine question)
 
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Back of tomorrows Sun going with Moyes on the Brink too.
David Mcdonnell-Daily Mirrors Manchester football correspondent going with the same.
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They only have doubts? It took them 9 months to just have doubts? Going by that rate, we should expect them to consider sacking him in about 3 years, with them finally deciding to sack him in 5 years.
 
I'd fecking come if on the last day of season it was announced that Moyes is leaving and we are hiring Klopp. Van Gaal would do too. At this point Pulis as well.

No, just no. You never ask for Pulis.
 
How do you know that Woodward is an admirer of Klopp? (Not bashing, genuine question)

He agreed Klopp was a 'genius'.

Klopp, the coach, and Dortmund have many admirers. Agreeing that Klopp is “a genius”, Manchester United’s chief executive Ed Woodward said: “Their wage bill is lower than half the clubs in the Premier League, but he’s really got a lot out of them.”

Woodward, like many, is an admirer of the German football model and Bayern Munich, in particular. “They do a lot of things extremely well,” he said.

“They built a stadium with the right financing structure. They’ve paid a lot of their debt down. They bought out Munich 1860’s stadium shares and increased their revenues that way.

They have a lot of sponsorship deals and they’ve kept their ticket prices at a reasonable level.

“All of that has fed into an incredibly successful team on the pitch. It has taken years to build, but three Champions League finals in four years …”





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