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Lose to Everton next week and we cant finish ahead of them. We can only equal their points total if we win our last four and they lose them all.
http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/latest/moyes-50-failings-in-50-games/
Decent list of Moyes for United up until now... Obviously not all of it is serious of course, but it makes for some grim reading and frankly a little unbelievable that somebody could be that bad when you put it all in one list. All this in less then a year too!
some team that moyesy built there isnt itEverton now have their best points total in PL era.
Luxury!That our performances is marginally better than Crystal fecking Palace under David Moyes. With the reigning Champions. It's not a poor season. It could only dream of being poor. This season had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before it went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when it got home, its Dad and its mother would kill it and dance about on its graves singing Hallelujah.
some team that moyesy built there isnt it
Only in Moyes' (and his fans') world: Great squad finishes 7th every year, sh*t squad wins the title (or almost does) every year.some team that moyesy built there isnt it
From another thread:
Palace have 33 points since Pulis took over at the end of November. United have 36. David Moyes. What a manager.
Also, Palace beat Chelsea.
Edit: counting is hard.
Oh Sir Alex, leaving such a poor team that even a great manager can only take them to 7th... or something?Moyes certainly thinks so.
"He is doing a very good job," said Moyes. "He has very good players there. I always told them they could play without a manager because they are very well organised.
"But Roberto is doing a really good job keeping it going.
He's a humble man, Moyesy.
Moyes certainly thinks so.
"He is doing a very good job," said Moyes. "He has very good players there. I always told them they could play without a manager because they are very well organised.
"But Roberto is doing a really good job keeping it going.
He's a humble man, Moyesy.
When did he say that?
I seem to recall it coming from the press conference prior to the Everton match in December. It may have come from an interview in the build-up to the match rather than the actual press conference. (A quick Google search reveals the quotes were from 3rd Dec. Everton match was on the 4th Dec)
15 - 19http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/latest/moyes-50-failings-in-50-games/
Decent list of Moyes for United up until now... Obviously not all of it is serious of course, but it makes for some grim reading and frankly a little unbelievable that somebody could be that bad when you put it all in one list. All this in less then a year too!
Yeah but Martinez was in charge of a side who somehow managed to avoid relegation every year and was generally a bit shit, while Everton have been a top half team for the last 10 years (which Moyes turned them into). Martinez's style has always been more suited to higher positioned teams rather then teams struggling to stay in the league. It's more offensive and so of course will leave them weaker at the back. Even so, he did the one thing Moyes managed to never do at Everton and that is win a cup, something the fans will always remember. Pretty sure every Everton fan would rather go a year finishing in 15th or something, if it means they won a cup. This year is different as they might make the champions league but the point remains. Moyes did a good solid job there but he took them as far as possible and they needed to get rid of him to move on.His comments before the last Everton game could be taken as a subtle slight towards Martinez work there, but to be fair in a way he has a point, I think even the most staunch Moyes hater can see Martinez great football this year is being built on the solid backbone Moyes drilled into the team, thats not to say Martinez hasn't done fantastic, he's improved the team and upped their play in way Moyes was never capeable of achieving, but I'd like to see what will happen once their back 5 start to age/get injuries and the team loses a bit of Moyes defensive solidity before really judging if Martinez is worthy of a top 4 job.
For all we sit and marvle at the job Martinez has done this year we shouldn't forget we reguarly turned over Martinez Wigan side every season, and often by quite a number of goals,while Moyes Everton always made a scrap of it, even if we would triumph still 90% of the time you felt it was always going to be a tough test against staunch resistance.
Are you saying Sir Alex left a team in complete disarray that can't defend to save their lives?His comments before the last Everton game could be taken as a subtle slight towards Martinez work there, but to be fair in a way he has a point, I think even the most staunch Moyes hater can see Martinez great football this year is being built on the solid backbone Moyes drilled into the team, thats not to say Martinez hasn't done fantastic, he's improved the team and upped their play in way Moyes was never capeable of achieving, but I'd like to see what will happen once their back 5 start to age/get injuries and the team loses a bit of Moyes defensive solidity before really judging if Martinez is worthy of a top 4 job.
For all we sit and marvle at the job Martinez has done this year we shouldn't forget we reguarly turned over Martinez Wigan side every season, and often by quite a number of goals,while Moyes Everton always made a scrap of it, even if we would triumph still 90% of the time you felt it was always going to be a tough test against staunch resistance.
It's funny how the apologists are so quick to praise the foundation Moyes built at Everton which at the same time means they're being very critical of what Sir Alex has done...Im not trying to talk Moyes up boys calm down probably didn't word it properly, he did a good job rebuilding their squad over the first few years and stabalized them but thats about where it ends, he's out of his depth here, been utterly shambolic since day 1 and has no business as our manager, my point was soley on Martinez and his ever growing Messiah status.
It's funny how the apologists are so quick to praise the foundation Moyes built at Everton which at the same time means they're being very critical of what Sir Alex has done...
Pressure is on them though so any nerves will be on their side. Being so close to getting 4th could hurt them mentality.I am deeply worried about the Everton game. I think we could get stuffed.
Martinez has his lads playing with flair and, crucially, confidence. We are underdogs heading into this and that sickens me.
It's almost like they read from the Book of Sir Alex the line "Stand by the new manager", yet have convinced themselves the rest of what Sir Alex said is all fiction.Well I'm sure they'd argue Sir Alex did leave him a an ageing footballing relic of an infrastructure, but fear not Moyey's on the case with some Ipads, and Sir Alex did lump him with quite the piss poor squad... didn't he?, even the papers are telling us so! anyone would have struggled this year saddled this lot, even Sir Alex...
This man is turning United into a joke yet some people are so firmly behind him it reminds be of the cult in The Following.
It's worse than the scousers were with the fat one. At least their delusion was based on a champions league win. Moyes has done nothing remotely decent for us and he still gets blind faith.
Everton are 9pts ahead of us with 5 games to go, guess it's because they have a better squad than ours...
To be fair to them, the fat one is a much better manger than Moyes will ever be.
And they got that world class striker Lukaku on loan, poor Moyes having to make do with the likes of RVP and Rooney.Its because Moyes left a great team as opposed to the irresponsible guy who left United as erm champions.
Well, only 10% or so of the Caf are in the apologists club.Infinitely better, that's the depressing thing. We mocked them for blindly following him and now here we are siding up to an even more defeatist manager with none of the redeeming qualities.
You could at least tell that Benitez always believed in himself. Moyes just looks lost and the odd time he comes out with comments that, on paper, could be construed as confident I simply don't believe him.
I honestly can't believe I'm going to say this, but given the choice between Moyes and Rafa, I'd take Rafa (God that felt horrible writing that down.)To be fair to them, the fat one is a much better manger than Moyes will ever be.
I honestly can't believe I'm going to say this, but given the choice between Moyes and Rafa, I'd take Rafa (God that felt horrible writing that down.)
YeH. That's what people would normally think, when Everton under Martinez doing it this seasonsome team that moyesy built there isnt it
Me too...
some team that moyesy built there isnt it