All comes down to how patient the board are prepared to be with Moyes.
Moyes So Far!
- Thread starter RedTillI'mDead
- Start date
- Status
if I were to put money on the outcome...I would say he will most definitely be still manager start of the new season. He will be given money to spend on the players he needs and go for the title. He seems to have begun to turn things around slowly....the next 5 games will give an indication how much...especially the Everton match.
EDIT:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/darren-fletcher-new-signings-can-6946987?
EDIT:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/darren-fletcher-new-signings-can-6946987?
I can see where people are coming from and I think the fact that - for the first time this season - Moyes was actually asked about his job security tells us something. I do agree, the board will now have to make a decision, but my only issue is, will it be a straight up at the end of the year come to a decision, or would it have already been decided? The fact that Moyes has been roaming around scouting players tells me he's got the summer. I may be wrong, though. I hope I am.
He's going to be scouting players, he's not going to stop doing his job. If he's going go get sacked it's going to happen as soon as we can't get top 4.
Thing is though if he's sacked now it means all the targets we've presumably been tapping up will be pointless again and the new man won't have much time to get his ones in. Christ, it's catch 22.
I guess. But it's just this scenario in my head that he's told the board, "I have my targets, I've done my research, you've seen me, give me the summer to get them." Maybe this season as a whole has just turned me into a complete pessimist.
Indeed. It's the only cards Moyes has.
It's probably up to Moyes to convince the board he's still the man for the job, if he can spoof the suits on what's gone wrong and how he can repair the disastrous season, he can buy himself another season, unfortunately.
That's no reason to keep the wrong man in the job.
Also if it's a really top player the club want to get regardless, we still can. I doubt that top player is longing to play under only Moyes and he would be good enough to be in the next managers plans anyway.
Is Moyes going to take his iPads with him and tippex over the notes in his bunker?
To be honest, I can't imagine him doing that particularly successfully.
And the matter of fact is, the right manager coming in with the correct tactics and game plan to get the best out of the crop we have > an incorrect manager who can bring in those he's already made advances for.
Will the board see it like that? The media seem to be duped with this crazed idea that the team needs severe re-establishing.
Will the board see it like that? The media seem to be duped with this crazed idea that the team needs severe re-establishing.
Looks like he's survived the UCL exit and thus the non qualification for next season.
I think it's just best we get used to the fact that he will be here next season and hope for the best.
I think it's just best we get used to the fact that he will be here next season and hope for the best.
It's unlikely that either he did the talking himself, or that they're only coming for him.
They won't want to join a team seemingly in crisis of course. On the other hand a higher profile manager may help people still deciding.
It does now.
They might be top players but the new man might not like them, for whatever reason. They won't both have the identical targets. Saying this, I think if we got Klopp or Van Gaal in, we'd only need the odd player anyway to get us back into the top 4, and then spend, spend, spend the following summer.
If we sack him soon and get a new manager in with a couple of games left, it gives the new guy a chance to assess what he needs to do in the summer. Plus moyes seems to be moving for the right type of players so we could always just pass his scouting list to the new guy.
Exactly. We are Manchester fecking United and we won't be in the CL because we are giving a trainee manager time to cut his teeth. It's like Barcelona or RM not being in it, absurd.
This is the moment you knew we were dead and buried.
Yup, and this is at a point where we needed another goal to win it any way if we didn't want extra time.
Who are we going to be able to get before the season's over though? No-one's going to talk until after the season. All the big guns that we would want to target, anyway.
People saying that Rooney shouldn't have been taken off, despite Moyes openly admitting he could barely kick the ball 
You can tell the people with the agenda, and it aint the Moyes out brigade.
You can tell the people with the agenda, and it aint the Moyes out brigade.
The
Clearly they are going to have to throw money at it and try and entice top players by paying over the odds. I'm not sure how many new quality players we can attract given the current circumstances, with a club of the size and reputation of United, out of Europe and whose manager is under a cloud and whose coaching staff is nothing to get over excited about. Then again, a new man of stature in world football, who has a track record of success at the top level and who can promise better things to come in the shorter term, might just be able to attract the players needed.
True. Alternatively, we could confirm the new manager before hand (without letting anyone know) so he could do his research early without officially starting until the summer. I mean teams like Dortmund don't have anything to play for anymore this season, so having an agreement with Klopp now could work.
Really? strange to say the least didn't know that i assumed he was on the bench.
I think he will be a useful player eventually, tough season for anyone to settle into this side.
I seriously doubt if we got a top manager in, that they would need a few months to identify targets.
Most good managers know pretty much from day one in a new job which players they want, i reckon most keep track of players they would like to buy.
And thats not even taking into account if these players we are supposedly tapping up are good players then most managers would be happy with them anyway.
The Mirror said he was injured and hence didnt travel.
Ah right that would maybe explain it then, didn't hear about the injury must have happened just before we left for munich.
Seems like he basically wanted to say "What a brilliant ride it's been in this first year in the CL. We gave a good account of ourselves and can good proud to not lose too badly to a team like Bayern."
In a way, he's lucky he won't be in the CL for a while - the fans might find out he'll be thinking the same in succeeding years too after going out to lesser teams.
In a way, he's lucky he won't be in the CL for a while - the fans might find out he'll be thinking the same in succeeding years too after going out to lesser teams.
Fletcher: Next year we won't just think about getting in to the Champions League, we will think about winning the league and getting into Europe that way
Moyes: I have found everyone at the club very good, and my focus is to get a side that gets us back in the Champions League and that is the main objective
He just is not in touch with our level. Hes spent too long at a mid table club.
Moyes: I have found everyone at the club very good, and my focus is to get a side that gets us back in the Champions League and that is the main objective
He just is not in touch with our level. Hes spent too long at a mid table club.
So, players are going to turn down United because we might have a better manager?
We already have the players to get into the top 4.
Everton will probably fu-king make it this season.
Surely you don't think their squad's superior?
Liverpool's squad is nothing special and they'll probably win the league for fu-k's sake.
Both Fletcher and Jones have come out talking about winning the title next year, Moyes has spoken about top 4.
He's just not the right man. The sooner the club accept that, the better.
Chill dude.
His right though. This season might have Liverpool as title winners. They would have deserved but this is arguably the worse team to ever win it.
Sorry, but that is pure nonsense. Think for a second in the opposite direction: where does it say the players who were tapped up would not express an even greater interest in joining United should a man of reputation like Van Gaal or Klopp come in to replace Moyes? I mean: there are a number of players who want to play for the best teams, but also for a good coach because he (the player) knows that will help winning trophies.
Not every manager in the world want the exact same players, however good they may or may not be. That is the problem I'm suggesting, you can see that right?
I agree with you, it's also why it's such a massive gamble letting Moyes buy these players after a disastrous first season.
It won't work. Never was it going to either. As I said this morning, the debate on Moyes should be centred around his priorities as a manager - fundamentally he holds on to what he has. He is not prepared to risk anything. He's the first Utd manager we've seen who isn't a naturally attack minded individual. Is this what we want? The simple answer is no. So, take the emotion of results away and ask yourself that question because Moyes is not going to change.
Sad, isn't it? At best, I fear we'll be a more talented version of Arsenal under Moyes.
- Status