Another odd interview.
Moyes So Far!
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Close to 30mil and not here to play every game? 
Be interesting to see if he recognizes Mata-Kagawa for what it is instead of being awash in relief that they're winning some games for him.
Doubt he will, but one can speculate.
Doubt he will, but one can speculate.
Once a Dinosaur always a Dinosaur. Especially when he surrounds himself with 'Yes men' like Round, Lumsden and Pip.
We've stumbled across something completely out of necessity and it will last all of a few games. The mans an absolute buffoon. Even a good, exciting performance yesterday is ruined by his idiotic comments post match.
We've stumbled across something completely out of necessity and it will last all of a few games. The mans an absolute buffoon. Even a good, exciting performance yesterday is ruined by his idiotic comments post match.
Oh my God what was thinking saying that ? £27m on a player he knew would be a squad player (going by this statement ), who does he think he is working for ? Fecking PSG !
I'm resigned to the fact that he'll be here next season, and we'll be fifth or sixth in the league (and well out of the title race) by Christmas.
That gung-ho at OT comment is just inexplicable.
remarkable comments.
But he is right on one thing. If he scores the winner against Bayern all will be forgiven!!
He didn't even mention about Fellaini scoring the winner against Bayern. Just the opener. If he scores the opener and then just vanishes the whole game with Bayern players waltzing past him, like last time, and outscoring us, I would not care less about Fellaini's opener.
yeah, I tidied his comments up a little, to make more sense.
This confirms my earlier fears about Fellaini, and the role he's going to play next season.
At least the "He wasn’t brought in to play in every single game." still hints that we're going to sign a midfielder in the Summer, but I'm pretty sure now we aren't getting two midfielders.
Andy Mitten reported as early as June he wanted to bring 2 players with him from Everton. Fellaini was always in our plans.
Forget the winner thing, he didn't even specify for whom he's going to score the opener.
That's such an odd interview and I only hope he's doing his part to puff up Fellaini's confidence. He doesn't fit our playing style by any means, he's far too slow and can't move the ball quickly as a central midfielder from defense to keep the tempo of our attacks intact. Its one thing if his passing range was something extraordinary to justify giving him time on the ball but he really isn't.
So far his best contributions have come in defending set pieces, which he does very well.
So far his best contributions have come in defending set pieces, which he does very well.
Fellaini will get sent off before he scores. It's only a matter of time before one of these elbows going under the radar gets picked up. Even if he does look to see where the ref is before he throws it the linesman will see.
Should we miraculously get through to the next round I wouldn't mind him throwing an elbow that wasn't picked up in the game but then after he is given a 10 game ban from the european football.
Should we miraculously get through to the next round I wouldn't mind him throwing an elbow that wasn't picked up in the game but then after he is given a 10 game ban from the european football.
OMG!! So all Moyey has said about Fellaini is he was close to scoring a goal and hopefully will score one soon??? So that's why he was bought??? What about his bloody awful midfield performances? But hey, who cares as long as he has a great chest control! Moyes really is a dinosaur manager!!
I'm surprised no Moyesaurus photoshops have popped up yet. Or have they.
£27.5 million for a player you don't think is good enough to play every game? Moyes is seriously crazy. We might have more money than Everton but that's just foolishness. And what exactly has been so special about what he has done with the ball on his chest? Has it improved us?
I'm gutted that he's even considering Fellaini for the Bayern game. Completely deluded if he thinks he's been anything other than poor overall in his first season.
I'm gutted that he's even considering Fellaini for the Bayern game. Completely deluded if he thinks he's been anything other than poor overall in his first season.
The comment about his "chest" work is fecking hilarious, he plays in fecking midfield!
Moyes really needs to keep his mouth shut.
Moyes really needs to keep his mouth shut.
That chest comment is awful and typically Moyes. Small time and clutching at straws. If a jouno was feeling like a dig at Davie he could use the headline 'Moyes praises Fellaini's chest work as midfielder grows into United role', which would basically epitomise how the stature of the club has retracted hilariously under the managership of Moyes.
I was a bit positive after yesterday's performance, but after reading that interview I am kind of depressed again! Does he actually realise he has wasted a huge amount of money + wages on Fellaini, a player "who was brought in to play certain games"?
I mean we haven't won the fecking lottery where he can just go on and waste such amount of money! SAF, the club and our players have done a brilliant job over the years and thanks to them we are currently in a position where we can afford to be without CL for one season if it has to be. But Mr Moyes has not recognised this, instead he has been on record blaming those players and the team SAF left behind! Exact those ppl who have ensured in the past that the club will be in a position where he can spend money! And he does what? Wastes it on a player when even he knows he won't be useful for every game! You can spend 10 mil for that, but not bloody 27,5 mil!!! And the worst thing is that he is not even going to bring back that money unless we qualify for next season's CL!
I mean we haven't won the fecking lottery where he can just go on and waste such amount of money! SAF, the club and our players have done a brilliant job over the years and thanks to them we are currently in a position where we can afford to be without CL for one season if it has to be. But Mr Moyes has not recognised this, instead he has been on record blaming those players and the team SAF left behind! Exact those ppl who have ensured in the past that the club will be in a position where he can spend money! And he does what? Wastes it on a player when even he knows he won't be useful for every game! You can spend 10 mil for that, but not bloody 27,5 mil!!! And the worst thing is that he is not even going to bring back that money unless we qualify for next season's CL!
Are these the same people who let SAF just give Moyes the job without an interview or seeing any other candidates? What evidence is there from this season he is capable of getting something out of the team? And sorry if you think people who don't accept complete ineptitude are moaning. Should we just sit back and watch our club go down the toilet?
Knowledge or not, the board can't be stupid enough to realise his appointment has been a total failure. Let's look at the facts - in one season, from champions to out of the top 4 and now behind his former club to 6th/7th, a club with have much less resources and profile than we do. If that isn't a total failure, what do you think constitutes one? Bottom 3?
And you think RVP, the top scorer in the league last season, is past it based on his performance for a clueless manager and we should sell him? Ridiculous idea.
There was one with his head shopped onto the Jurassic Park t-rex recently. I blame Richard Attenborough.
How is it that in literally every phrase he utters to the press , whether it be in a post-match interview or a press conference, he manages to say something which he shouldn't? People on here do keep saying that everyone is just over analysing and nitpicking over what he says but if you just stop and think for a second, he really does come out with some ridiculously negative and stupid stuff that a manager of a top club should not be saying. By the end of the season I'm expecting to see a thread on here with the 'top 50 stupidest things ' he has said this year
Manager in trying to build up player's confidence shocker. That "chest" comment is fecking stupid though, no question about it.
Fellaini really shouldn't start against Bayern though, considering his performance in the first game.
Fellaini really shouldn't start against Bayern though, considering his performance in the first game.
Moyes is a chest man. Fair play.
I get the impression RVP thinks he's the main man at the club now that Fergie's gone. How he was allowed to bugger off to Holland to do his rehab with the national team is beyond me. He didnt even want to stay in Manchester & support his team mates while he recuperated. Thats not the attitude of someone thats part of the team. He's been poor this season (by his own standards) & has mouthed off when on international duty or being interviewed by the dutch press, so if he leaves i couldnt give a shite to be honest.. He's not committed to United!
What Moyes says on the press shouldn't be a major factor in judging his actual ability as a manager, but the stuff he comes up as a manager of United is just so jarring and hard to overlook.
Fellaini is a distraction for Bayern though - he's a distraction against any team (including us). You need to ask the Bayern players if he made any real difference to the way they played to be honest.
He's itchin to get sent off by the looks of it too, so he'll most likely be a liability in Munich. I'd drop him to the bench & maybe put Jones & Fletch alongside Carrick, with Kagawa, Welbeck & Rooney last third. Or Kagawa in midfield replacing Fletch, with Adnan on the right - swappin with Danny...
Reckon he'll pretty much stick with the same side though, but with Evra at LB & Jones / Fletch replacing giggsy...
Its a tough one, just hope Moyes makes the right decision!
Provide me the evidence no other candidates were considered and that Moyes was given the job without determining whether he was suitable. You have made the claim SAF just gave Moyes the job so you must surely have information to hand it was as simple and straight forward as that.
We know only what happens on the pitch. We do not know what is happening behind the scenes and that information is every bit as valuable, if not moreso. Clearly you have been observing the workings of the club, so enlighten us.
Constructive criticism is expected however many on here will go out of there way to turn positives into negatives just to hate on him. That I simply cannot understand.
Don't sit back, do something about it then. Sack Moyes but when you realise you can't then you have no choice but to.
If the board understand he has not the ability to achieve the objectives next season then he will be sacked. However, temporary failure does not mean success is impossible. Great discoveries have been made after failing several times beforehand, now Moyes is not in a job where he can continue failing but should the board have confidence he can achieve the objectives next season they might be willing to overlook one season. This will be there decision to make and I will support it.
The reality is the board will have key information that will allow them to determine what probability he has of success next season, information we do not. You seem to suggest you do however, so those in cuckoo land might also have that information but I don't.
I think you are the ridiculous one. Where have I said RVP is past it? It is most ridiculous to put words in my mouth.
I made crystal clear if RVP wants to stay then fine however if he wants to leave then let him, there is no value in having a unhappy player causing problems. However, you must be of the opinion we should have unhappy footballers causing problems in the squad, otherwise you would not dispute my point. Ironically, your idea is ridiculous.
This is what you dispute:
Your dream Manchester United would consist of unhappy players kept against their will. And yet you criticise David Moyes, your methods are worse.
The worst thing I took from the Fellaini comments is that he will be playing on Wednesday.
I'd rather Fellaini playing than Cleverly thats for sure...
I saw this Fellaini-chestwork thing on twitter and thought it had to be a made up quote... until I came into this thread... bemused.
Second that. But Cleverley didn't feature against Newcastle so maybe Moyes was resting him for Bayern..? I don't think Fellaini's covered himself in an ounce of glory this season and he may not make the step up to play for us (he still needs time), but I'd definitely take him over Cleverley any day. There are limits...
Glad you agree. He's useless & it pains me to say that about our own, but there's no other way of avoidin it - for me personally anyway. He was on the bench at Newcastle though Mers & Moyes does want to win all the remaining leagues games, so Fellaini, Kagawa, Evra all started aswell, which i thought was a stupid gamble that paid off.
Fellaini has been shite all season, bar a couple of games the past 2 months or so - where he played better & the opposition were distracted by him. I think the same thing can happen in Munich. Bayern will piss themselves if they see Cleverly's name on the startin team sheet. They still wont know what to make of Fellaini - the same way we are still baffling ourselves about him.
Most definitely he will cost us next season with red cards, once you are at united you're under a microscope even something you have got away with for years becomes big news. To me it looked like the newcastle players were on to the ref every time Fellaini lifted his arm claiming elbow, he can expect more of that.
Look at young dived for years at villa no one gave a feck, came to united all of a sudden its big news.
He really does himself no favours with some of the stuff he comes out with in these pressers, some of it is comedy gold, as someone above said all the guff he spouts doesn't necessarily prove hes a bad manager but it does give the impression he doesn't have a fecking clue what he's talking about sometimes.
The club should hire someone to sit beside him let moyes take the questions then pass his answer to the other person who can translate it into common sense for the press.
The club should hire someone to sit beside him let moyes take the questions then pass his answer to the other person who can translate it into common sense for the press.
Who among us seriously see us beating Bayern at their house, with or without Fellaini? We had a much better squad and they a much better squad now than a few season ago, yet they beat us then.
It's an outrageous insult to the legacy Robbo, Keano, Becks and Scholesey that Fellaini is on this squad, but his inclusion in the side won't consign us to defeat to Bayern.
If Fellaini puts in a masterful performance and scores the match-winner I will consider sniffing my own log droppings. No way will I eat it!
It's an outrageous insult to the legacy Robbo, Keano, Becks and Scholesey that Fellaini is on this squad, but his inclusion in the side won't consign us to defeat to Bayern.
If Fellaini puts in a masterful performance and scores the match-winner I will consider sniffing my own log droppings. No way will I eat it!
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