Lallana is an attacking wide midfielder - irrespective of their qualities / age, Carrick and Cleverley aren't.
Moyes So Far!
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Lallana is an attacking wide midfielder - irrespective of their qualities / age, Carrick and Cleverley aren't.
FFS, April fools or not that's not on
Hehe
Posters have been banned for less. As if anyone would believe it anyway.
Yeah, I was kinda surprised anyone did
To be fair, Modric has hardly won anything, save a few Croatian leagues.
From today's Times. Notice the absence of the words, "try" and "hope" in Pep's comments.
Guardiola chose his words carefully. There was respect for Moyes and a warning to his players that they “will lose” their Champions League quarter-final against United if they play over the two legs like they did in the 3-3 draw at home to Hoffenheim on Saturday, but he was also pragmatic. Dismissing as “impossible” the notion that Ferguson should shoulder blame for United’s woes this term, Guardiola insisted that managing a big club meant “you have to win”. Anything else, he seemed to be saying, was immaterial.
“In the big clubs when you don’t win, always you are in trouble,” he said. “You have to look forward and win games.
Guardiola chose his words carefully. There was respect for Moyes and a warning to his players that they “will lose” their Champions League quarter-final against United if they play over the two legs like they did in the 3-3 draw at home to Hoffenheim on Saturday, but he was also pragmatic. Dismissing as “impossible” the notion that Ferguson should shoulder blame for United’s woes this term, Guardiola insisted that managing a big club meant “you have to win”. Anything else, he seemed to be saying, was immaterial.
“In the big clubs when you don’t win, always you are in trouble,” he said. “You have to look forward and win games.
The more I think about the more it becomes insane to even consider keeping Moyes on.
Difference between a winner like Guardiola and a loser like Moyes. The former insists on the need to win as being imperative, the latter settles for 'trying' and making life difficult for the opposition.
To be honest what bothers me the most is not the "trying" or "hoping" part, but the part where he repeatedly says: "Well, it's a long project", "It's a long looong journey", "They understand we're looking looooong term here"... Gives me the impression that we're not going to win anytime soon, and he still finds that acceptable. He seem to want 5 years or so like Fergie before he would be expected to win anything, which is madness.
Not saying he said that literally, but that's the impression I get sometimes from his statements.
Its definitely frustrating. With our rivals rapidly improving what we don't have is time to accommodate an inept manager by giving him time to instill his apparent footballing genius on us....eventually.
These are all interesting observations. In a way I think the whole mentality when Moyes was appointed was contradictory and led to trouble. One one hand Moyes is told that he's here for the long term, and fans must stick by him when things get rough, while on the other hand he's told United are an elite team that must compete for top honors. I'm not sure why the message wasn't simple: you're here to win, and nothing else will be tolerated. I just don't understand it.
When Moyes got the call from Fergie, he was out shopping with his wife. He worried about going over to his house in just jeans and tee shirt, and he himself said he felt the blood drain from his face when Fergie told him he was the next United manager.
So he was obviously nervous and I think SAF probably reassured him with words like, don't worry you'll be given plenty of time to build your team. SAF wouldnt even mention that you still have to finish in the top four whilst you're doing it, that would be a given.
You only have to look at all the pictures of Moyes when he first took over. It was as though he still couldn't believe his luck and he thought he had all the time in the world. He didn't even start the job till 1 July. It's a case of mis interpretation and under estimation of the size of the task. He hardly hit the ground running did he.
So he was obviously nervous and I think SAF probably reassured him with words like, don't worry you'll be given plenty of time to build your team. SAF wouldnt even mention that you still have to finish in the top four whilst you're doing it, that would be a given.
You only have to look at all the pictures of Moyes when he first took over. It was as though he still couldn't believe his luck and he thought he had all the time in the world. He didn't even start the job till 1 July. It's a case of mis interpretation and under estimation of the size of the task. He hardly hit the ground running did he.
Modric has won feck all in his career to be fair.
Excuse no 99913456?
"He has had a year to get ready for the Bayern job," Moyes said.
"He has done incredibly well with them, he has taken over the European champions but his record with them has been very good."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...eves-manchester-united-can-beat-bayern-munich
"He has had a year to get ready for the Bayern job," Moyes said.
"He has done incredibly well with them, he has taken over the European champions but his record with them has been very good."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...eves-manchester-united-can-beat-bayern-munich
The more I think about it, the more clear it is to me that Moyes is basically the managerial Phil Neville.
Except, instead of finding his level after washing out at Manchester, he got signed from Everton as the star man to take you forwards.
His most recent comment
Is like watching Phil Neville do stepovers. they even share the same gormless expression:
I also genuinely believes that up until some time around october last year, Neville wanted to be like Moyes in all ways. Now, it's more of a secret dream.
Except, instead of finding his level after washing out at Manchester, he got signed from Everton as the star man to take you forwards.
His most recent comment
"I am really looking forward to coming up against [Bayern manager] Pep Guardiola. It is the first time I have done but I have no doubt I will be doing it many times in the future."
Is like watching Phil Neville do stepovers. they even share the same gormless expression:
I also genuinely believes that up until some time around october last year, Neville wanted to be like Moyes in all ways. Now, it's more of a secret dream.
Anyone see Robben's comments about Pep? And how he's made them better, how good tactically he is, and how he demands the best from his players? It was like he was describing the polar opposite of what Moyes is. Its going to be utterly depressing watching Guardiola in the opposing dug out tonight, seeing the standard of manager we should have. Then looking back to David fecking Moyes sitting there, arms folded, looking utterly clueless.
Also, his comments regarding Guardiola and how easy he's had it were beyond pathetic. He talks like he's inherited a club full of shit. When in actual facts he's inherited the reigning champions, the team that's won 5 of the last 7 Premier League titles. A team that last year looked the equal to Madrid. A team thats reached the CL final 3 times in the last 6 years. And on top of that he's spent £60 million + to improve the squad, plus had the luxury of Januzaj. His excuses are pathetic and he's an absolute joke of a manager.
Any sympathy I had for him has been completely wiped away with his recent comments and excuses. He's a joke.
Also, his comments regarding Guardiola and how easy he's had it were beyond pathetic. He talks like he's inherited a club full of shit. When in actual facts he's inherited the reigning champions, the team that's won 5 of the last 7 Premier League titles. A team that last year looked the equal to Madrid. A team thats reached the CL final 3 times in the last 6 years. And on top of that he's spent £60 million + to improve the squad, plus had the luxury of Januzaj. His excuses are pathetic and he's an absolute joke of a manager.
Any sympathy I had for him has been completely wiped away with his recent comments and excuses. He's a joke.
His genuine belief that this tie with Bayern will not be his last encounter with Guardiola, I felt sorry for him there. He obviously has some self confidence, which I suppose is necessary.
Well, he was long linked with management jobs in Germany...best of luck to him on that front.
To be honest, I was expecting more like: "I hope that I can meet him many times in the future" or "I'll try to make sure it will be one of many encounters to come..." or something along those lines.
He was more defiant and confident though, which makes me believe it's not his normal nature that was speaking there, but he's just trying to give everybody the impression that he won't be going any time soon.
May have over-analyzed it but that's my take.
Aren't we playing Bayern in that ridiculous pre-season tournament thing in the USA?
Also lets not rule out that Guardiola might manage in england at some point, im sure whoever he takes over will probably play stoke, west brom etc..
Reads more like naivety than confidence. Same way he came in wanting to take his time on transfers and changes, as if the Man Utd machine would roll on its own while he settled in.
We might have to cancel that due to Europa league matches.
The fact that that's only a "might" indicates why Moyes shouldn't even be allowed to play Guardiola once.
Perhaps he was advised the team was in good standing by the Board, you never know.
Plus it won't be his last encounter with Guardiola he's a young manager, Moyes having self belief is good, obviously Guardiola is the worlds best manager and that's not hard to say, for some reason Midfielders always make great managers, they understand passing and movement better than any plus they like high intensity, for some reason managers who were defenders in their playing career never seem as good.
Sir Alex was a forward so he always had an attacking mentality, fit for a club like United, Pep was a defensive midfielder, but a midfielder that understood the game, so he puts pressing play on his team and keeping the ball, as-well as being creative.
David Moyes was a centre-back he's defensive minded, I do think where you spent your career as a player has a huge impact on your managerial style.
I still don't know if Moyes should be sacked if Spurs finish ahead of us
Or
If Tiny Tim should be sacked if we finish ahead of them.
Mind f**k
Not trying to be smart ass or anything, but how could he have been completely unaware of manchester united and our players/squad before Jult 1st?
I doubt the board had to advise him about anything regarding our players in my opinion.
They both should be sacked, regardless of who finishes higher.
Sherwood was always a stand-in manager until the end of the season... it was never going to be any different.
Taking Buttman off and putting a close to red card Valencia to defend Robben/Ribery .Fecking genius
Buttner was injured. This thread really collects the morons.
David Moyes has matched Pep Guardiola tactically.
Never thought I'd write that fecking sentence.
Never thought I'd write that fecking sentence.
In the circumstances, he's done really well tonight. Technically it's a bad result, but so low are our expectations and so bad have our results at home been that I can't help but be quite pleased with it. The second half performance particularly, which seemed to stem from some actual tactical instruction.
The Young substitution annoyed the feck out of me though tbf. He still seems to have no idea how to positively impact games with substitutions. But it seems harsh to have a pop at him tonight because he's done alright.
The Young substitution annoyed the feck out of me though tbf. He still seems to have no idea how to positively impact games with substitutions. But it seems harsh to have a pop at him tonight because he's done alright.
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Is this supposed to be a joke?
Anyway.. people will find reasons to blame Moyes for everything, but today was pretty much what I'd have expected under Fergie..
This is how we lined up against Madrid. as
Far from being back.. but I have no complaints about this performance. Makeshift backline.. poor form.. against bayern..
Did fine
Buttner was injured. This thread really collects the morons.
missed that he got injured .
oh and feck you
I still don't think he's the right man to lead us forward, and he's failed at most of the real challenges this season, but he deserves a lot of credit tonight. Set up well to keep it compact and hit Bayern on the break, and on another night might have got a win.
Opinion hasn't changed.
Good at stopping other teams play. But not so great setting up teams to win.
Good at stopping other teams play. But not so great setting up teams to win.
Fair fecks to him; he's done well tonight.
Not a fan of the man, and don't want him here, but credit where it's due - we're in contention, no matter what people would like say to the contrary, and we've not embarrassed ourselves, either.
Not a fan of the man, and don't want him here, but credit where it's due - we're in contention, no matter what people would like say to the contrary, and we've not embarrassed ourselves, either.
Very impressive by him tonight. He seems to flourish in that underdog role.
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