Moyes So Far!

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Beachryan said:
So you know what's going to happen?

- Klopp is going to be available in the summer, because he's sick of the Bayernliga's monopoly and is ready for a change
- United will stick with Moyes
- Klopp will go to maybe Barca, or more likely a not quite huge club, perhaps even a Spurs type
- United will continue to stink it out, finally getting rid of Moyes at Christmas when we're 10th
- Klopp will be a revelation wherever he goes, and release quotes how he was ready to join Shinji but United had faith in Moyes
- Ferguson will continue to say Moyes is the right choice and that's he's never wrong. As was Djemba-Djemba. And Obertan. And Bebe.

The CAF will become a suicide-watch forum.
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This is unfortunately quite likely given the United Way (TM) and the way the club conducted itself last summer. :(
 
Nate Dogg said:
Was listening to Talkshite earlier today and Alan Brazil mentioned that there is a rumour doing the rounds that Moyes played a video to the team of Everton on the art of defending, in which Rio responded with "what has jagielka won" and it then kicked off big time when rio said "what have you won boss".
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"What have you won, Boss?" I'd love if that was true. Imagine the silence in the room :lol:.
 
Nate Dogg said:
Was listening to Talkshite earlier today and Alan Brazil mentioned that there is a rumour doing the rounds that Moyes played a video to the team of Everton on the art of defending, in which Rio responded with "what has jagielka won" and it then kicked off big time when rio said "what have you won boss".
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:lol:

Rio's the man.
 
"What does a man need to do to live?" - Boss, shortly before leaving

#gollum
#myprecious
 
It'd be great if it was true, but I doubt it is. When Moyes is eventually gone there will be so many myths attached to his tenor here. We'll tell our grandchildren tales of Moyes presenting the squad with Leon Osman DVDs.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
It'd be great if it was true, but I doubt it is. When Moyes is eventually gone there will be so many myths attached to his tenor here. We'll tell our grandchildren tales of Moyes presenting the squad with Leon Osman DVDs.
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I think there will be a lot of material for plenty of books after his sacking. Rio will probably get one out in the summer to stick the knife in.
 
Cal? said:
"The Community Shield!!!"

If Rio did say that, he's even more of a legend than he already is.
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I could definitely see him saying it as the guy has balls of steel. Whether he actually said it or not is another thing though.
 
So apparantly the other week Moyes had Van Persie watching videos of Jelavic so he can learn the type of movement required to be a success in Moyes' system. Van Persie said "I've won a trophy" or something. Moyes looked absolutely furious and wild eyed, or grinned. It's not sure which.


It's fecking easy this.
 
Moyes just said his position is unchanged and that the club support his long term vision. Of course he wouldn't tell the media the truth however I do fear this to be the case, he also keeps commenting on the great support from the Old Trafford fans.

If people want him out, if they want Ferguson and Woodward to decide a change might be best then they need to make some noise.

That said, I'm happy with Moyes on the basis he signs a great coach and tactician as his assistant, somebody he can delegate to, somebody just like Queiroz.

I'm interested to know whether people think we could get top four with a world class coach and tactician as Moyes number two. Although I doubt anybody on that level wants the position other than Queiroz, he might feel sorry for us.
 
Man Utd boss says: 'My future has not changed. I have a great job and know exactly the direction I want to go in'
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Does anyone have an idea what direction that is?
 
Credit to Moyes. I got really spoilt with Fergie's winning ways. So much so that beating 5-10 teams on the trot was like meh - what new ? But if and when we start doing that again I'll be dancing on the streets. And all hell will break loose when we win our next PL title. Can't wait for the good times to roll back again.
 
Mauzindark said:
Credit to Moyes. I got really spoilt with Fergie's winning ways. So much so that beating 5-10 teams on the trot was like meh - what new ? But if and when we start doing that again I'll be dancing on the streets. And all hell will break loose when we win our next PL title. Can't wait for the good times to roll back again.
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We were spoilt, there's no doubt about that, but what's happening in 2014 alone is relegation form, and overall we could be lucky to even finish 7th place in the league. Moyes wasn't even expected to win a trophy this season, a lot of fans would have been happy with a 4th place finish. That expectation isn't spoilt IMO, it's perfectly fair given the resources available, plus the two players he's brought in.
 
I think it's over for David Moyes at Manchester United. I believe many other people at the club feel that, too.

In the days and hours since the Liverpool defeat on Sunday, I think even Moyes has come to believe his chance of building a new dynasty at the Old Trafford giants has gone.

I only have anecdotal evidence for that - and Moyes insisted at his Tuesday press conference that nothing about his future had changed - so it will have to remain as opinion, not fact.

I hope there is still time for events to prove me wrong.

I hope that United beat Olympiakos tomorrow and progress to the Champions League quarter-finals.

I hope that, somehow, there can still be some dramatic turnaround and that Moyes survives, then prospers.

The evidence, though, suggests that some time between now and the start of next season, the club will fire the man they entrusted to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson.

Through all United's troubles this season, many have stuck to the idea that the club would give Moyes time, as they once gave Ferguson time.

It was a nice idea. It appealed to the romantic in all of us. It appealed to the belief that United were a club who would do things right.

United, many maintained, were an island of old-fashioned, long-term thinking in football.

They had given Moyes a six-year contract. It was a statement of loyalty and they would abide by it. They would accept that whoever followed Ferguson had a hell of a job on his hands and they would give him at least 18 months to start getting it right.

That feeling has gone now.

Its last glimmer was snuffed out with the manner of defeat to Liverpool.

This is not 1986.

The Glazers have bills to pay. Big bills. Other elite clubs - Chelsea, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona - would have acted already.

The Glazers think they have been patient. Now patience has run out.

When Moyes goes, he will be lampooned as the man who blew Ferguson's inheritance, the man who could not handle the step up.

The reality is that he is not to blame for what has happened at United this season - most of their fans would accept that there are much wider issues at play here.

Ferguson acted as an apologist for the Glazers for too long. He accepted under-investment in the club's playing resources. He was a genius as a man-manager. He got by.

But the fact is that until Moyes bought Marouane Fellaini last summer, United had not recruited a genuine central midfielder since the summer of 2007, when Ferguson signed Owen Hargreaves and Anderson.

The playing staff stagnated. United remained reliant on Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs for way too long. Three of the starting back four bequeathed to Moyes will depart the club this summer, too.

So Moyes was not just given the task of following the most successful manager in English football history, he was presented with a massive rebuilding job, too - and paired with a rookie chief executive, Ed Woodward, to help him do it.

Anyone who thinks that is a recipe for a smooth transition is living in a fantasy world.

It is easy to say now, but the succession to Ferguson was poorly handled by the club. They were in thrall to Sir Alex to such an extent that there appeared to have been precious little planning for the future.

Surely Ferguson was at the club long enough to have been able to establish the kind of boot room culture that served Liverpool so well.

Why was Gary Neville allowed to leave for Sky TV so easily? Why was Ryan Giggs not promoted earlier? Why was Roy Keane allowed to become an enemy of the club rather than one of its greatest assets?

Ferguson's autocratic style prevented the assimilation of new blood and the proper grooming of a successor.

Moyes was given just one summer to stage a revolution. He never made it beyond the first of the barricades.

And now, as United wrestle with the idea of abandoning their principles by firing their boss after eight months, one fact stands out: Moyes never had a chance.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/its-over-david-moyes-manchester-3257483
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The wind certainly does seem to be changing.

As for the bolded bit, no club looks after its own like we do. How many ex-players are involved in some capacity. Neville was allowed to leave because he wanted to. Ferguson wanted him to stay. We didn't promote Giggs because he was still an important player for us. Keane became an enemy of the club because he doesn't like our manager and that's what he does. And even if the were sitting around braiding each other's fanny hair, what would Roy 'One good season as a manager' Keane bring to the fold that our dozens of coaches couldn't?

Utter bollocks.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
That must be bollocks. Moyes can't be presenting the league champions with Everton videos, surely bollocks. As unimaginative and cautious a manager Moyes is, he's not retarded. Is he?
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I hope to god he's not that bad. That must count as robbery if he is? Robbing us of his wages every week.
 
Brophs said:
The wind certainly does seem to be changing.

As for the bolded bit, no club looks after its own like we do. How many ex-players are involved in some capacity. Neville was allowed to leave because he wanted to. Ferguson wanted him to stay. We didn't promote Giggs because he was still an important player for us. Keane became an enemy of the club because he doesn't like our manager and that's what he does. And even if the were sitting around braiding each other's fanny hair, what would Roy 'One good season as a manager' Keane bring to the fold that our dozens of coaches couldn't?

Utter bollocks.
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Of course you may be right but its not lost on many fans that SAF did not sign one "strong" character post Keane. SAF was obsessed with power and Keane challenged that.
 
Nate Dogg said:
Was listening to Talkshite earlier today and Alan Brazil mentioned that there is a rumour doing the rounds that Moyes played a video to the team of Everton on the art of defending, in which Rio responded with "what has jagielka won" and it then kicked off big time when rio said "what have you won boss".
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More shite.
 
Crackers said:
I hope to god he's not that bad. That must count as robbery if he is? Robbing us of his wages every week.
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Hmmm. Maybe instead of us paying him severance fees after firing him we should sue him for unprecedented damage dealt to the club.
 
LonelyFire said:
Of course you may be right but its not lost on many fans that SAF did not sign one "strong" character post Keane. SAF was obsessed with power and Keane challenged that.
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More to do with the fact football's full of fannies now. Where are the strong characters? It Fergie could have found a right pain in the arse who was as good as Keane, he'd have bought him. The more likely reason is that the top, Keane-level players cost the sort of money that Fergie wouldn't consider spending.
 
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