Moyes So Far!
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Maybe this is why one of them Glazer boys was at the Liverpool game. To make a final judgement on Moyes. Just hoping he comes to the same conclusion as 90 % of United fans.
Nah, simply a big game tart like a lot of us.
Based on last summer, can you even imagine a Woodward new manager pursuit?
He'll be after Guardiola and Mourinho still!
The thought of Woodward being in charge of our next manager hunt has made me somewhat...
David Moyes might not be the 'Chosen One' at Old Trafford for much longer
Andy Mitten reckons the Moyes banner could come down soon.
Jose said that AFTER United gave the job to Moyes, what do you expect him to say?
"I really wanted the United job, but they turned me down so I'll make do with Chelsea."?
You are confident that he would have excepted the United job if offered?
Aren't you trying too hard to prove that you were right in 2010,and since, because you are in love with Jose?
No one can say with certainty, but most sources had him down as wanting the job.
Do you want me to find my quote about Moyes?
Should never have been unfurled in the first place IMO. Incredibly tacky and any new guy should have to earn the right to have a banner at Stretford. Looks even worse in hindsight.
Which sources? Gaitan and Garay should be our players right now if most sources are to be believed. They are still in Portugal.
No, I bow to your superior judgement.
When Moyes talks about the fans and their support, all I can think of is that scene in the Simpsons....
Yano, that one where Mr.Burns win the car at the baseball game and he just smiles and waves at the fans despite the fact they hate him and are throwing pretzels at his new car?
Yano, that one where Mr.Burns win the car at the baseball game and he just smiles and waves at the fans despite the fact they hate him and are throwing pretzels at his new car?
Mourinho's performance at Old Trafford was the most obvious "look at me" I've ever seen. He wanted that job. It's the only job that made sense until the Portugal one.
I don't really have an issue with the banner. It illustrated unwavering support for Moyes. It will be damning should it come down however, a symbolic act as the piece suggests.
and they would be if Moyes didn't pull the plug on the deals...Which sources? Gaitan and Garay should be our players right now if most sources are to be believed. They are still in Portugal.
No, I bow to your superior judgement.
Tufty/SEF's getting dogs abuse on Twitter about that banner right now. He's basically saying now isn't the time to take it down, the priority is supporting the team for the game tomorrow, but some lads are threatening to take it down by force if it's not taken down by consent.
Whether it actually happens tomorrow or after we get pummelled by City, the statement will be made and the press will make something of it, guaranteed.
I've got to say, looking at the pictures and videos of the team in training, the smiles across faces, Rooney/RVP having a laugh together - can understand why Moyes says in training they look great and can also understand why he might seem a bit befuddled when in games he doesn't get the same.
At the end of the day, he needs to get the team ready for the games and behind the scenes it seems to be going well but, then for some reason when the players step on the pitch, all that is lost. Then the responsibility likes heavily on the players. Sure the tactics may not be what we want but, the effort from the players has to come from the players and the manager and fans are not getting that.
Don't get me wrong, I still don't see things in our general play or the tactical decisions that warrant his stay - just saying I can sympathize when the players are not translating their training on to the pitch, that it leaves Moyes in a what the hell else can I do state.
At the end of the day, he needs to get the team ready for the games and behind the scenes it seems to be going well but, then for some reason when the players step on the pitch, all that is lost. Then the responsibility likes heavily on the players. Sure the tactics may not be what we want but, the effort from the players has to come from the players and the manager and fans are not getting that.
Don't get me wrong, I still don't see things in our general play or the tactical decisions that warrant his stay - just saying I can sympathize when the players are not translating their training on to the pitch, that it leaves Moyes in a what the hell else can I do state.
Everything was lined up perfectly for it to happen, then came Sir Bobby with his idealogy.
It's all conjecture, mate. And something we will never know the answer to.
Christ, the banner really could play an iconic and integral role in the Moyes narrative.
The same guy who was making emergency plane rides around Europe last season to buy nobody? Yeh, lets take his advice on who is a good football manager considering his extensive backround and experience in
Indeed. It's just the impression he gave me that night.
WTF ? He didn't decide upon unrealistic transfer targets.. Everyone except Moyes knew we wouldn't get Cesc.. Woody is an excellent CEO caught in a difficult time for the club.
Mourinho has the arrogance, and most importantly, the quality and pedigree required for the job. As that brilliant fan stated so wonderfully well, Mourinho would have come in and said with confidence and swagger, 'I'm here.' Not this scared, negative mentality Moyes exudes. Moyes knows he's out of his depth, and his miasma of mediocrity has infected the entire squad.
They need to realise it so much that SAF's judgement becomes irrelevant. I'm not sure h
Being an accountant, I imagine he'll look for good results and percentages.
I think Glazer was at the game because on Saturday there was a big annual review conference for all the major sponsors, most of whom stayed on for the match next day. I should imagine that there were some pertinent questions asked at that conference, not least about how much exposure the various products were going to get next season and where.Maybe this is why one of them Glazer boys was at the Liverpool game. To make a final judgement on Moyes. Just hoping he comes to the same conclusion as 90 % of United fans.
I dont think its a question of what Fergie says at all, its a question of how long those sponsors will put up with a product that is becoming an international joke. The United people who's jobs depend on our success will have the loudest voice on Moyes future. As will the shareholders.
Really? You got the quotes handy, mate?
So what you are saying is that Moyes shouldn't even bother trying to sign top players if it looks like we mightn't get them? Aim low and he wont be disappointed ?
You don't think that perhaps the Cesc crowd gave an indication that they would be open to a move just to put pressure on Barca to start him ? That might not of been a possibility ? Just plain old Moyes looking for a player the club couldn't possibly attain ?
Woody isn't completely innocent party in last years summer transfer fiasco no matter how much you want to lay all the blame on Moyes . .
Are you serious ? You think an accountant is a better judgement of a managers credentials then the greatest manager of all time ? Ok then . .
No I don't. But if Woodward is going to look for a manager, it's going to be from his background(who's got the best results in terms of statistics), than his actual football knowledge.
While I do agree with you, it would be a tad ironic now if we sack Fergie's boy and hire Klopp and become successful again ha
Woordward was being interviewed by Mitten when he started salivating over Klopp. Can't recall the exact podcast number but I certainly remember another reference to his fanboyism in UWS podcast #71.
EDIT : Mitten said Ed Woodward called Jurgen Klopp a genius in #71 (34 mins+ into podcast).
Cool, cheers.
since when have managers done a good job of picking managers though
Seriously, I do not know where you get any confidence in Woodwards potential ability to find a capable replacement. The one thing levelled at Moyes is that he had no experience in winning trophies, but he had at least extensive management experience. What in gods name would make anybody be confident that an accountant is competent or qualified to find a suitable top coach?
I don't have confidence in his potential ability, I'm just stating a fact. He probably knows he lacks the knowledge needed to hire a successful coach, but he's an intelligent man. I imagine if he's in charge, he'll find someone to help with it. That's all.
I'm not saying he's better at all, I'm just stating how he'd go about hiring someone.
SAF isn't just your average run of the mill manager now is he ?
But that's not important, what exactly makes Woodward anyway qualified to pick one?
Fine. I removed my vote in the End of Season poll.
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@BarneyLFC , dumbs, et al. Go ahead, let's see what backing Moyes has without our support.
Still, M.O.N.G.
Yeah, it was his idea to try signing a player who didn't want to leave from a club who didn't wabt to sell.
He should have done something, like keeping Rosell as hostage until he sold us Cesc (who would have gone to Arsenal anyway), bomb Camp Nou or convince Putin to invade Catalonia. Easy!
If he really is a fan of Klopp, then hopefully he makes a move for him (although unlikely that Klopp will come here). Said it before - which rightfully got me a critique from Tomalonge (it was still the time of Moyes being awesome) in the Caf - Klopp has already won more trophies than Moyes will ever will. Playing an exciting brand of football that Moyes can't even dream. If we get Klopp because of Woody, I would love him.
Whether we stick with moyes or sack him there will be uncertainty so I dont see the potential risk in sacking him as a reason to not sack him. You can ask relevant questions on both sides of the coin. If we do sack him though, we're under big pressure to get the next appointment especially considering the fact that the Glazers arguably fecked up replacing the Tampa Bay coach they fired
But do you not think if it was as simple as crunching numbers that any accountant or anybody who plays football manager could just as easily draw up a reasonable shopping list of managers?
It doesnt matter how good SAF is, there is an obvious flaw in letting a manager who is stepping down pick his successor. Can you not see that?
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