Thing is, we'll probably beat West Ham, going by our one step forward - two steps back philosophy.
Moyes So Far!
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Thing is, we'll probably beat West Ham, going by our one step forward - two steps back philosophy.
I was sick watching the game yesterday. As soon as it kicked off I was shaking, haven't enjoyed anything regarding David Moyes' Manchester United.
What will make a difference, or do you mean they will keep him until the summer anyway, then make a decision?
I think the difference has already been made. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see the board making any decision based on the final games of the season that are effectively meaningless. If any decision is taken, it's probably been taken already whether that's sticking by him or getting rid. Nothing will hinge on whether we finish 8th or 6th
It may make sense to wait until it is mathematically impossible for us to get top 4, as some of the other posters have mentioned, since that could possibly trigger a clause, granted one was inserted in his contract, and we can let him go without doling out a lot of compensation. If we gave him a 6 year deal without any failsafes, we deserve to be fecked for the naiveity.
Even Rachel Riley has given up the 'mathematically possible' game when it comes to calculating our chances of a top 4 finish.
I don't even have any hope anymore. If we were to play Barcelona or even Atletico in the CL I wouldn't be hoping that we win, I'd be hoping that we can keep the numbers down - and the worst thing Moyes would be the exact same.
They just tweeted senior players ripped into Moyes and coaching staff.
Senior player or players? If it's just one player then I can see it being either rvp or rio. If it's a few of them maybe rvp, rio, giggs.
Could this be it?
If there has indeed been a serious bust-up i think Moyes could be on the verge of walking by his own accord [he's a proud man and would rather this didn't become too undignified IMO], he'll give it one more against Olympiakos but without a turnaround there...
If there has indeed been a serious bust-up i think Moyes could be on the verge of walking by his own accord [he's a proud man and would rather this didn't become too undignified IMO], he'll give it one more against Olympiakos but without a turnaround there...
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If the players are at each others throats as well then we have serious problems. It will be hard to bounce back from this, whatever happens.
Dressing room bust-ups happen all the time, we lost 3-0 at home to Liverpool, I'd be more worried if they all just sat in silence and said nothing. If it's just one player sounding off then it's a nothing story. And how reliable is Red Issue? That Jagielka nonsense sounded like something someone on here would make up after saying Moyes wants to sign Osman and make us Everton.
There has been a few bust ups already. You just haven't heard about them. Rafael was one, RVP too.
Player bust up, you'd hope for after a home smashing to the bitter rivals!
But players calling Moyes clueless and suchlike? That will be huge, and very possibly a sign of the end.
But players calling Moyes clueless and suchlike? That will be huge, and very possibly a sign of the end.
We've heard so many similar reports this season. This is nothing new. The player's Moyes has fallen out with will be sold in the summer.
Exactly. He will keep the players that aren't opposed to him and the rest will go anyway and get replaced by whoever he wishes to buy.
I know I shouldn't but I can't help it.
Moyes: Robin i need a private word with you
RVP: Ok boss. Erm dont worry i am at yr side. I will do my best to
Moyes: yeah, Please focus on our discussion ok.?
Rvp: ok boss
Moyes: you are a decent player and a great finisher yet id like u to watch some videos. Pls analyze them, learn from the player in question,so you can become better.
RVP: ok gaffer. Btw whose the player in question, Cruyff, Maradona, Pele?
Moyes: Achinebe
RVP: are u serious?
Moyes: why are u so defensive? First Rio, then you. Geez rebuilding this squad will be tougher then i think.
Rvp: ffs
Moyes: im off to SAF
Rvp; why?
Moyes: im off to handle this book to him. Its written by howard kendall and may teach him one thing or two about football
That would fit "Clueless" and Coaching staff "Useless" could be true.
According to who? Red Issue? I'll ask again, how reliable are Red Issue? I have no doubt there have been bust-ups, just like there will have been bust-ups in every dressing room in the Country, it's football, it's quite an emotional sport, and this team is seriously under-performing. However, I find the idea that only one fanzine knows exactly what was said in a private dressing room quite remarkable, and seriously doubt that's the case, especially considering the word "clueless" is rather like what many fans are saying. Oh, and they had a go at the staff too, again, just like what many fans are doing. It's almost like they've invented a story that the fans would lap up. It's phenomenal, four papers say we're after player X, nobody believes it, one fanzine says David Moyes was called clueless, everyone takes it as fact. Agendas, amazing things.
Red Issue are talking bollocks here I think. Would our players really call the likes of Phil Neville and Ryan Giggs 'useless'? No chance. It's a little odd that they're going with the whole 'clueless' thing again with Moyes. It seems they're trying to make one big story out of two separate events, which probably aren't true anyway.
His position is surely untenable now if this bust up is true?
Also means there's absolutely no chance we turn the tie around against Olympiakos. We're not going from the players telling Moyes he's shit to winning 4-0 win in the Champions League a few days later.
Also means there's absolutely no chance we turn the tie around against Olympiakos. We're not going from the players telling Moyes he's shit to winning 4-0 win in the Champions League a few days later.
A couple of replies I laughed at. Along the lines if he's got bigger problems than tactics he's completely fecked.
You mean, having substitutes strip down to their kit - jog around for 5 minutes by the dug-out, before either a) bringing them on or b) changing his mind and telling them to sit back down - isn't proof of decisiveness?!
Maybe not Giggs but I can see them saying it to Neville.
Why?
This story is Red Issue, not Mitten. Didn't Mitten say Rooney had refused to travel for the friendly in Stockholm in the summer, that he wasn't injured like the club said, and that he was definitely out of the club? And I don't remember him talking about specific bust-ups, he just said Rafael and RVP are unhappy, I'm sure most of the squad are unhappy, we've lost 7/14 games this year.
Media outlets preying on gullibility again
Moyes is too defensive in my opinion, Kevin Sheedy who worked under him should know all about him. And he has said that Everton now have a manager who wants to win games. What should that tell us about Moyes?
His days are numbered- he will go if we lose on Wednesday-i think he will go anyway- he has lost the dressing room completley.
Mitten reported it on his own UWS forum. Believe what you will. Obviously we don't know except for hearsay, but these people have reported things before the media picked up on it. They have their sources.
Giggs is a legend of world football. At his peak, he was feared by all of Serie A and is quite possibly, the only player on a par with Bobby Charlton in terms of legendary status at this club. He is respected throughout world football.
I know, they've been trotting out the "players are all crap" line for moths now.
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