Moyes So Far!

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Even Brentden shows what a feckwit moyes is.

Regarding moyes saying we were underdogs 'at lfc I wouldn't say that even if we were bottom of the league' he's absolutely right.

But as long as we keep 'trying' eh?
 
Slevs said:
Please let this be true, he's financially comfortable enough to live without a job for a long time, just let us sack him please.
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Even though we lost 3-0 to Liverpool it would suddenly turn into one of the happiest days of my life.
 
Someone said:
The one thing that makes me thing he's clearly the wrong man for the job is the lack of confidence that runs through our team like a plague, we haven't played with confidence at any point this season.
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How can the players have confidence when he spouts things like the above??
"It's difficult to explain it'
"I don't know what else to to win" - after Fulham matc

feck that
 
Twisted_Woody said:
He speaks:

Manchester United manager David Moyes, speaking to BBC Sport: "I thought there was not a great deal in it at half time. We had just started to play a bit better towards the end of the first half.

"It was important we came out in the second half and got a goal back but instead we gave one away and that made it very difficult for us.

"I don't think I had even got seated in the dugout when we gave it away. We were going for it but it always left us open to a counter."

On the penalties: "It is better we don't talk about any of the. Some were penalties, some weren't."

On Wednesday's Champions League last-16 second leg tie with Olympiakos: "The support was phenomenal today and if they give us that again we will have a great chance on Wednesday.

On trying to finish fourth: "It looks like we are long way off it, we are well aware of that but we are going to keep fighting."
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Reading that trash just makes me more angry, treats the fans like idiots and doesn't say anything worthwhile. Please just resign.
 
I keep turning over to SSN just in the hope. Shall I wait until the Spurs/Arsenal game has finished?
 
lilcurt said:
Reading that trash just makes me more angry, treats the fans like idiots and doesn't say anything worthwhile. Please just resign.
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what would have been the ideal interview from your point of view. short of him resigning, what would you like the man utd manager to say in the interview? genuinely interested.
 
Kill 'em all said:


Rocket science.
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EVERY, and i mean EVERY, defeat he says its difficult to explain. Without fail its words to that effect.

Sorry Moyes but if you cant analyse a game and give a summary after it, it shows how tactically inept you are. I bet he watched the first 30 minutes and probably thought "we're doing well here!"
 
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It's a great point, we're Manchester United!

We should be talking about ourselves and what we're capable of, letting the opposition know they're in for a torrid time. Instead Moyes wants to brown noise the scouse and make us sound like middle table fodder (I see the irony).
 
SER19 said:
what would have been the ideal interview from your point of view. short of him resigning, what would you like the man utd manager to say in the interview? genuinely interested.
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I'd like him to come out and show a bit of anger and desire. To front up that things aren't right and explain in his view what actually went wrong.

Instead of that we get the same recycled quotes each week of non-consequential bull****.
 
The best thing for him would be to resign, he's not turning this around and the longer it goes the worse he will look. He may as well continue till the summer then come out and admit his failings.
 
lilcurt said:
I'd like him to come out and show a bit of anger and desire. To front up that things aren't right and explain in his view what actually went wrong.

Instead of that we get the same recycled quotes each week of non-consequential bull****.
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but specifically. come out and criticse the players he thought let him down? come out and say i think we lost becuase rodgers out thought me and i might not be up to it?

personally, i think youre getting way too wound up about what are almost always generic interviews.
 
lilcurt said:
It's a great point, we're Manchester United!

We should be talking about ourselves and what we're capable of, letting the opposition know they're in for a torrid time. Instead Moyes wants to brown noise the scouse and make us sound like middle table fodder (I see the irony).
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Is it a great point? I do think Moyes' negativity (on the pitch and his attitude about things) is an issue but Mourinho's been saying for months that his side can't win the league. The difference is that his side doesn't look utterly woeful tactically and are motivated and confident, we need good additions in the summer but we have a lot of good players who looked clueless, dispirited and disinterested today.
 
What bothered me today was his cowardice. Van Persie or Rooney should have been hooked at half time. That was the decision we could all see, yet he hasn't the bollocks to make it.

And when he did eventually make changes, in the 76th minute or whatever it was, he subbed Januzaj who was our best, most threatening attacker at that point. Of course, it's easy to take off 19 year old Januzaj, that'll get no headlines, hence he did it. It was the act of a coward.
 
It becomes clear more and more with each game that the reason we are so awful is because Moyes has absolutely no experience when it comes to playing a way that will not only attempt to cut other teams open through the middle but will also make holding onto possession in midfield more likely.....we were the home team and liverpool easily carved us open and dominated us in midfield.....we had plenty of possession in midfield but we never ever looked like carving liverpool open apart from one or two moments in the game.....

Moyes methods are out of date and inferior. Brendan Rodgers is in a different league to Moyes altogether as he learned his trade under Mourinho and is trained in the arts of modern continental football that all the big Europeans teams play nowadays.

The only solution to all of this is that Moyes will eventually get the boot. When that will happen - My guess is that we will have him for another year of torture up until Christmas time as that's when Fergie will feel he was given a fair chance at least....So it's looking like we are going to be a mid table team that will get destroyed by bigger teams for another 18 months at least until we appoint a proper modern thinking coach in the summer of 2015
 
lilcurt said:
I'd like him to come out and show a bit of anger and desire. To front up that things aren't right and explain in his view what actually went wrong.

Instead of that we get the same recycled quotes each week of non-consequential bull****.
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This.

If he came out showing a bit more spirit and fight in his press-conferences i would be more readily to forgive him. When SAF was our manager i would actually wait and see what he had to say after a game, win or lose. With Moyes i switch off and wait to hear the same crap via twitter
 
Someone said:
The one thing that makes me thing he's clearly the wrong man for the job is the lack of confidence that runs through our team like a plague, we haven't played with confidence at any point this season.
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Probably because it started pre-season, when we were pretty dire.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
It's difficult to explain it..
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I don't even know what to say. Moyes cannot explain why we have not been performing, so why are we still giving him a chance. If he said he's going to improve, he's going to fight that 4th spot, then at least we know he's trying and might be able to. But he had no clue. He can manage at levels of teams like Evorton, but we re now only asking him to set goal on 4th spot, and he even didn't have a clue how. If he's a decent person, he should have tendered his resignation 10 games ago. But resigning now is still good enough for me.

A new manager (any manager) might get us some hope on Wednesday in the European front.
 
Are the most of us fans being stupid and incapable of seeing the whole picture, or are the board, the Glazers, execs just stubborn/stupid?
 
SER19 said:
but specifically. come out and criticse the players he thought let him down? come out and say i think we lost becuase rodgers out thought me and i might not be up to it?

personally, i think youre getting way too wound up about what are almost always generic interviews.
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Well yes, if he feels the tactics were wrong come out and say it and then bloody fix it for the next game. If certain players are falling short, they've had long enough to adjust call them out or at least drop them!

The man looks like he wouldn't say boo to a goose. To me it's clear as crystal to see, we have the same squad as last year. A squad they may of over achieved but either way should be in the top 4. The big change is in management so to me that must be where the issue is.

I ask myself the questions and the answer always comes back to Moyes

Squad not good enough? Woody and Moyes made a complete hash of the summer.
Needs time to get to know the players? Moyes got rid of a successful back room team.
The tactics aren't right? Moyes sets the tactics.
Are we one dimensional? Moyes rinses the same tactics time and again, never changing a game.
The players look disinterested? A managers job is to motivate and inspire the players when they look like having a dip.
 
Acquire Me said:
Are the most of us fans being stupid and incapable of seeing the whole picture, or are the board, the Glazers, execs just stubborn/stupid?
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Fergie is stubborn and won't admit he made a mistake, Glazers content to keep him and "keep the United tradition of backing managers" even though he's blatantly out of his depth, because they don't have to pay him compensation for sacking him. Although Moyes is really costing them more money then what it would probably take to sack him.
 
redevil2 said:
I don't even know what to say. Moyes cannot explain why we have not been performing, so why are we still giving him a chance. If he said he's going to improve, he's going to fight that 4th spot, then at least we know he's trying and might be able to. But he had no clue. He can manage at levels of teams like Evorton, but we re now only asking him to set goal on 4th spot, and he even didn't have a clue how. If he's a decent person, he should have tendered his resignation 10 games ago. But resigning now is still good enough for me.

A new manager (any manager) might get us some hope on Wednesday in the European front.
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He is clueless, and usually always talks rubbish in post match interviews. After Everton beat United in a match at Goodison. He actually said in his post match interview "If we get a good start(to the season) we can try to chase some teams instead of trying to play catch up" wtf? The guy is a mid table manager with an underdog attitude. If we want to be a mid table team then he will be fine.
 
Here's my input as a neutral:

Moyes is clearly not the manager for United. I don't see any signs that he'll create a winning squad in the near future. He might do significantly better in 3 years with some patience and investments, but is it worth waiting for that (i.e. him turning into a new Sir Alex)?

My team tried five managers in five years (2006-2011) before finding the right one. All of them could theoretically have become excellent with time, but only one created a winning side right away.
 
If it were Moyes' fault alone it'd be amazing but I fear it's not. This squad is drained physically perhaps and most importantly mentally from the last two seasons. That last minute loss of the title to City fired up the squad for one last big push and they reclaimed the title. But we all know they were punching way above their weight.
Now with Fergie gone Moyes is left with a team that has no midfield, that is almost completely spent.
Not saying Moyes is blameless btw. He didn't address the midfield problem and he clearly either doesn't want to change formations and style of doesn't know how.

This perfect shitstorm will cost him the job and he blew his only chance at the big time playing it safe.
 
Nedved said:
Here's my input as a neutral:

Moyes is clearly not the manager for United. I don't see any signs that he'll create a winning squad in the near future. He might do significantly better in 3 years with some patience and investments, but is it worth waiting for that (i.e. him turning into a new Sir Alex)?

My team tried five managers in five years (2006-2011) before finding the right one. All of them could theoretically have become excellent with time, but only one created a winning side right away.
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Out of interest, who do you support?
 
What's difficult to explain? Most people probably expected Liverpool to hammer us today, so it's not a surprise and it's not difficult to explain either.
 
bosnian_red said:
Fergie is stubborn and won't admit he made a mistake, Glazers content to keep him and "keep the United tradition of backing managers" even though he's blatantly out of his depth, because they don't have to pay him compensation for sacking him. Although Moyes is really costing them more money then what it would probably take to sack him.
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The tradition that is media nonsense. We've backed one manager. The rest got shown the door when things started to turn
 
God I hope we put some clause in his contract halving his compensation if we don't make it top 4.

Somehow I doubt we were that sensible
 
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