Me. I predicted this weeks ago. Is also said it would result in his dismissal - see what tomorrow brings.
Moyes So Far!
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Me. I predicted this weeks ago. Is also said it would result in his dismissal - see what tomorrow brings.
fecking shite. I don't see why we need another season of this to confirm that he's not up to it
Nope. I really really hope someone from the board has some balls and sacks him asap.
Sack him, and put in Warren Joyce or Giggs as interim.
This.
Yep, pretty much this.
Believe me it won't, it just won't. He's not getting sacked, I have no idea why he's being given the opportunity to continue but he's here for the long term. It's frustrating to say the very least.
I really wouldn't be so certain on that pal. Believe me
Rooney, Evra, Welbeck and De Gea have all been better this season than last.
I'm not being drawn into defending Moyes, I'm just saying this was predictable. Our midfield two was reliant on Carrick being in top form and wingers doing enough to drive us forward. Obv we were reliant on RVP who has played less this season. The current team isn't good enough for this seasons top 4, we're just a few signings and change of system away though.
Moyes if given time we'll see us into the top 4 next season but he'll do it through a better quality team rather than managerial brilliance. We need more than that
Giggs is the perfect candidate at this juncture, won't be blamed if he continues in the form Moyes has set and will surely have the backing of the playing staff.
Is it saying he's sacking Moyes?
I was in the lets give him time camp! What the feck was I thinking? The sooner gollum fecks off the better.
Honestly we would have done better if fergie stepped down and we didn't appoint a new manager and let the backroom staff do it.
I am sorry but not that many players just fall out of form, age catches up and general feckwittery at once.
He has got to go before he does some real lasting damage, as it is it might take a while to get back to anywhere near what we were but if we don't feck him off soon I can see us never getting back there.
Honestly we would have done better if fergie stepped down and we didn't appoint a new manager and let the backroom staff do it.
I am sorry but not that many players just fall out of form, age catches up and general feckwittery at once.
He has got to go before he does some real lasting damage, as it is it might take a while to get back to anywhere near what we were but if we don't feck him off soon I can see us never getting back there.
Oh yes, he's not going anywhere. Sad, but true.
His odds to be sacked are now at 7/2.
Still have the CL and City games to increase the odds.
If he's not sacked after this debacle, there is something seriously wrong behind the scenes at this football club.
I'm shaking thinking about just how much worse it could get if he's not sacked.
I'm shaking thinking about just how much worse it could get if he's not sacked.
I hope the penny drops with Fergie. He has to realise the monumental mistake that he has made.
I wish I could, but the club hasn't been fazed, even after the UCL game, we could have got stuffed today
Evra absolutelly not, and I don't think that De Ge has been any better than last season too. Even Rooney is debatable, he has been great in some games and shit in many others. Welbeck yes.
Wow! You've finally flipped!
If he is sacked tomorrow we can still overturn the CL tie.
The face of Sir Alex says everything. Not even Mr. Barriga(apparently some Mexican character) can cheer him up.
Gerrard just said something about how Rodgers is always tinkering with the formation, its like the polar opposite of Moyes.
Today was a tactical masterclass.
Today was a tactical masterclass.
Plenty of players who under-performed today but jesus how he left it so late to change it was crazy. Vidic was a red card waiting to happen, his biggest weakness is being exposed to someone with pace one on one but we left him in that position the whole second half basically and got lucky he didn't get sent off earlier.
But more importantly its in attack/general possession. It was so clear we needed a third player in there, starting deep. Its good to see Rooney/RVP track back when we lose the ball but when we get on it we just need one of them to sit back, let us get control and build the attack and then they can look to get in to the box. Moyes has got to take flack for that. Too often he just seems to be watching a different game. Also I get the point of pushing Fellaini high at times but he needs to play closer to Carrick as well, its just too open otherwise.
There's such an easy difference to see how we play compared to Liverpool. Our front four is in no way inferior to theirs quality wise, but in terms of maximising the unit as a whole Liverpool are far ahead of us currently. Sturridge/Suarez both drift, open up space for each other, happy to come in and run from wide, our players just don't. The few times we see a pass and then run forward we start getting somewhere but it breaksdown all too easy.
We've got to sort Rooney/RVP because they're just not working atm and its impacting everything and its not long before you begin to add Mata to that, because between the three of them they all seem to want to play in the way that suits them best but problem is that it probably will mean we get less out of all of them. Moyes had had a while to address this and simply hasn't.
But more importantly its in attack/general possession. It was so clear we needed a third player in there, starting deep. Its good to see Rooney/RVP track back when we lose the ball but when we get on it we just need one of them to sit back, let us get control and build the attack and then they can look to get in to the box. Moyes has got to take flack for that. Too often he just seems to be watching a different game. Also I get the point of pushing Fellaini high at times but he needs to play closer to Carrick as well, its just too open otherwise.
There's such an easy difference to see how we play compared to Liverpool. Our front four is in no way inferior to theirs quality wise, but in terms of maximising the unit as a whole Liverpool are far ahead of us currently. Sturridge/Suarez both drift, open up space for each other, happy to come in and run from wide, our players just don't. The few times we see a pass and then run forward we start getting somewhere but it breaksdown all too easy.
We've got to sort Rooney/RVP because they're just not working atm and its impacting everything and its not long before you begin to add Mata to that, because between the three of them they all seem to want to play in the way that suits them best but problem is that it probably will mean we get less out of all of them. Moyes had had a while to address this and simply hasn't.
He has to go. He's approach to management is pathetic beyond any doubt.
The entire match the defence was screaming to be strengthened/altered in some way and his solution was Cleverly and Welbeck.
The entire match the defence was screaming to be strengthened/altered in some way and his solution was Cleverly and Welbeck.
Giggs has no managerial experience whatsoever and the bulk of his coaching experience has come under fecking Moyes. Would be terribly unfair asking him to take over such a demoralized team. I think the best we can do now is write off the season with Moyes in charge but keep working behind the scenes to try and attract an experienced new manager in the summer.
This was so inevitable, and belief is so thin on the ground, that the Caf didn't even get the 'strain' message.
Has he gone yet?
Okay, I see your point and I agree in most points.
Thing is, Fergie was an unbelievably talented manager - definitely one of the best (if not the best) of all time - but he did make mistakes in his career. He made several bad signings that he had to hold his hands up about and rectify. This is just another one of those. Fergie has admitted his mistakes before and he can admit them again. Moyes was a mistake and should definitely go.
Wonder how long the Glazers will be patient with him
I wish I could, but the club hasn't been fazed, even after the UCL game, we could have got stuffed today
Just wait and see. He will likely get Wednesday but we will go out and then it's curtains for him.
I keep hoping and praying for some sort of BREAKING NEWS FROM OLD TRAFFORD type thing on SSN where its United confirming that Moyes has resigned or been sacked. Its not going to happen though is it
I've wanted him out a while now, he's not turning this around, he won't be sacked though. The entire thing is a farce.
It's simply irresponsible for United to keep Moyes for another game. The particulars of this game don't matter: it's obvious that the team played with no cohesion. I couldn't see a formation and we played like 11 guys who met at the pub 10 minutes before the whistle.
Anyone else sat there laughing when it got to the third penalty? or the fact Moyes thinks a 4-2-3-1 is the ultimate formation that can't be beaten.
I mean there are other systems to deploy, oh look Liverpool are doing 4-3-3 which means pressing our 2 CDMs cutting off wide options, also protecting our flanks so we don't get overwhelmed in midfield, yes best stick to 4-2-3-1 for the entire game.
I mean there are other systems to deploy, oh look Liverpool are doing 4-3-3 which means pressing our 2 CDMs cutting off wide options, also protecting our flanks so we don't get overwhelmed in midfield, yes best stick to 4-2-3-1 for the entire game.
I agree, but for what reason though? That's what's frustrating me the most. It's so fecking obvious that he has turned us into chumpions.
Feck sake, they even won the banner fight.
Rooneys definitely been better than last season, but the RVP problem is still there, and Moyes sees both as undroppable and isn't as strong as Fergie to drop any of them when it matters.
DDG's been as good, and the one player I'd call mostly consistent, hell he seems to be the only at time to show natural emotion about it on the pitch. Others just don't seem to care. I'd say the same with Welbeck, he was good last year, should of had more time this year really, but still patchy.
DDG probably shouldn't even lose his spot on the TOTY, but will, most likely to Cech or something. The defence has been shambolic.
DDG's been as good, and the one player I'd call mostly consistent, hell he seems to be the only at time to show natural emotion about it on the pitch. Others just don't seem to care. I'd say the same with Welbeck, he was good last year, should of had more time this year really, but still patchy.
DDG probably shouldn't even lose his spot on the TOTY, but will, most likely to Cech or something. The defence has been shambolic.
Has he said anything yet?
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