Tomalonge
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You need to learn what irony means.Oh... the irony
Here's a clue. The only thing ironic in the alanis morissette song was the title.
You need to learn what irony means.Oh... the irony
What are you talking about? Did you even read my post? Or did you purposely miss the point where I said posters are entitled to their opinions? Yes, including you.Woah man, just my opinion. I'm entitled to it, no? You're being precious.
And I didn't say he was the focal speaker, just that he's adding more unnecessary bollocks to the argument, he is speaking for your side yes?
I wouldn't mind if you weren't so hasty to jump on an opinion from the "Moyes in" camp you've just lumped me in, how dare those guys have opinions, right? I mean they don't hate Moyes.
It's a stupid comparison mate. Sorry, I really think it is. Moyes has experience whereas Bebe had none. It's like comparing Bill Gates to Dev from the electronics shop.
That I could actually see working.A better comparison would be Tom Cleverley and Paul Scholes.
I'm a long time admirerI've started following Sky's posts. They're bloody brilliant.
Still waiting for you to tell me whether Moyes should still be sacked if we win the CL.ok.
First, it's my opinion
Second, I'm explaining the train of thoughts of why I think Moyes is not good enough (based on how he perform weeks in weeks out for 8 months)
Third, I'm explaining why I think he will still score a fail at the end of this season. I don't need to rationalise further, 5th is best finish we can hope, and that requires a distinguished performance from us on every remaining games. Suffice to say that even if Moyes wins every game, we will still ended up with 5th. Hence still not good enough
I'm not a football manager, nor qualify to be one, but that is basic logic and understanding what the math term "Averaging" means. The concept that corelates with League Pts Table
You are judged based on how you perform on 38 games. The closer you get to the 38th games, the closer you know the max points you can get. Lose too many points, and you know your max possible points is getting lower.
Moyes performance (all non technical arguments asides) corelates with our position in the table (rocket science), and just as my judgment on him corelates with our position in the table.
Let's say on average Moyes scores a 5.5 for 30 games (tbf, we lost quite a number of games), from today on he wins 4-0 on every match till the 38th, scoring a 9.0 for the last 8 games
( 5.5 x 30 + 9.0 x 8 ) / 38 = 6.2 over a season (still not good enough) and that is on best case scenario. So I can safely assume he's not good enough on June 30th, just like we won't finish past 4th on June 30th
Moyes won't be sacked if we finish 10thStill waiting for you to tell me whether Moyes should still be sacked if we win the CL.
Oh, and what is your points system based on? What do the points represent? What is your qualification in this field?
Yes... if he DI Matteos the CL, it'd be the biggest fluke ever - Moyes has us playing a lot worse than Pool 05 or Chel 12...Still waiting for you to tell me whether Moyes should still be sacked if we win the CL.
Oh, and what is your points system based on? What do the points represent? What is your qualification in this field?
Valencia to Ronaldo is a better comparison IMO.It's a stupid comparison mate. Sorry, I really think it is. Moyes has experience whereas Bebe had none. It's like comparing Bill Gates to Dev from the electronics shop.
Another good one tbh. People with ability compared to the best of their position. It makes sense.Valencia to Ronaldo is a better comparison IMO.
It shouldn't matter that he has been bad so far, if we manage to win UCL (although I think that chances for that are near 0). If we win UCL, he fully deserves to continue being in the job.Yes... if he DI Matteos the CL, it'd be the biggest fluke ever - Moyes has us playing a lot worse than Pool 05 or Chel 12...
But he'd still be out of his depth.
Still waiting for you to tell me whether Moyes should still be sacked if we win the CL.
Oh, and what is your points system based on? What do the points represent? What is your qualification in this field?
So, if he stays at Man Utd for 20 years and wins the CL and EPL umpteen times it will count for nothing in your eyes then. What's your obsession with Bebe all about by the way? It's a bit unhealthy if you ask me!He wont win. Not because i hate him, because what has shown so far.
We could win it. I could win a lottery. Bebe could have turn into ronaldo, should we continue to play him?
What qualifications do you have to diagnose if it's unhealthy or not. jkWhat's your obsession with Bebe all about by the way? It's a bit unhealthy if you ask me!
Are you jumping on an opinion there chief? Also jk.What qualifications do you have to diagnose if it's unhealthy or not. jk
White text. Gotta love it.Are you jumping on an opinion there chief? Also jk.
Are you jumping on an opinion there chief? Also jk.
I read that as onion. Proper confused.
Eh?
I've now got an image in my head of Getsme stomping all over a ton of onions, crying like a baby.
Blame Redsky, he just put it there.Eh?
Try and leave me out of your weird fetishes if you don't mind.
If he somehow wins the CL, I'd agree he deserves to continue, but not because he's proven he's good enough.It shouldn't matter that he has been bad so far, if we manage to win UCL (although I think that chances for that are near 0). If we win UCL, he fully deserves to continue being in the job.
Quite annoyingly I don't really meltdown in WW. I've been in a few, and it is very similar now you mention it.This entire last page almost seems like a Werewolf discussion. Its just bollocks and people bringing up old posts and making insane comparisons to suit their agenda. You should join the next Werewolf Toma, Im sure youre good meltdown material.
niall's post about megathreads suits this thread for me. i look at the title and think "if i go into this thread, will the content match what this thread is supposed to be about?" i dont know if that made any sense but there are some threads that i see which i feel discouraged enteringWhat a fecking car crash of a thread. Some of you could do with getting a bit of air.
Haven't read the past few pages so I'm just gonna answer the thread. For me, at least he knows his front 4 with mata januzaj rooney and rvp. Welbeck is a good option for me as is kagawa and hopefully when nani is back he'll feature cause for me he's still better than valencia and young.
I just hope that for europe he chooses to with rooney rvp mata and kagawa together. A front four of those guys would be sublime and I think we could do that. If he goes with young or valencia I'll tear my head off.
haha im all for that. maybe next season assuming he's still here, delete this one and start all overWe should delete it and deny it ever existed.
Haven't read the past few pages so I'm just gonna answer the thread. For me, at least he knows his front 4 with mata januzaj rooney and rvp. Welbeck is a good option for me as is kagawa and hopefully when nani is back he'll feature cause for me he's still better than valencia and young.
I just hope that for europe he chooses to with rooney rvp mata and kagawa together. A front four of those guys would be sublime and I think we could do that. If he goes with young or valencia I'll tear my head off.
What do you mean throw playersListen, stop throwing all players under the bus just to defend Moyes. If a team is under performing, Moyes has to take a big chunk of responsibility. He's the one who's picking the team and it starts from him. If it's just one player under poor form, it can be explained but not everyone.