If our Carrick/Cleverly combo wasn't so leaky Rooney would stay upfield. Everyone knows Carrick is slow and immobile and Cleverley looks like a clown anytime an opposition player runs at him with the ball. I'm not a fan of Rooney but until we significantly improve our midfield we are never going to play well as a team. By " significantly improve" I mean actually signing quality players. The likes of Fletcher, Anderson, Cleverley will never wake up one morning with Keane and Scholes footballing ability. It's time to be ruthless and cut losses. By the way Moyes with his ineptitude has magnified an existing problem. He needs to be fired at the end of the season.
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IMO Moyo has been digging his own grave ever since he set foot in the club.
He's brought massive pressure upon the Glazer family. A competent manager after spending 65 m would have atleast guided us to a Top 4 spot if not more. This team is no worse that Arsenal or Liverpool yet we're languishing. The Glazers wouldn't like how the manager's shortcomings are being reflected upon them and everyone in the media has been bashing them of late, claiming they've underspent even when a much miserly club like Arse is sitting above us. They wouldn't like that one bit. The last thing they'd want right now is a resurrection of the G&G protest and there were hints of that at Stamford Bridge. They'd like to nip it at its bud before the problem escalates.
The CEO wouldn't like the fact that he's come under so much criticism being associated with Moyo. Everyone was blaming Woowar in the summer when it was Dave who set up unrealistic targets for him in the first place. Why would Cesc come when he's at his home town club ? Even after being at Arse for almost a decade he was itching to go back. It made no sense. Most probably Moyo dithered on the Thiago, Herrera, Ozil and Coentrao deals too. We ended up paying more for Fellaini that the joint bid for him and Baines. And most of the blame was being laid on Ed's door when he's instead proven himself to be a masterful negotiator. Yes, he may not be as experienced in transfers but an idiot he's not.
Sir Alex wouldn't like the fact that most pundits are now claiming that he left a rubbish squad for the successor when infact he left the on a high note with a capable team that matched Real Madrid last season. I'm not saying it was perfect, but with a few good signings here and there we could've realistically been challenging for the title. But now people are coming out and saying Moyo will have to rectify Fergie's mistakes, Moyo himself says "We'll put it right" and sign a whole raft of players. All this is tarnishing Fergie's legacy. In his mind he was leaving a competent squad who were current champions of England for the successor. Now we're hearing Fergie's scouting that digged up talents like Hernandez, Januzaj and Rafael is crap. And Mr. Everton with his iPads and HD screens will rectify Fergie's faults ffs.
The players don't appreciate how Moyo came out and said that they aren't good enough and that to win the CL you need more world class players. After Mata's signing he said this is the first of many more to come. As a player that has to hurt your confidence, your manager not having enough faith in you. Ok Moyo if you don't like them atleast don't declare it publicly that'll do their morale no good. And then we wonder why the players are not trying hard enough and why they look jaded. Now Davey boy is trying to backtrack and says he has a team of "great champions" but the damage has already been done. There's too much smoke for there to be no fire. Most of them if not all have already turned on him.
There's no-one at blame here but Moyo. He's indecisive, stubborn to a fault, bipolar, too filled with false pride and doesn't have control over his gob. The sooner we get rid the better for all concerned parties. He's even turned the fans against each other, he has to go. Aint no way back for him now.
He's brought massive pressure upon the Glazer family. A competent manager after spending 65 m would have atleast guided us to a Top 4 spot if not more. This team is no worse that Arsenal or Liverpool yet we're languishing. The Glazers wouldn't like how the manager's shortcomings are being reflected upon them and everyone in the media has been bashing them of late, claiming they've underspent even when a much miserly club like Arse is sitting above us. They wouldn't like that one bit. The last thing they'd want right now is a resurrection of the G&G protest and there were hints of that at Stamford Bridge. They'd like to nip it at its bud before the problem escalates.
The CEO wouldn't like the fact that he's come under so much criticism being associated with Moyo. Everyone was blaming Woowar in the summer when it was Dave who set up unrealistic targets for him in the first place. Why would Cesc come when he's at his home town club ? Even after being at Arse for almost a decade he was itching to go back. It made no sense. Most probably Moyo dithered on the Thiago, Herrera, Ozil and Coentrao deals too. We ended up paying more for Fellaini that the joint bid for him and Baines. And most of the blame was being laid on Ed's door when he's instead proven himself to be a masterful negotiator. Yes, he may not be as experienced in transfers but an idiot he's not.
Sir Alex wouldn't like the fact that most pundits are now claiming that he left a rubbish squad for the successor when infact he left the on a high note with a capable team that matched Real Madrid last season. I'm not saying it was perfect, but with a few good signings here and there we could've realistically been challenging for the title. But now people are coming out and saying Moyo will have to rectify Fergie's mistakes, Moyo himself says "We'll put it right" and sign a whole raft of players. All this is tarnishing Fergie's legacy. In his mind he was leaving a competent squad who were current champions of England for the successor. Now we're hearing Fergie's scouting that digged up talents like Hernandez, Januzaj and Rafael is crap. And Mr. Everton with his iPads and HD screens will rectify Fergie's faults ffs.
The players don't appreciate how Moyo came out and said that they aren't good enough and that to win the CL you need more world class players. After Mata's signing he said this is the first of many more to come. As a player that has to hurt your confidence, your manager not having enough faith in you. Ok Moyo if you don't like them atleast don't declare it publicly that'll do their morale no good. And then we wonder why the players are not trying hard enough and why they look jaded. Now Davey boy is trying to backtrack and says he has a team of "great champions" but the damage has already been done. There's too much smoke for there to be no fire. Most of them if not all have already turned on him.
There's no-one at blame here but Moyo. He's indecisive, stubborn to a fault, bipolar, too filled with false pride and doesn't have control over his gob. The sooner we get rid the better for all concerned parties. He's even turned the fans against each other, he has to go. Aint no way back for him now.
Can you stop calling him Moyo. Nobody does that and it's retarded. You saved yourself a grand total of 8 letters by typing that instead.
I think there's more to it then that personally.
The whole system has been bad this season. Carrick and Clev/Fellaini/Fletch/Giggs etc have issues because those latter players just lack that quality we need as starters, agreed, but they've also not been helped by how Rooney/the other striker has played assuming RVP is meant to be the main man, nor the wingers and swapping them out and not addressing the others around them won't change much imo.
Often it seems as soon as we get the ball both strikers head straight up the pitch and all that happens is that it massively inhibits the ability for the midfielders to get the ball forward centrally and the problem is that when they take it wide the two main players there, Young and Valencia invariably do nothing. They don't give the ball away but they don't progress with it either. So that only leaves two real options for the midfielders other than a risky long pass which is to run with the ball which isn't any of their strengths nor was it for a Scholes/Keane either or go back and wait which isn't ideal.
I mean as bad as the midfield is or isn't that doesn't excuse why Rooney and RVP have barely shown any partnership at all since they've been back this year and didn't show that much earlier in the season. That's down to them and I think it's because either both want to play quite high or both are being asked to play quite high. And there may be heat maps etc that show Rooney playing off RVP, and I agree that's the case when we're off the ball but when we're on it, more often than not Rooney is either looking to push up before we really get the ball in a good area, or if he does he wants to switch it wide and then run forward to the box but he's passing it to the wingers who won't do anything of note with it. They're not playing for each other. Look at how Sturridge and Suarez play. Yeah sometimes they might frustrate each other by taking shots when they could pass, but they're making runs to open space for the other, putting each other in.
That's not to say its all Rooneys fault, it's been similar when someone else like Welbeck has come in to that role and that's because they're not number tens who specalise in creating through central areas. Rooney is clearly better than Welbeck there but his main aim is to get it wide and then look to get in the box, which if we had wingers who were playing as they should might be fine but as it has been this season its a tactic that doesn't work and means that we can't really penetrate centrally with the midfielders getting the ball in to good areas centrally, nor Rooney/RVP setting each other up, and we're not getting anywhere near enough from wide. How Rooney plays that role is having a big affect and as much as he may need to come back to help defensively, him staying a bit deeper to help offensively and being more varied in how he does it would help everyone from the cms to RVP and really the only way we can get the best out of Mata/Januzaj from the flanks.
I do agree that the midfield needs to be more solid though and its something thats carried over from last season where for some reason when Clev is playing he just doesn't hold his position and it just leaves us defensively exposed and offers nothing offensively. It's bizzarre as he can play more disciplined, in the big games he often does a decent job as a result. But ultimately even if you swapped him for say gundogen you'd still need someone making themselves more available ahead of him and wingers who actually offer something in attack.
As you said though overall this is down to Moyes. He's not getting someone like Clev to hold his position well enough and if its a choice to let him drift then its clearly not working. Likewise he's allowing the situation where we're forced to play it wide and put our creativity in the hands of two players who have been largely disappointing and shown a complete lack of willingness to do their job in attack.
Fellaini has been injured and mata was only bought late Jan so saying a competent manager 'after spending 65m' is complete nonsense. Anyone can distort things to have a go. The fact is experienced defenders have made mistakes that have cost us points. One or both won't be here next season. We've had Rooney and Van Persie missing for large chunks of the season. It's very hard to break a pattern. One year we couldn't win away from home to save our lives and that was under Sir Alex. Next season it was corrected.
Your talking on behalf of the players. Let me tell you something: If they DID take offence, then they're too precious. Simple as that. A World Class player would rise above it and prove everyone wrong, wouldn't they?..
No one wants a team full of people looking for an excuse to abuse the position of playing week in week out. No players want to down tools so that they find themselves on the bench the following week. You see rare occasions but they don't WANT to do that. The truth is other clubs showed ambition where as we talked ambition at a time when we REALLY needed to show it with Sir Alex etc retiring.
Our summers bumblings helped Liverpool. Mentally they were on the up with him retiring but we've helped these teams even more. If you want to beat teams in the tunnel, they have to fear you and so as a club we need to be impressive in the summer
It's not about word economisation mate. I just like that it rhymes with mojo. Like if I were to rap I can say Moyo lost his mojo. If you can suggest something to go with Moyes I'd happily use that.
It's easy to lay the blame on the players' doorstep. But sometimes even a good manager through no fault of his own can lose his players by his untoward actions. Brian Clough was among the greatest ever, but he didn't last at Leeds. Giles, Bremner and the likes were all good players, they just didn't get along with the new manager. Did they become shite overnight ? AVB had some really good players at Chelsea and Tottenham, were they too precious. They're performing under new managers now. Let's refrain from harshly criticising the players. They have won us countless trophies and brought so much joy. What has David Moyes done for us to warrant so much faith, so much so that some would rather blame the players than him.
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It's not about word economisation mate. I just like that it rhymes with mojo. Like if I were to rap I can say Moyo lost his mojo. If you can suggest something to go with Moyes I'd happily use that.
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It's Moyes, not Moyo as far as I'm concerned. This nickname doesn't make sense and sounds childish as feck.
G&G protests have been here for God knows how long and they still continue, Glazers couldn't give a shit about it previously and I doubt they'll give a shit about it right now. For having so much money and being so successful in the business world, I doubt they care what people 'say about them'. What they will care about is whether our price / income / money they get from United, or the amounts of it in fact, starts dropping.
Oh fecking Moyes, how does he dare set up high profile targets. If we were chasing Fabregas then there must've been some kind of encouragement from his camp or they've just been playing us to up his contract, not the first time somebody's done that but definitely first time somebody's done that to Moyes, I doubt he's ever had problems like this with such big money involved at Everton or PNE. New CEO, new manager, our transfer window was bound to fail, it did, but the winter one showed some encouraging signs but let's completly omit this part. I'm not even going to respond to the 'dithering' part because Thiago did dismiss it long time ago, Herrera is a non story and Coentrao was never leaving RM untill they got LB replacement for him, which they didn't. If you even consider what Ozil said about Wenger calling him for some time before he became a Gooner, it's a non story just as well.
Sir Alex wouldn't like that the pundits.... Wait, he wouldn't give a feck what they say, he never did, and if he bothered what they said we wouldn't have been where we currently are. If he listened to such cnuts as Hansen and other laughable 'pundits' then he wouldn't ever play those kids. Another thing is that he basically single-handedly appointed Moyes himself as his successor so it's rather obvious that he wouldn't feel this or that now and he wouldn't criticise Moyes as it's 'his own fault' for picking not the right man. Nobody's saying that Ferguson's scouting web is crap, it's your own words and it's rather natural that new manager would like to implement his own ideas about the scouting and same applies to the squad. He's not Ferguson mk 2.0, it's about the time some people woke up and realised it.
How do you know what players don't appreciate ? His comments about CL were right, he said you need 5-6 world class players to win it, what if we've had 5 world class players at the time when he's said it and we've needed just one world class midfielder ( for who we've been crying out loud for a loooooong time before he got here ) to accomplish it ? You don't know what's going on behind the closed doors, nobody here does but yea, overinterpretating and overanalysing Moyes' pressers has been some Craftard's new favourite activity here.
Well, there is. Moyes is at fault for current shit, no doubt about that, but there are players who are underperforming, there's a huge stroke of unluck hitting us this time of a year and then there's finally a man that hand-picked him for this post who, as you're trying to imply, is probably hurting now because of what he sees. If Ferguson is hurting ( which he is most likely not but let's make it sound more melodramatic ), then he shouldn't have picked Moyes for this role in the first place.
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If Moyes is to survive he has to win all these games, or at the very least not be defeated. It's going to be close to impossible, given the form of a Liverpool and our record against City.
We have to beat Olympiacos by three clear goals, and the games against WBA, West Ham and Villa won't be easy. In fact I'd go as far as saying that there is more chance of us losing all these games than winning.
If we don't go into April looking respectable and playing even half decent football then that could be the end of a Moyes.
Personally, I don't think it will be as the club look like they're going to back him no matter what, but the crowd may turn sooner than we thought and things will only go further down hill from there.
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If Moyes is to survive he has to win all these games, or at the very least not be defeated. It's going to be close to impossible, given the form of a Liverpool and our record against City.
We have to beat Olympiacos by three clear goals, and the games against WBA, West Ham and Villa won't be easy. In fact I'd go as far as saying that there is more chance of us losing all these games than winning.
If we don't go into April looking respectable and playing even half decent football then that could be the end of a Moyes.
Personally, I don't think it will be as the club look like they're going to back him no matter what, but the crowd may turn sooner than we thought and things will only go further down hill from there.
Good post. Agree with most of it.
In the real world, no they wouldn't - they would be more likely to think who the hell is this bloke who's never won anything and who's used to working with the likes of Tim Cahill to criticise me and my multi-title winning colleagues. If Moyes thinks there are deficiencies in the squad (and of course there are, as we all know), it should have been addressed solely to Woodward. Instead we have seen frequent references in articles written by sympathetic journalists to the effect that "privately Moyes has been shocked by the quality of some of the players he was been working with". To me, that clearly implies he has been briefing journalists off the record to deflect blame for his woeful performance this season.
As well as that Paul Wilson article in the Guardian quoted above, I see Scott over at Republik of Mancunia has also given up on Moyes. We are now into the end game. The question for me is whether they give him the boot before the second leg against Olympiakos (three days after the Liverpool game) so that we have a fighting chance of retrieving the tie under a caretaker manager.
He's not getting much support in the comments at the bottom of the story.
You get people saying the players should be performing, they are human like the rest of us and sure as hell they aren't fools. They will have realised very quickly that he and his coaching staff aren't up to the job.
I fear for Moyes. At this rate we might not even get the Europa spot.
Agreed. Some are readily blaming players who have achieved so much for us while backing Moyes to no end when he's done nothing to warrant the levels of support he's getting among his worshippers. Although there's been a sea change since the Olympiakos match and more people are coming to the realisation that he's not up for it.
No, some of us are just looking realistically at it and not thinking that 'pls sack moyes' threads on a forum will make anything happen and that our players - whether they like it or not - have to perform to their best because they're not contracted to Moyes Boys FC but Manchester United and they're not the ones to pick the manager.
Plus I think that the whole theory of 'they're underperforming to get moyes sacked' is bullshit at it's best at the very moment, it's just wishful thinking from people.
That is what I am starting to find upsetting, that we are turning against the players who have given us so much pleasure. There is more to this than players sulking about not playing. This is about the training methods affecting the way we are playing and a manager who is not tactically astute.
Then we might as well stop putting forth our arguments. Because as you pointed out, our thoughts have no bearing on what eventually happens. I think we should stop posting because it's no use and just wait for the outcome in silence.
Moyes is not up to it, agreed. However if the players are playing a lot worse than they can, I don't give a feck if our players have won trophies with us or not. They aren't winning trophies for us as charity. They're getting paid millions to do so.
Pff. That's that then. All the dreams have been squashed. He's going nowhere anytime soon.
I don't think they are doing this deliberately. However, we won the league last season and apart from minor changes being needed we are a well oiled machine. The first part of the season, showed Young and Valencia are not up to the task. So in January go and get a couple of wingers who are, if they want us to continue playing with wingers. He gets Mata, who is a good player, but who then gets played out of position to justify his signing. He was only a need for the team if you play him in his right position. His negativity about everything has transferred itself to the players. He is just excuses all the time. I know we have had some bad luck, but it is his excuse for everything. Maybe he has to realise that some of the problems are down to him and his staff.
Way to completly miss my point, congratulations.
We are/were a well oiled machine, true, but City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool are all well more oiled than they were last season too while we're undergoing our biggest transition in last 26 years.
I agree with Mata, problem is that he's against Rooney who seems to be undroppable, cannot be criticised and we're for some reason throwing everything we can at him so he stays and Mata's most likely to join Kagawa in the lost fight for the #10 position. It has to be said though, that every time we've played with Mata and Rooney in the squad and RVP up front, Mata's positioning in most of the game is very close to Rooney, so he's spending more time infield rather than outfield.
I don't think that his 'negativity' transferred to the players, it's just wrong, shite tactics that did. I don't really see too much negativity about Moyes. Maybe inability is the right word to be fair.
He's only backing him because he knows he will look a complete fool if they sack him.Pff. That's that then. All the dreams have been squashed. He's going nowhere anytime soon.
SAF has to start realising that times have changed and the way the club is run financially has changed. We are now brand Manchester United and cannot afford to go on a long run of mediocrity. Previously we were not competing with sugar daddy clubs. If the support for the club starts falling away, it could impact seriously on the clubs income. The stalwart fans will always be there.
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It's not exactly a real show of support though! To me, it actually further supports claim he's on way out. SAF would usually throw a staunch defence but instead it's "they'll be fine...".....
That's what I'm talking about, overanalysing, overinterpretating of what people say about us, what Moyes, Ferguson, Woodward, Glazers and players say. It's getting to the heights of 'REFUnited, Fergie's bought FA' RAWK delusion to be fair.
I hope you're not offended by me using your post as an example by the way.
Pff. That's that then. All the dreams have been squashed. He's going nowhere anytime soon.
It means nothing to be fair, it's a case of 'what do you expect him to say. As @DomesticTadpole said he's backing his man, if the Glazers want him gone he will be gone
This, pretty much. Besides, Fergie just said what should have been said in public to that question.
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True, SAF might find he doesn't have as much clout as he thinks if the Glazers want to pull the plug.
Ok that's my bad then and I apologize for mis-construing your post. But again look at it this way. If your office hired an inept boss, will you be able to perform to the best of your abilities ? I think I know the answers of some, they'll smugly say we're professionals and we'll just carry on working hard for the company. But that's easier said than done until you've been in that situation. I'll give you a little example from my professional life. I'm the 2nd Off on Oil Tankers by trade. In my last ship we had a Chief Officer who was taking over as second in command of a tanker for the first time. He had a wealth of experience with container ships but none at all with tankers. He had to be trained by his juniors concerning loading/ discharging procedures and even after about 2 months and into our third loading operation with him onboard he almost caused an oil spill and tried to blame it on the other officers. We could have sat back and said that well anyway we'll go about our jobs we get paid for it. But we felt it our duty to get it across to the management that he was clearly too inexperienced for it and it wasn't working. I think we made the right choice, we could've kept working on with him but he could've ended up costing the company tens or even hundreds of millions in case of a major accident. No disrespect to him, he was a good man and had been in the industry for years, but you have to call a spade a spade and it just wasn't working out for him.
Can't we just call him Mojo Jojo cause his tactics never work.It's not about word economisation mate. I just like that it rhymes with mojo. Like if I were to rap I can say Moyo lost his mojo. If you can suggest something to go with Moyes I'd happily use that.
It's easy to lay the blame on the players' doorstep. But sometimes even a good manager through no fault of his own can lose his players by his untoward actions. Brian Clough was among the greatest ever, but he didn't last at Leeds. Giles, Bremner and the likes were all good players, they just didn't get along with the new manager. Did they become shite overnight ? AVB had some really good players at Chelsea and Tottenham, were they too precious. They're performing under new managers now. Let's refrain from harshly criticising the players. They have won us countless trophies and brought so much joy. What has David Moyes done for us to warrant so much faith, so much so that some would rather blame the players than him.
This article is a few days old.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...alty-of-Fergusons-players-begins-to-turn.html
I'm not sure if this article was commented on much at the time, maybe it just got lost in the sea of them but there a few lines in it that my thoughts keep returning to when it becomes a discussion of a manager losing the players:
Students of collapsing morale will study this period in United’s history to understand how and why top teams can descend from the highest perch to neurosis so quickly. We never thought it possible. Certainly not with Manchester United.
Every ex-player you speak to will say that a manager is endangered at the point where a critical mass of players believe he lacks the knowledge or skill to help them achieve their personal aims. Players are essentially selfish creatures who ask themselves daily: “Will this manager help me win? Will he improve my life? Does he know that he is doing?”
With the very best – Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola – the answer is generally yes, so the players Velcro themselves to the leader. They develop selfish loyalty.
Selfish loyalty and self interest then, the same kind of loyalty most of us have to our jobs. Football is a special case of course, because it's not just the players who are selfish creatures, it's the supporters as well. Yet their questions are essentially the same as mine. “Will this manager help us win? Will he improve my life? Does he know that he is doing?”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...alty-of-Fergusons-players-begins-to-turn.html
I'm not sure if this article was commented on much at the time, maybe it just got lost in the sea of them but there a few lines in it that my thoughts keep returning to when it becomes a discussion of a manager losing the players:
Students of collapsing morale will study this period in United’s history to understand how and why top teams can descend from the highest perch to neurosis so quickly. We never thought it possible. Certainly not with Manchester United.
Every ex-player you speak to will say that a manager is endangered at the point where a critical mass of players believe he lacks the knowledge or skill to help them achieve their personal aims. Players are essentially selfish creatures who ask themselves daily: “Will this manager help me win? Will he improve my life? Does he know that he is doing?”
With the very best – Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola – the answer is generally yes, so the players Velcro themselves to the leader. They develop selfish loyalty.
Selfish loyalty and self interest then, the same kind of loyalty most of us have to our jobs. Football is a special case of course, because it's not just the players who are selfish creatures, it's the supporters as well. Yet their questions are essentially the same as mine. “Will this manager help us win? Will he improve my life? Does he know that he is doing?”
I disagree with this point whole-heartedly. Have you ever heard a top manager come out with claims like this of his team? While the players may know they arent the best in the world you have to create a aura about them to make them believe they are. It explains why teams no longer fear us because this aura is gone. SAF (i know Moyes isnt SAF) used to deploy that seige type mentality to create a us vs them scenario in each game and it worked. You can question "how we know what the players think" but we can only go by what we see in their performance and body language (Carricks interview for me was pretty damning).
I hate this whole Players vs Moyes issue that seems to be cropping up everywhere, the Moyes defenders blame the players and the other side look at the manager. Personally i think fault lies with both but if anyone honestly thinks a squad that has achieved so much, albeit with some coming towards the end of their career, can turn rubbish overnight is kidding themselves. If you still want to leave Moyes blameless can i ask, why does he insist on the same tactics/personal every game no matter how bad they do? If the players are so bad why not play them in a system that will cover this? Instead of deploying them in a manner where their failings are highlighted for all to see. Take Cleverley, in a midfield 3 he would be really useful and believe he would offer a pass for people on the ball to play neat triangles, in a 442 hes asked to play a deep lying playmaker which he simply cannot do. A manager should be able to assess where the strengths of his team are by now and work out a system to play to them. Instead hes bend over backwards to have Rooney play where he wants that its unbalanced the team - even then against Olympiacos i have no idea what his role even was!
As for SAF picking Moyes, is that the only reason why you would rather blame the players then the man in charge? SAF wanted someone who he identified with as a person not necessarily as a manager - the feeling you get from his book.
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Everyone mentions this Carrick interview. I've seen it but I'm not getting any subtle digs at Moyes from it. Different interpretations I suppose.
He was asked something like is "Moyes the right man to get the club back on track" and he refused to answer and started to talk about the players some more. A simple "yes i believe he will turn it around" wouldnt have prompted us to start questioning whether hes lost the dressing room
It's more what he didn't say, but I agree, it could be interpreted in many different ways.
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