Ladies and a Gentlemen, the Manchester United manager.
Ladies and gentlemen, the British press.
Moyes So Far!
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Ladies and gentlemen, the British press.
Yeah they're good at stuff like that.
In fairness Steve "why are you 21 points worse off with the same players?" is not a particularly outlandish question, and thus far the press have given him an easy ride. On the other hand I don't see anything wrong with what he said, what Manchester United did last year is irrelevant to what is happening now.
Seriously Steve, they have treated Moyes so well this far. Just compare to the treatment they have done to AVB who wasn't near as bad. Of course that the time has come to start making some more serious questions than 'Has Rooney signed the new contract yet' but thus far they have protected Moyes more than anyone would have expected. Not because they love him or anything, but they were advocating for a long time that British managers are still great and now that 'the best' of them got a chance on a big club, he is doing a very bad job. But in the end media are media, and while they gave Moyes a honeymoon, with those results it is to be expected that they would turn on him. If he wasn't British though, they would have turned after the game of Newcastle.
I agree with you both that they have treated Moyes reasonably well so far (though we differ over that type of question being asked, I guess).
It is funny how he is getting snappy with them and looks like he's fed up with the press when they have gone so easy on him all season.
The press are c##ts I agree, it's fair to say though that they've been going easy on him to date. Maybe by adding a little bit of pressure makes him up his game?
Let's hope so.
So what makes Moyes a moron today guys? I've got a good half an hour here.
Except that they are not. The biggest knocks on Mourinho are his perceived flightiness, arrogance, and willingness to grind out dull 1-0 victories. I haven't seen Moyes display any of these three (in the case of the last point, he hasn't really put himself in a position to do so.)
As for youngsters, other than Zaha, which is perplexing, but then so is the Kagawa case, I don't think our youngsters have been particularly frozen out.
He's been wearing chisel-toed shoes lately. Who the bloody hell does he think he is, walking all over the place? Why can't he get a golf buggy like SAF used to?
I heard he turned up to training with socks and sandals once.
Seem to take it all a bit personally especially when the press have been extremely fair to Moyes.
Now that should be a sackable offence
This 'shoes' idea is outdated. You don't see European bosses wearing shoes.
How is he going to war with the media exactly? People criticised him after he was seemingly laughing and in good spirits in one interview and now because he had a very brief presser he's losing it? The problem is the results, everything else is just nonsense that people are clinging to and adapting to fit their agenda.
True enough, but you know they are hoping for exactly the kind of reaction they got - they're hardly neutral bystanders in this.
So now he's too grumpy?
You guys.
You guys. Every thing he said after the "I was at Everton" line (which I don't really understand either) was perfectly reasonable. He did admit we've not been good enough and he's also right in saying that there are lots of factors other than just the fact that he replaced SAF.
Ladies and a Gentlemen, the Manchester United manager.
They're doing their job and have been extremely nice to him so far. That they are fishing for some tasty quotes is what they're paid to do and I think at any other club they wouldn't be nearly as kind to him. I mean look at the position we are right now and there isn't much of a push from the media to sack him.
Because the media know he won't be sacked, unlike lots of our fans it seems.
Putting all the blame on the players...
...unbelievable.
Was just as shocking to read as the part where he said that he believes that WTC was an inside job.
Shocking.
Fair points but I simply can't take the football press seriously as, these days, they often appear to be little better than amateur bloggers & Twitter trolls.
This.
A lot of our fans think it's not only possible, but literally around the corner.
It's like the belief of a second coming of Jesus. Really?
It's still not ideal though is it, it all seems like excuses, it's always someone else's fault, or we've been unlucky.
I would respect him more if he took some responsibility, promised to mix things up, not try but do, anything that gives us hope that he knows what he's doing.
Someone needs to give him the 'i see pride, I see power' speech.
What's he supposed to do? Turn to the camera and say "I'm sorry" then fall on his sword?
Balls to that, I'm glad he's a fighter, if he was ready to throw in the towel I'd be disgusted.
The results and performances have been poor enough to merit plenty of criticism but analysing Moyes' every public utterance is a waste of our time. If he's bullish, then he's labelled as 'unrealistic'; if he's realistic, he's labelled as 'defeatist'; he can't win. But he'd better start doing exactly that.
And how do they know it exactly? They have inside people's in Glazers family? Why are people thinking that the decision for his sack will be 100% on Fergie's hand?
Club has publicly backing him (which is the right thing to do) but I doubt that anyone has an idea what is going inside, and more importantly how things will go on from now till the end of the season. If we get humiliated by the likes of Arsenal, Pool and City and drop even further I wouldn't bet that Moyes job is entirely safe. It amazed me how people somehow act like they know more than others although everything we know is either speculation or based on media's reports which nowadays are highly unreliable.
Probably because he has not had to deal with the press on this scale. Unfortunately that is part of being the manager of this club. You have to deal with it. SAF didn't exactly enjoy it either.
Can anyone tell me where I can get hold of one of these "football brains"?
Is there some sort of waiting list?
Is there some sort of waiting list?
Least. Self aware person. Everrrrrr.
Kevin sells them on eBay.
Moyes clearly needs a make over, he really lacks that sex appeal required to appeal to the masses. He needs a snazzy haircut, a bit of botox to those wrinkles, get Ronaldo to wax his eyebrows for him, give him a really sparkly new Utd top to wear, train him to speak with a sexy Spanish accent, then he'll be flying in the public eye. Probably make Mrs. Moyes cream herself too which can only be good for his confidence.
Not necessarily. When he signed Mata and showed some cojones in the press that he won't accept the way we are right now and that some players are simply not good enough, he got widely applauded from the fans. It was the first time since a long time, where I thought, this man could actually really do the job given the right amount of time. But all this we played a good game and were unlucky not to win, even though we haven't played really well since the Leverkusen game, is annoying.
I understand what you're saying but, without acting like I 'know more than others,' I feel extremely safe in the prediction that Moyes isn't going anywhere any time soon given all of the circumstances. It won't be 100% SAF's decision under any circumstances, nobody has said that. I think if fans accept that Moyes is here for the forseeable, they can focus on supporting the team and hoping we improve rather than looking for staff changes and being obsessed with every word that comes out of Moyes' mouth.
And yet, if Fulham hadn't equalised after 94 minutes due to poor defending, the reaction to that bizarre game wouldn't have been a fraction of what it's been in reality.
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