From the Moyes Everton heat map, I think we're giving him too much credit to suggest he's just respecting our 'philosophy'. I'm afraid this is the only way he knows how.
Moyes So Far!
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Given everything that has been said before and since the appointment, it doesn't seem likely at all. It's just what you want.
It's funny because yesterday morning before the game I posted this:
I just had a feeling that he felt some obligation to play this way because he's been told it's "The United Way" and he feels he needs to uphold our traditions, but what we saw yesterday was a ridiculous extreme. It was fecking clueless. He's not playing to the strengths of the players we have in the team at all and it's no wonder they're coming under criticism but they gave everything trying to carry out those pathetic tactics yesterday.
I'm not too sure. With all the talk of needing to improve the team, especially midfield, and the purchase of Mata there should be less and less of a reason for players such as Cleverley or Ando being anything more than fringe players, same applies to Giggs really. I agree that he can bring something in a 15min cameo as you say, but it's still a big ask to get 40 of them. Besides, there'll be other players in bigger need for such features in the first team, if we're really going to improve our team the competition will be fiercer
If he'd get an outing in every game in this apparent-write-off season (bar CL, as they could still bear fruit) that would set him on 973, it's conceivable that he'd get some 10 games from the Europa league, with the domestic cup games and the odd league game pulling him close next season but I think it'd be more a gesture on behalf of the club than what would most benefit the team. Sentimental really. If we're going to re-build, we might need to put our romanticism to the side and go pro
The last point about our coaches last year is ridiculous btw.
RvP said this last season:
Variation. We were never so one-dimensional.
If he's given into pressure from others with respect to how he has us playing then we might as well pack it in.
In a game where we had 80% possesion and a team sitting deep and narrow there are going to be a lot of crosses
Over 80 is ridiculous.
Didn't Einstein describe insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Our tactics under Moyes have been the very definition of insane. No two ways about it.
Yesterday epitomised it.
Why? If a player finds him self in a good crossing position should he decline to do so?
If it isn't working, yes.
We took the lead didn't we?
Yesterday was the worst but he's played like that all season. So many on here have defended him saying he's not just lumping it in the box - the stats speak for themselves.
Ps. When a Fulham reserve compares you to conference style tactics......
So they found themselves in a good position to cross over 80 times in a game?
Not on every occasion but often enough they did
We drew to fecking Fulham.
A shit header from Vidic gave them a point
Because we were excellent otherwise, as per usual under Moyes.
If we lose 8-0 at the Emirates Mozza will praise Moyes for keeping it below double figures and winning a few throw-ins.
Good enough to win it
He's love-in with Moyes is quite baffling indeed. There's been very little you could praise the man for yet you'd almost believe he's been good for us from his posts.
Im sorry for pointing out we took the lead
I don't know how all of this is going to end but, one thing I do know for certain is, someone needs to step in here and sort it.
-Dire Football
-Dire results-
-Sitting mid table
-Practically out of the running for everything and it's only February
-Moyes calling the players mentally week
-Players coming out and throwing sly digs around on social media
-Least we not forgot some of the odd comments made to the media and the horrendous summer we had
It's a circus at the moment. Needs to be sorted!
-Dire Football
-Dire results-
-Sitting mid table
-Practically out of the running for everything and it's only February
-Moyes calling the players mentally week
-Players coming out and throwing sly digs around on social media
-Least we not forgot some of the odd comments made to the media and the horrendous summer we had
It's a circus at the moment. Needs to be sorted!
Yet somehow, amazingly, we didn't. Like we haven't in most of the league games.
Being 'good enough to win it' and failing to against the worst team in the league at home is alarming enough, especially as we've barely played a good game of football in the league this season.
Should Moyes get a pat on the back because we were ahead of Fulham for a few minutes? They have the worst defensive record in the league and we toiled against them. Hull put 6 past them ffs. A win yesterday would have only papered over the cracks.
When it's boiled down to these simple facts it looks increasingly amazing that he's still in the job.
Two weeks ago Chelsea couldn't break down West Ham doing the same shit, breaking them down isn't easy
Breaking down a side shouldn't be easy. Nobody expects it to be, especially against sides fighting for survival. But I fail to see how you can seriously defend Moyes' tactics against Fulham. It was beyond a joke, it's a continues pattern. The man is tactically inept, he needs to surround himself with modern footballing men like Ferguson did.
Okay mate.. Fine margins and all that! Lets hope we are good enough to win on Wednesday... Highly doubt it though.
I hate saying it but that's what they are, facts! No one can argue with them and this latest craze of players coming out now and having sly digs has to make the club do something....
And when I say something, I don't mean sack him! This crap needs to be sorted! 76,000 people in a stadium yesterday, spending their hard earning money on that shit??....Did any of you see Vidic walking into the stadium yesterday? I urge you to find the footage!! He could not have looked less arsed if he tried...And then he puts in that performance! The whole thing is a shambles!!
The majority of us can blame Moyes, others can blame the players but, everyone at the club needs to step up, take responsibility and turn this around! We were told it's our "duty" to support Moyes...Suffice to say, we have! We've been very patient with him! More then any other fans would be....So now, it's the club's duty, as a whole, to sort this!..It cannot continue
They should have tried lumping in 82 crosses
What like Mike Phelan?
What was particulary modern about Mulasteens tactics yesterday?
I hear what you are saying but in this case you have to understand. Manchester United as a 'football team' not a business has been easy to manage. You had a manager that built the success of the club and was in control of every aspect of it. The club has never had to handle this uncontrollable situation that we have here like a club like say Spurs who are use to make managerial decisions.
He took a bottom of the league side and stopped us from winning.
You don't honestly expect Meulensteen to produce tiki-taka with a dog shite Fulham side sitting bottom of the league? Also, Phelan was left mystified to our tactics too.
He is Moyes. I am convinced that people for the club have accounts here. Twigginator is Cleverley, kiethotheworld was Lindeegard.
Parking the bus
The Fulham squad neither has the tactical basis nor the individual quality to simply implement a modern football apprach in a couple of days. When you're that desperate for points you probably can't risk the transition period and need something that yields results asap.
I'm not arguing whether or not Meulensteen is a great modern tactitian, but you have to look at the circumstances of his current job, if you want to talk about that.
Theres nothing imaginative about playing deep and hopeing to nick something on the counter
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