Moyes So Far!

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I'll be supporting you against Arsenal. Let's hope for a response! That'd cut the gap for us down to 3 points if we win...
 
Did you even read the (very short) paragraph? That's exactly what he says... you make your own luck.

No, he said we haven't had any luck this season, then says the harder you work the luckier you get. He says nothing about quality of football, just work ethic. Today was rancid football and we dropped points because of it. Our style of football under Dave is horrific.
 
Maybe they have a clause that if misses 4th they can let him go for free
In an ideal world...

No chance though, the club completely backed him. Six year contract, absolute joke. The club really are doing their best to make an absolute balls of this new era. We're going nowhere fast under this manager.
 
2 wins in the last 9 games. 6 losses and 1 draw. Absolutely awful.

The irritating thing is that we could have easily sacked him before the latest poor run of form. People were calling for it but we were told to 'stick by him' and 'wait and see'. Well, we've done that and it has probably cost us 4th place.
 
I keep checking all forms of media hoping to see the news.
 
If we lose against Arsenal, then it's time for Fergie to come back and save us
What ever happens, I dont think Fergie should come back. He is done and we should move on. If we decide to let Moyes go NOW, then either let a caretaker manager from the club itself take over or get in a new manager. Fergie is going to be replaced again at the end of the season. Might as well get in a new manager and let him get accustomed with the club and the squad and it might give him time to analyze who he wants to keep and who he wants to let go.
 
I don't doubt for a second that Moyes isn't working hard. He's just a limited manager. I'm growing so frustrated at this stage. In an ideal world I'll wake up tomorrow to the news he's been sacked.
 
In an ideal world...

No chance though, the club completely backed him. Six year contract, absolute joke. The club really are doing their best to make an absolute balls of this new era. We're going nowhere fast under this manager.
The six year contact was a message to the players and fans that he's here for the longterm to try and take the pressure off him, it was a PR stunt, nothing more. I would be astounded if there are no clauses regarding compensation in it allowing the club to dismiss him under certain circumstances. This is all pointless conjecture though, I don't think we're close to that stage yet, he's going to get until Christmas.
 
I keep checking all forms of media hoping to see the news.

He's got the safest gig in the league pal. No way he's going anywhere unless he resigns, and let's face it why would he do that and deprive himself of a massive payoff.
 
You realise you quoted half a sentence?
Out of context doesn't even cut it.
I said with the way we play (Wimbledon anyone) and our form. Our 2014 form is relegation form. That is a fact.
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No, stop, my sides hurt. It's a good act, but nobody is that capable of mis-using words like "fact", this has to be a wind-up, right?

Even if I had needed to somehow cut part of your post to change the context (lol), you brilliantly make a more extreme post clarifying that the context was entirely clear all along. Brilliant!

I mean, it would be a funny post if you'd just claimed our general standard of play was anything like relegation level. But, just to remove any subjectivity or doubt about context you bring out the "fact" stuff about our form, as if 1.16 points per match could possibly ever get anybody relegated!

Genius, sir, chapeau!

I'm not sure why you seem to be so condescending to Swaters post. In 2014 so far our form is very close to relegation form. An average of 1.16 points per game is awful form. I know it's only seven games but we got knocked out of two cups in that time as well
 
The irritating thing is that we could have easily sacked him before the latest poor run of form. People were calling for it but we were told to 'stick by him' and 'wait and see'. Well, we've done that and it has probably cost us 4th place.
The time to sack him was at the start of January after the defeat by Swansea in the cup. Would have given the new man the January transfer window to set his sights on 4th.
 
The six year contact was a message to the players and fans that he's here for the longterm to try and take the pressure off him, it was a PR stunt, nothing more. I would be astounded if there are no clauses regarding compensation in it allowing the club to dismiss him under certain circumstances. This is all pointless conjecture though, I don't think we're close to that stage yet, he's going to get until Christmas.
Such clauses would make a complete mockery of the initial contract? Moyes' body language would suggest to me he's under no pressure, there's noway there's any such clauses in his contract. Noway.
 
Doubt he's getting sacked anytime soon. Even if we finish 7th, which looks increasingly likely, Fergie still has his back.
 
The irritating thing is that we could have easily sacked him before the latest poor run of form. People were calling for it but we were told to 'stick by him' and 'wait and see'. Well, we've done that and it has probably cost us 4th place.
Cost us 4th? So you poor soul, you still have hopes for that? He will probably cost us 6th and even Europe at this rate.
 
That was so poor today it's incredible. It showed even clearer that he and his staff are not the right fit for United. He has so many excellent attacking footballers on the pitch yet makes us cross 1000 times against a very physical side who fights against relegation. The sooner he goes, the better. He better takes his staff with him though
 
He's got the safest gig in the league pal. No way he's going anywhere unless he resigns, and let's face it why would he do that and deprive himself of a massive payoff.
This is so true, don't want to accept it though.
 
Moyes is useless and I don't like him. I never wanted him here.

But. BUT. Don't these players remember how they played not 12 months ago... If they can't remember that then maybe Moyes really does have a tough job on his hands. Can't they just ignore him and play like Sir Alex/Mike/Rene had them set up for.
 
Not at all, he's all smiles. The entire thing is a mockery, absolute shambles.
Indeed mate.
He spout's the same shite every game, has a smile on his face and looks worry free. I fear he is the untouchable man.
 
The next time David Moyes should walk out onto Old Trafford's turf he should be with the visiting team. Most likely Ipswich Town.
 
Before the game..

I don't think Moyes particularly rates Young or Valencia, I just think that he doesn't want to lose 'width'. That's why we're unlikely to see both Mata and Kagawa play together, atleast in the league.

What I wonder is, is this simply his football philosophy - I mean, width was massively important at Everton but he did have players who liked to come inside in the later years (Mirallas and Pienaar most noticeably). Do we think that he also believes that this is the 'United way'. Emphasis was always placed upon wingers under Ferguson - is that part of his thinking too?

After the game..

David Moyes said:
"I think if you are going to look at the stats and pick out the number of crosses, you need to look at the number of passes,"

"I don't think we just went out and crossed the ball.

"And a lot of people would say that one of the big things about Manchester United is that they do play with width, it's in their genes here."
 
I don't think it's completely fair to have a go at him for laughing. I've laughed myself a few times recently and it's not because I don't care. Not entirely appropriate, I'd say, but I understand that he's flabbergasted that we didn't win today, we made a lot of chances. I'm not holding that against him.

The laugh, that is. He has to take responsibility for the result, and those that preceded it.

Yes, the interview didn't bother me. Whatever he's thinking/feeling there's no point displaying it to the TV cameras. There was nothing he could have said tonight to make that result more palatable or those tactics more understandable.

It's what he's doing with the squad all week, without any camera around that bothers me.
 
His post match interview was awful.When you talk about something being as bad as it gets then at least don't look so chipper! I am less pleased with the defending than the attcking today strangely enough.Fletcher annoyed me with his ball watching for the first and then Vidic!
 
Doubt he's getting sacked anytime soon. Even if we finish 7th, which looks increasingly likely, Fergie still has his back.
Agreed. He will get another season for sure. For me, he and his whole staff are completely out of place
 
There are some stats that are a little frightening. Just read in the newbie forum that we need 34 points from the remaining 39 to equal our worst ever premiership points tally.

To be honest it didn't surprise me considering where we are, but it's a bit mad


Eek
 
:lol:

No, stop, my sides hurt. It's a good act, but nobody is that capable of mis-using words like "fact", this has to be a wind-up, right?

Even if I had needed to somehow cut part of your post to change the context (lol), you brilliantly make a more extreme post clarifying that the context was entirely clear all along. Brilliant!

I mean, it would be a funny post if you'd just claimed our general standard of play was anything like relegation level. But, just to remove any subjectivity or doubt about context you bring out the "fact" stuff about our form, as if 1.16 points per match could possibly ever get anybody relegated!

Genius, sir, chapeau!

Quote: He's taking the champions to relegation.
That's what you said.

He's taking the champions to relegation with the way we play and the form we're in. He couldn't have had a worse tenure so far

That's my quote. So you'll notice that you completely misquoted me. That is a fact.
You cut out half of a sentence. So laugh all you want but try reading next time.

Despite the rest of your laughing, in 2014 we've lost what, 4 times, and won 2. Looking up the exact results isn't necessary. Our form consists of losing and drawing to relegation fighting teams multiple times. And despite your objections again, 1.16 points a game in a 38 game season is 44 points. Presuming 44 points is safe from relegation, that average, our current form, sees us fighting to stay up.
No one said we would be relegated. But it is a comment made by many on this forum recently as well that we look like a relegation battling side.

Also it may help you to know for future reference that 90% of posts on a forum are going to contain an amount of hyperbole and euphemism. No one has said that we are literally and categorically going to be relegated. We people say Valencia is a shit footballer, they don't mean that. When someone says it was a nothing challenge that resulted in a red, they don't mean it literally.
 
Before the game..



After the game..

I do kind of worry that's reacting to all this adversity by getting the team to play like an exaggerated parody of a team managed by his predecessor. Even the whole throwing on all your strikers stuff is a very Fergie thing to do. It's also different to his more measured approach to going behind in the opening games of the season.

It's such an extreme scenario taking over from a living legend but I think we'd be better off if Moyes put a bit more faith in his own instincts.
 
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