Would it not be better to get a new manager in now to get a feel of the club before the start of next season?
Also we have to think of transfers in the summer.
Moyes So Far!
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Would it not be better to get a new manager in now to get a feel of the club before the start of next season?
Also we have to think of transfers in the summer.
yeah right. Just embarrassed yourself. Let's hope Arsenal win on Wednesday eh?
That Juup Heynkess guy didnt do too badly with Bayern you know
Thats the way with most cross, its unsuccesful if it goes across the area and no one touches it, we had enough good crosses and chances to score more then 2
i think thats the 4th time this year we have let in a late goal with a make shift RB.
Their keeper had what, 1 or 2 proper saves? We didn't make any chances, other then a few lucky deflections that feel to our players. We were complete and utter shit, in every sense of the word, and it was 100% down to the manager because of the tactics he had us do. It was a laughable, embarrassing performance, and there's no hiding from it.
He really was unlucky today, same match as today but with Fergie on the bench we'd probably win 6-0. Moyes' really got the anti Midas touch and for that he's got to go. NOW! Before he drags us further down.
As Sphaero said, now is the optimum time to make a change. Bring in a properly qualified manager, the type of individual who should have been hired in the first place, and he can use from now till the end of the season to assess the squad and figure out what's needed. The truth is almost anybody would be an improvement.
Lots of chances? We had 1 clear chance, that rvp didnt score from. All the hopeful crosses are lots of chances now?
Both our goals were flukes too. a deflection and a mishit.
As silly as it sounds, we still have the CL to play for. Playing the knockouts without a manager would be a terrible idea.
Unless Hiddink wants it til the end of the season then sack him in the summer and get Van Gaal after the world cup.
Do you really see us forcing the likes of Bayern and Barca into submission with our 100 crosses? That's assuming we even get past Olympiacos.
He's just not good enough. I'm shocked that a manager can set up such a talented bunch of footballers to spend all game putting crosses in the ball. It was pathetic to watch. We need to take a cue from the other top clubs and change our paths and quickly.
I can't understand why he needed all that time to 'assess' who he did and who he didn't want. It's as if he genuinely walked in on the first day on the job with no clue who he wanted and who he didn't want. We're Manchester United not Ebbsfleet 2nd XI - there was no need for him to spend essentially two transfer windows looking at 'what we got'
Prior to the match when asked if this was one of the strongest line-ups he has been able to field he didn't say yes, he said we still have injuries but hopefully this team can try and win. He is so uninspiring and always looking for excuses.
They don't seem to understand that. By their definition, we were unlucky because well, something and didn't win because Vidic didn't head the ball far enough.
It's nothing to do with us playing 19th century tactics for 90 minutes and expecting a win.
It's our best and only hope. If we only have a 0.5% chance of lifitng the trophy, we better do our best to fluke it.
Spot on, he took care of a club , who at the time had no great expectations due to lack of money and did a good job. These type are ten a penny. What Manchester United needed was a man who knew how to win trophies, who woudn't be overawed by the job.
A man with European experience.
I didn't expect great things after SAF but we seem clueless, square pegs round holes.
"Sidwell to Kieran Richardson, Bent!! It's 2-2!!!" Sidwell was the playmaker in the build up to the equaliser. He also ghosted into the box to score the opener. 2 weeks running a shit midfielder wins a man of the match award.
Any team with an adventurous midfield will get something against us. Charlie Adam's heroics were not a fluke.
81 crosses and only 18 reach a United player. RVP and Rooney are not Carrol or Crouch. They are world class strikers renowned for their technique, composure and shooting ability. Why are we only trying to exploit their heading ability? Our strikers thrive when balls are played to their feet in and around the box. We have 3 player in Mata, Kagawa and Januzaj who can dribble and pick a pass. Why not allow them to play in a way that brings the best out of them. It's almost as if Moyes is trolling with his tactics and selections.
Giggs and Neville played for a long time under Fergie. Don't they have any tactical input? Are they happy to see those retarded crosses?
Any team with an adventurous midfield will get something against us. Charlie Adam's heroics were not a fluke.
81 crosses and only 18 reach a United player. RVP and Rooney are not Carrol or Crouch. They are world class strikers renowned for their technique, composure and shooting ability. Why are we only trying to exploit their heading ability? Our strikers thrive when balls are played to their feet in and around the box. We have 3 player in Mata, Kagawa and Januzaj who can dribble and pick a pass. Why not allow them to play in a way that brings the best out of them. It's almost as if Moyes is trolling with his tactics and selections.
Giggs and Neville played for a long time under Fergie. Don't they have any tactical input? Are they happy to see those retarded crosses?
Today is the day where we see why Fellaini was bought.
And if we're gonna 'play' like that then he can't come back soon enough, sadly and ironically.
And if we're gonna 'play' like that then he can't come back soon enough, sadly and ironically.
Only if you are a bit blind and don't watch the new manager thread (or whatever is it called).
I can repeat it for you though. On the summer we can go for one of these managers:
Proven winners: Hiddink, Van Gaal, Capello, Heynckess
Managers that have proven that can do big things: Simeone, Prandelli, Bielsa
Young managers with a lot of potential (ie. play exciting football): Pochetino, Laudrup, Martinez, Rudi Garcia
Real might be Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime and sack Ancelotti: Ancelotti
Romantic choice: Ole
Redcafe choice: Kevin
I think that at-least half of them would be far better choices than Moyes in every way you can imagine.
The insecure persona always looking for excuses. He's cracked. Not up to par for this club's ambitions.
That's clearly rubbish.
We're going nowhere under Moyes, this is his level and he's dragged us down to it. A nice enough man and a decent manager but he is so out of his depth it's painfully obvious. Moyes and Manchester United just isn't a mix.
Yeah, crosses = chances. 82 of them so we must have been unlucky.
What part? Mata's pass to RVP wasnt a shot? Or Carrick's shot didnt take a deflection?
Fuham had 3 of the best 4 chances in the game. They took 2 of them and missed one.
dont know whats more embarrassing, the fact we gave the job to Moyes or the 6 f*cking year contract.....
That we created no chances. I'm not saying we played well but we easily created enough to win the game. We didn't take them and got suckered on the break.
Do we give them longer than 8 months and 1 transfer window not run by an Airmiles hoarder before sacking them?
Let's cut the crap. How the hell is he still in a job??? This is ridiculous.
We did create 1 great chance,t he one in the 1st half that RVP missed.
Well considering that we gave Moyes two transfer window I think that we might do the same with them. It all depends though, it they are completely shit they should get the sack, if not, they should get enough time.
There is no job in the world when you can go a year without evaluation. What Moyes has done is similar to Google replacing Larry Page with a clueless person who did a good Android program that sold 3000 copies and then after 8 months Android getting surprassed by iOS, Windows and Symbiant. Shit analogy, I know. As shit as our manager.
Yes, Providing they're:
a) Proven winners
b) They show us a vision of the club playing decent football (i.e not crossing it 9000 times).
Moyes is neither of those.
If we lose to the Gooners, then he must be sacked immediately. Bring back SAF till the end of the season, then hire somebody with a proven track record in winning trophies. Looking at our staff on the bench today was worrying, PNev, Round and Moyes all look lost.
Sparring for wind, I'd say.
My two cents: he's anxious, indecisive and has problems making up his mind; all the 'squad assessment' stuff was an excuse to buy time and postpone difficult decisions.
We gave him one transfer window and one bumper copy of Wheres Woodward?
Good call.
And it's not that Tabárez was a poor manager by any means, he just wasn't good enough to take over a title-winning side at the end of its cycle and rebuild it. The same thing happened at Madrid after the most successful period in their history - Luis Molowny took them to 8th place in his first (half-)season after Miguel Muñoz stepped down. They hadn't finished outside the top four in over 20 years and in which time they won 14 league titles and 5 European Cups and he took them to 8th. He managed them three years later and won back-to-back titles so it wasn't that he was a poor manager, he just wasn't the man to rebuild that team. Ajax won 6 league titles and 3 European Cups in 8 seasons but then after Kovacs left they finished outside the top two for the first time in a decade. It happens.
There were numerous others. Watch the highlights. Nearly 30 attempts on goal surely give you the slightest hint that we created more then one chance?
SAF won't be coming back, even if he was open to it the club needs to move on for better or worse.
Daily Telegraph ~ Manchester United's predictable approach under David Moyes is not good enough to see off Fulham
The press pack seem to be finally losing patience after giving Moyes an easy ride for months. This is a piece that could've been written a month ago (at least), Villas-Boas was right that the kind of scrutiny he was under wasn't replicated in other places where it should've been.
The press pack seem to be finally losing patience after giving Moyes an easy ride for months. This is a piece that could've been written a month ago (at least), Villas-Boas was right that the kind of scrutiny he was under wasn't replicated in other places where it should've been.
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