Considering that Rafael hasn't started on the league only one game when he has been fully fit, I tend to not believe that. If that happens though, Moyes need to have his head checed. Screw that, that won't be neccesarily, it would be very obvious that he has mental problems if he decides to sell Rafael and downgrade that position him with the likes of Coleman for example. I think that after the strikers and GK, the right back position is the least of our problems.
Moyes So Far!
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The one thing Moyes has done successfully is he's lowered the level of expectation.
If someone would have told me this time last year that us United fans would have considered finishing fourth a good season i'd have laughed in their face.
If someone would have told me this time last year that us United fans would have considered finishing fourth a good season i'd have laughed in their face.
I think it's more realism than expectation.
Next season however 'realism' will be challenging for the title.
At the minute, being Everton circa 2014 is a feck-load better than our current position and the crap we are playing.
Martinez to Everton: Its an attractive side to watch
Moyes to United: From Champion to Mid-table in a few months.
Bring it on!
Stop talking rubbish!!...Have you seen how many times we've got to the byline this season??
Its literally the opposite of that. Howard clearly says they are more confident.
Actually its a frustrating one. That is the manager we signed from Everton. Yet at United he has thus far failed to show up. It's almost unfathomable how for United he makes the kind of managerial errors he never did at Everton. I hope to God he starts to show his real colors soon. He is a far better manager than he has been showing the world of late.
I agree. I like everything about him, but it's hard to argue with how poor the performances are. I wish the pressure would just cool off and he would get some breaks, we are currently a lot worse than his best everton sides with far better players in most positions, which tells us that it's not his ability that's causing it, something else - perhaps time and maybe even too much pressure. I just like the man, like the romance behind it all and hope it works out
You need to understand the difference between 4th being a good result at the start of the season and 4th being a good result when we're 18 pts or whatever off the top... why should we have expectations to win the league this year at this stage of the season? Surely it would be mad to expect that?
I really want Moyes to succeed and I know he has the qualities to do it. Agree with the post above, we haven't seen his qualities he showed at Everton and now would be the best time to show them.
Sky/media will have a field day if he loses today.
A loss against Rene with Mike Phelan in the studio doing analysis of you and your team.....
A loss against Rene with Mike Phelan in the studio doing analysis of you and your team.....
We ain't gonna lose today I'm 100% certain we will win
I think the question is will we still play shit and win. I would give my left nut for a top performance
I think the question is will we still play shit and win. I would give my left nut for a top performance
Do you have a particular fondness of your right one?
Well, we've been discussing this before as you know - and I simply don't know what to make of the Ducker comment. It seems a very strange claim to make if it's plainly not true.
As for the bold part - yes, it could be read that way. But then again it could be read literally too. They agreed it wasn't ideal for Rene to stay on, given Moyes' hands-on approach to training - and given Rene's ambitions. It could be, in short, that they parted ways amicably enough. And in fairness Rene doesn't really sound bitter about it.
Especially immediately following a loss to Mark Hughes.
A lineup like this? It's pretty much the same lineup everyone asks for.
Rvp
Rooney mata januzaj
Carrick fletcher
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We might well see this today, at least I sure hope so. Mata needs to be in the middle, he's by far our best player for that position. Rooney wouldn't be wide necessarily but more of a free role, but tacks back when he needs to, with evra providing the width there and when he does, Carrick sort of falls back to cover that space left behind.Rooney mata januzaj
Carrick fletcher
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Apparently, in his programme notes today, he's blaming bad luck as the reason for this shitty season
Change the record.
I've yet to read a positive post of yours on this site.
Besides, Moyes is correct in his assessment. The chap has been doused in ill-luck since his appointment. Even the most ardent Moyes detractor will have seen this.
Was actually defending Moyes in another thread a few minutes ago....
I'm just stating a fact so you can all discuss it....
So, change the record and stop being so defensive
You've completely missed the point of my post mate.
Although it has played a part it's a pathetic excuse.
He needs to start taking responsibility, if he truly believes that then it gives me reason to believe he's not going to change his ways.
If we are going for that set up with 3 AM's I'd rather see Kagawa there instead of Adnan
-------------RVP--------
----Kagawa-Rooney--Mata--
------AM-----AM------AM
---------Carrick--Fellaini---
-----------DP-----CM
Back 5.
Why don't you just wait to see the comments in context before going off on one?
Did you see the word 'if' in my post?
When are we getting Solskjaer in then ? 
Only after you've called it a pathetic excuse and that he needs to take responsibility.
It is a pathetic excuse and he does need to take responsibility, if he truly believes that. Do you not agree?
Maybe. I assume you're saying that during the Moyes reign we've lowered our expectations to finishing 4th, but it has to be a product of also anything higher not being realistic due to us being many many points behind
It's also an option, but this way we have the variety of width on one side. Also its the most likely scenario with Moyes if he does choose to change it. As good as Rooney is, he's not even close to Mata in the middle. Rooney can still be there, given a free role and license to roam but Mata has to be the one we build our team around no doubt.
Moyes in December:
'I take complete responsibility for the results. Fortunately they have been good in the Champions League but they have not been good in the Premier League, so I take responsibility for them as well. I would like them to be much better and I have no doubt they will be.'
And we have had bad luck with injuries and some decisions.
No he isn't correct if that is indeed what he is claiming. Unless unlucky is inheriting a title winning squad, being backed to the tune of 65 million in the transfer market, being given time, patience and backing from the club and pretty favourable treatment in the media considering the pathetic position we are in.
There have been injuries to key players but shit happens, every other top 6 club has been required to deal with them this season. The simple fact is he hasn't been good enough, not by a long way...and he knows it. Whether he can accept and work towards rectifying his shortcomings is another matter.
No manager of Manchester United can begin feeling sorry for themselves. It is all horribly negative and transmits to the players and his staff...not to mention the supporters.
You're all going a bit overboard on the 'unlucky' comments here lads.
Woke up with the jingle in my head and thought I'd share.
'Under David Moyes,
we'll get to the byline boys,
and cross more, more, more!'
Ugh.
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'Under David Moyes,
we'll get to the byline boys,
and cross more, more, more!'
Ugh.
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Rene said that he would love to come back. It could have been that they thought that the situation wouldn't been ideal, but if Moyes would have really wanted to keep him then surely something in middle would have been possible.
I agree it is bemusing, but however you try and slice that notion, it only leads to one reasonable conclusion: Moyes is not the man for the job. He should have said 'Thanks for the offer of advice SAF, but i know what i want to do, and how i want to do it, but if i need you i'll give you a shout' sort of thing. Instead he has simply attempted to be a far less convincing version of SAF. The fans don't buy it, and most importantly neither do the players. If he does not have the belief or the conviction to implement his own philosophy upon the team, how can he possibly expect the players or fans to take confidence from him using someone elses idea's?
if he was as much like Fergie as Fergie suggested, there would be no way he would be listening to SAF or anyone else for that matter. Making me think that the reason SAF didn't want a more established manager taking over, was because he would not have had anywhere near as much say in what goes on as he does with Moyes in charge. Can you imagine Mourinho, Klopp or Guardiola accepting advice from SAF on team related matters?
I can't personally, because they all know what they want, and how to achieve it. They don't need SAF to give them advice, and if anything his overbearing presence would probably be viewed as more of a hindrance than a help.
You're all going a bit overboard on the 'unlucky' comments here lads.
I hate these sort of comments. Moaning about bad luck and in general coming across as feeling sorry for yourself.
He does love his "no doubt" though.
Well he's not really moaning is he? Christ.
I'm not sure what's wrong with them?
He's not saying "it's all cause of bad luck" like was suggested earlier, he's just saying that we have had some bad breaks, which is true, he isn't however blaming them for us being poor, and he's basically echoing the "you make your own luck" sentiment.
People go overboard on things Moyes says.
He's a born loser.
Snap.
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