If he got sacked now it'd almost feel as good as Van Persie's goal against Villa last season.
Moyes So Far!
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If he got sacked tonight, we have at least Laudrup to take over. I mean how much worse than Moyes can he be?
Pep or Mou wouldnt be failing right now.
I've no idea. I wish I knew where to get those sorts of precise stats.
The fact that Everton have improved since he left and we have become a hell of a lot worse, should say it all really.
What a completely idiotic thread. The only think more idiotic would be sacking Moyes.
Him especially, considering the state of the squads he inherited at Barca and Bayern.
The current United situation is that the club rates more finances more important than success on the pitch. Woodward has come out and said as much. It is not a surprise really as there are 6 Glazers with their hands in Uniteds kitty. If we do not spend hugely in the summer we are on the way down, no doubt about it. But as long as we keep selling shirts and getting sponsors all over the world the money men will be happy. Trophies come second to financial gain. Welcome to Glazers United.
We are 1st in the Premier League for crosses, with an average of 27 per game. 2nd are Swansea (25 per game), and then there's Southampton, Man City, and West Ham who all average 24.
They seem to have only basic stats, nothing like crosses per game, where they're taken from, etc.
They do have 'crosses per game' if you scroll down a bit and click on the 'pass types' tab. The data is collected and provided to the site by Opta, and I don't know what procedures they use.
Why would it be idiotic to sack Moyes?
What makes you think the Glazers are refusing to throw money at Moyes for transfers? We just spent a fortune on Mata and almost as much for Fellaini.
Yep, true. Around 27 is the number I knew of, which is slightly higher than last season. Question remains, as Stack says, whether that includes the shorter crosses from inside the box.
It would not be idiotic to sack Moyes, a manager that has shown he is mid table at best, bereft of ideas and totally clueless. He is fine if you wish to have a stable situation where a club can maintain itself in the top half of a league(still attractive to sponsors), and now and then maybe get top 4 as United can provide Moyes with more cash than Everton. But as long as the Glazers are in charge this club is going to be no better than mediocre since SAF left. All these sponsorship deals and financial profits are not been used to benefit the club. They are being used to fill pockets. And that is my opinion. We will see when the summer comes and there "is no value" United can say fcuk value we are going to compete and put our financial muscle on the pitch. Or they can say well Moyes can keep us there or thereabouts, after all he has proven it at Everton, so sign him on for 6 years.
Have you any idea how much the club is making each year?
Yes I have absolutely no idea about that. They do have a glossary section to try and clear up some of these kinds of problems, where they officially list a cross as "An attempted/accurate pass from a wide position to a central attacking area." As with the other stats about '% attacks through the middle' it does highlight the problem with some of this kind of data.
The bottom line is that Moyes has been granted funds to work with. This is the current substantive evidence. 37 for Mata and 35 for Fellaini. Both huge funds. Maybe you have speculative pessimism about how much he'll get in the future but this all seems beyond the scope of why Moyes is failing to deliver.
I agree with you there, he has some funds. After the summer we will have a much better idea of how much these funds may be, 30 Mill? or 150 mill. Time will tell.
Every United fan who has said Moyes still needs time will suddenly have a different opinion on him.
I agree. When I'm watching the biggest club in England play medieval football and struggle to 7th place the only thing on my mind is how clever the whole thing is.
David Moyes's Sack Watch ?? 
I said it before Moyes is a capable manager, capable of keeping a team in the top half of the table. But when he comes up against the top clubs he is usually no match for the tactical cleverness of the managers of those clubs. And that is the reason why he has never won anything. He always seems clueless. "I don't know what we have to do to win"? I do, get a manager with a clue.If SAf is coaching him and learning him, then he could turn out to be a genius. But if not we are fcuked.David Moyes's Sack Watch ??
If we give the man time, it would be grounded in blind faith or adherence to this mysterious 'philosophy' people speak of. The man has not displayed any reason, not one iota, why he should be given another season to prove his worth.
Will we keep the moral high ground by keeping Moyes forever but get him some good coaches? Some renowned, progressive, modern thinking coaches? I can't for the life of me believe anybody is responding to the current crop, and if they are, they're obviously doing a shit job of making us pass the ball to each others feet.
Is there any other type?
All i know is one day i will wake up and it will be announced he is sacked. I really can't wait.... Its been a long time coming since Newcastle at home.
Good article.
Loool. You make him sound like the CEO's son at work who just happened to get that 'managerial position' Aslong as you make sure everything around him is great he can't feck up.
He has not got the needed management skills to be the manager of United, and I think he has proven that. But if SAF chose him because he comes from same area of Scotland and SAF feels he can learn him all he knows. Then he could become a great manager. at least I hope that is the plan.
At the moment, I'd say no...
Because you don't sack managers every three minutes.
Knee jerk much?
What about after eight months, if the manager has digressed the champions to seventh?
You do not hire managers who have won jack shit either. But if SAF hired him to learn him and he is a good student then we would have more decades of success after maybe 3 years of adjustment time. Moyes has a lot to learn though. I wish him well.
Why not? Because it would cause instability? Unfortunately mate, Moyes has already done that to a tee.
He made a huge mistake letting go of the coaches we had at this club. Even Phelan for that matter. He knew the club and how it was run from top to bottom. Rene was world class. At least for the first season, he should have kept them. What is Neville and Round compared to them? But regarding your point, coaches might help. But then again, it is him making the final decision. It depends on his ego then. Will he take all the advice he is getting? Or still ignore the coaches and continue his methods to a certain point?
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