Really?
You mean, even though I answered it before you?
Moyes So Far!
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You mean, even though I answered it before you?
He may lose Gundogan this summer but even that is far from certainty and Sahin has become again good.
I said, he is the absolute best manager when it comes to signings. Pizcsek, Hummels, Subotic, Gundogan, Kagawa, Blaszczykowski and Lewandovski have cost together less than 20 million euros. That shouldn't be allowed, it isn't fair for the other teams.
Excellent. I've stopped wearing my United shirt on match days, as I've started to think it's bad look. It's got to the stage now when I open my wardrobe on a match day, I try to not look in the direction of my two United shirts.
Simeone doesn't have only 1 good season, He saved Catania from Relegation and already won a EL and Cup in his first 2 seasons at Atletico. Look at him and how his team plays. I haven't seen a 4-4-2 being played this good since a decade probably. Winning 2 cups in the first 2 seasons and now even leading La Liga in February is a major achievement. Maybe he hasn't gotten the 10+ years as a manager other have but if you look at his team and how they play, he'd be so fitting as a Manchester United manager. Fast breaking, counter attacking, 4-4-2 with great wingers... That kinda rings a bell.
If we replace Moyes it only should be a TOP manager and if there isn't one available, just go for a proven one for a few years like Gus Hiddink. We need to win and improve our performance against Fulham, otherwise I could see things turning ugly. A draw/defeat to Fulham and I really can see Arsenal at his last game.
If Manchester United want Klopp and show that we want him. I don't see him turning us down. What an opportunity he will have to prove his wits in a league that has Mourinho, Pellegrini and a very attractive playing Arsenal.
Christ, we've Arsenal coming up.
Christ, we've Arsenal coming up.
We'l get a point there I believe. I'm always optimistic when it comes to Arsenal for some reason.
Bigger exposure, more prestige, higher probability of keeping your best players, it still a step up from Dortmund.
Wenger and Ferguson are different, they already create a legacy
Because they usually shit themselves against us. But they can't seriously be scared this time... though their injury crisis gives us some small hope.
I used to be. I've no confidence in this side.
Nobody's scared of us anymore, least of all Arsenal. But yeah, we always tend to do well against them and with their CMs injured, I'd expect us to get a result.
They created one just like klopp is doing at Dortmund. There's really no reason for him to leave Dortmund in the next few years. Maybe if they keep losing players every year and they get to a point where they can't improve, he might consider leaving but that won't be for another 5 years probably.
Maybe the press realise that this is a unique situation. For a club to face losing a manager of nearly 30 years, and a CEO in the same summer - its never happened.
Van Gaal
Simeone
Pellegrini
Klopp
Hiddink
Ancelotti
Pep
Conte
Heynckes
Mourinho
Del Bosque
The press are probably hesitant to criticise Moyes all that heavily because the media was left with egg on it's face with regards Ferguson... Even though the two aren't comparable.
What was it that you felt?
I didn't have any intention to force an opinion on you. My comment was based on Moyes being in the Prem for more than 10 years.
You may very well have a view on Moyes that he can turn it around. My comment was based on what you expect more to see from Moyes that we all haven't seen so far. Didn't know it would personally offend you...
*Bangs head against wall*
If you are still undecided you must assume that, or I'm mistaken?
I could pick something out about almost every manager on that list to say why they are not avilable but the one I like to mention most is Diego Simeone. I hope we're all aware that he is an ex-Atletico player and easily the best one they've ever had. He won't be leaving that clib anytime soon so can we stop implying that he'd even consider coming to United?
You're mistaken, I don't know if he can turn it around or not.
Please for the love of all things holy just leave it at that.
Please.
He left Atlético twice as a player. It's not like he's some one-club legend.
The question was who is good enough to manage United, not a list of who is available right now. And the point being, 4 of them joined new clubs in the summer and another 2 weren't under contract either.
At least 2 of them will be available in the summer should we wish to change manager, and that's before we go about thinking about trying to steal from another club. And we'll only know who we can prize away if we actually try.
From that list ones I think are not available are Mourinho, Klopp and Pep. Others we can prize away. And with Real I don't think we need to prize away Ancelotti. Same goes with Pellegrini if he fails to win titles.
Others are pretty available given we throw enough money at them.
Simeone could be the new Klopp, having a stormer of a season but lets see how he does after bigger clubs start picking off his best players.
He's had a stormer since he arrived there.
He already had 3 very good seasons if not stormers itself.
He picked them up December 2011 from 10th position and finished the year 5th - just 2 points off CL position. Also went 9-0-0 in the knockout stage that year in League Europa.
Next season he won Copa Del Rey undefeated again - beating Real in the final. Dismantled Chelsea and was #3 in the league first time for Atletico for like 20 years.
This year - without Falcao - 1st in Primera, SF at Copa del Rey(undefeated yet) and 1/8 final against Milan in CL (undefeated there as well).
It's not based on 1 season.
Can he speak english and play useless wide balls all day?
Done an unbelievable job.
Atletico's main problems over the years has been a poor defence and basically being absolute bottles. He has done a fantastic job in addressing those particular issues.
Simeone is Atletico alumini and bleeds for that club. We're kidding ourselves thinking he'd even consider coming here.
You genuinely feel he'd have absolutely zero interest in managing a more prestigious club who'd pay him more and back him with major funding?
Why are we appraising replacements for our current manager? Why is there even a thread to speculate whether he'll be sacked every given week? This is all heading in the direction I see a lot of fans in right now, of people hoping we lose games to prove that they were right all along and so we can get a tiki taka manager in that they wanted all along
I don't think any of us wants to lose games or have some warm and fuzzy feeling that we're right and Moyes is not up for the job.
It's more like who will be his replacement and in what way to move forward.
Of course if we keep sliding in the table with every week it's natural to discuss his position as a manager. Managers are judged by results...
You keep repeating this but he spent a total of five seasons at Atlético as a player and left them twice. They were his fourth professional club. He already declared that one day he would manage Lazio, 'it's just a matter of time'.
Congratulations on taking the post out of context and naming 10 managers "good enough for United".
Now choose any single one of them that is obtainable, suitable and a manager we can plan long term with.
Fixed.
Basically, what you're saying is if Moyes doesn't turn out to be good enough then we should never appoint a manager again. Or just stick with Moyes indefinitely as there's no one we can replace him with.
Also, 'planning for long term' shouldn't be among the criteria. Planning for 3-5 seasons should be. We're not going to have another Ferguson for a while.
Disbelief. not sure if i was happy.
Yes. He loves Atletico and had his best years there. Maybe he's just saying the right things for the press but the impression I got was that he won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Believe me, I was considering him just a few weeks ago myself.
So for you that means it's possible he'd choose United, then? Keep dreaming fella.
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