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Moyes So Far!
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I don't buy it @Revan. Why would they need to wait until 10pm to realise that they're not going to sell them the pair?
It's not as if they're a random club to Moyes, he just came from that club after years of great service, he must have had a good relationship with the club so it just baffles me to think that he would have gone that long to find out that they won't sell the pair.
It's not as if they're a random club to Moyes, he just came from that club after years of great service, he must have had a good relationship with the club so it just baffles me to think that he would have gone that long to find out that they won't sell the pair.
Blimey, thinking about Jose last night beating Shitty and everyone talking about him being a tactical genius.
Just think what might have been, I'm sure he would have loved the challenge of following SAF, we'll never know how that might have turned out, but no way would it have turned out like it has with Moyes, absolutely no way.
Just think what might have been, I'm sure he would have loved the challenge of following SAF, we'll never know how that might have turned out, but no way would it have turned out like it has with Moyes, absolutely no way.
Well, that what Moyes said and we know that the first 2-3 offers were combined for both of them.
Serious question
What is the timeline for deciding "failure" (if anything below top 4 is the definition of failure)
Because based on this season failure is a certainty not a possibility (not because we say it or we don't - but because the club's financial forecasts were based on certain criteria which will not be met)
Next season? Half next season? Next season and the next to that? What is the point when the jury's out?
Again - not a wum, genuinely curious to know the majority view
He should finish the season. We can't possibly get a good manager now, let alone the right manager. After the season ends he should be sacked with possible replacements lined up.
I don't disagree that we tried to buy them both, but I think it was more of trying to get them on the cheap. Either way, if we had signed a Fabregas then I don't think we would have shelled out the £27m on Fellaini.
Next January would be a much better time to judge it. We'd have had the first season, the chance of a rebuild and the opportunity to instill a new philosophy in the club. More of the players would be ones he'd personally signed as opposed to being Fergie's players and the play would be more consistent in my opinion.
If it's still shit then, I'll be shouting Moyes out just as loud as you lot. Not even going there until 2015 though.
Oh, really? I don't now what I had that perception.
Berbatov then
The difference to us signing Berbatov and us signing Fellaini though are the timing. We were a champions league winning team, and to many Berbatov seemed like the last part of the jigsaw.
This summer was the start of a whole new rebuild, so yeah we shouldn't have been making our first and only signing on deadline day.
@Tomalonge
Has there been anything at all in our play that convinces you to give Moyes another year from now?
Has there been anything at all in our play that convinces you to give Moyes another year from now?
It's not that the double offer was cheap. The last offer (if I am not mistaken) was 42.5m pounds.
In Fabregas case, I can agree with you. Despite that I think that Moyes realy wanted Fellaini, if he had signed Cesc, he would have been more reserved to spend all that money in Fellaini. The best option IMO would have been to go for De Rossi or Strootman instead of Fellaini though. Cheaper and better.
No, but I've not seen anything to sack him immediately this moment either. I'm a patient man though, I want to see what Moyes is made of before I dismiss him.
Considering Ericsson went for £12M or something, we definitely missed a trick there.
Mediocre manager, mediocre mindset. What's else to see? Haven't you watched him at Everton?
Stop.
Think what you want, but DON'T force your view on me. It won't work, frankly you can piss off if you think it's that bad.
I come to my own conclusions in my own time from the things I see, who the hell do you think you are to tell me how to think?
I think I can answer this with clarity no nothing has showed anything implying anythings getting better..
If we add 4-5 Mata's to this team, the league is the minimum, and we should be aiming CL. None of teams in the league have that many.
Just an honest question: do you think if Moyes managed Bayern, he would make them the best team in the world who would swept all major trophies?
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I still trust Moyes. I've defended him all season. But he really needs to get it together now and find some bottle.
We won't sack him mid-season. I'm 100% certain of that. We don't seem like the club to do such a thing. Put more effort in supporting the guy rather than egging him to be sacked - because there is no point.
We won't sack him mid-season. I'm 100% certain of that. We don't seem like the club to do such a thing. Put more effort in supporting the guy rather than egging him to be sacked - because there is no point.
Well, you can give someone the best golf clubs in the world - but if he uses them to play Tennis it's not going to end well.
My point was Moyes is not somebody unknown to the Premier League. He is here since more than a decade. One of the reason to pick him in the first place I presume. Did you think from the beginning that he was the right man for the job?
Why would you play tennis with golf clubs bro? That's stupid.
If anything though, I kind of wish he was getting MORE stick in the press... as opposed to the comparitively light treatment he's been getting so far. It might do good to light a fire under his arse... right now he seems far too sorry for himself.
I just misread the thread title - David Moyes sacked.....
For shits and giggles mainly, but also to prove my point.
I'll see you on court.
I was thinking that.
Challenge accepted.
I agree with this. If Pellegrini brought City to outside top 4 in 24 games, I think the press would've killed him.
The press was all over Villas-Boas whose side was (still is) above the champions in the table.
Didn't help him much, mind you. Certainly seemed to light no fire under his arse.
Ahhh... But he didn't have Scottish fighting spirit!
We all know the answer to that.
Further to that, he would never be given the opportunity to as his CV isn't exactly impressive. Sometimes a manager deserves the chance to show the world what he can do, United gave Moyes that opportunity and it hasn't worked out so far, in fact Id go as far as saying its been a disaster.
Who knows, maybe given time he can turn it around, however he has given us nothing to suggest that could happen, to me that is more worrying than our current position.
(some of) The team Moyes seems like a rather angry bunch.
He is right though. Debating is okay but there is no point to try to force your opinion to someone else.this guy, this guy.
It likely looks as bad as people who advice me to support Chelsea/City because I don't rate Moyes.
Guys, it's ok. Let me explain.....
In 89 I bought a United mug, souvenir toy and key ring. I've used the key ring pretty much every day since and had the mug and souvenir placed together since. Whenever I moved I placed the mug and souvenir in different places until results picked up.
I firmly believe that I alone have been the reason behind many, many success over the years (and a few defeats)....not Fergie.
So, since Moyes took over these 'lucky charms' were useless as they were all attached to Fergie. Therefore, since the defeat on Saturday, I have paid the superstore a visit and replaced them all.
Relax....I've got this. Season saved and 4th place sorted.
In 89 I bought a United mug, souvenir toy and key ring. I've used the key ring pretty much every day since and had the mug and souvenir placed together since. Whenever I moved I placed the mug and souvenir in different places until results picked up.
I firmly believe that I alone have been the reason behind many, many success over the years (and a few defeats)....not Fergie.
So, since Moyes took over these 'lucky charms' were useless as they were all attached to Fergie. Therefore, since the defeat on Saturday, I have paid the superstore a visit and replaced them all.
Relax....I've got this. Season saved and 4th place sorted.
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We did that last season too. They've marginally improved regardless of our form against them.
Exactly, I'm not saying everyone should be supportive of the manager.
If that's how you feel then that's fine, I won't get in the way, the problem stems from when I get insulted for thinking how I think and the people demanding that their way is the only way people should think. The people who are presenting a prediction as the actual future are also a problem.
Think what you want, I won't think what you want though.
Well. actually, we've given Spurs 4 points, and we might give Everton more...
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