Moyes So Far!

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Rome was already built, he just needed to keep the trains running on time.
Come on now, Mike. Some of the trains were fecked. The last guy in charge of Rome should have replaced some of those trains.

This analogy isn't working anymore, is it?
 
I can't see it, the only way he'd get the sack is if our next shirt sponsorship deal value drops significantly.

We need something the Glazers will understand.
Yeah he's staying until the end of the season at the very least, the glazers just gave him the money for mata so they aren't going to sack him 2 weeks later. He might get sacked if he doesn't improve at all, but I can't see us being this shit until the end of the season so he'll probably stay next season too. The problem is that I just don't see moyes and his style ever competing for trophies, ever playing great attacking football. What's the point in keep him around if there is no signs he might get us back up there? A 6 year contract was such an idiotic decision, because even if he did well, he would have gotten the contract regardless. Like this we just dug ourselves a hole.
 
Come on now, Mike. Some of the trains were fcuked. The last guy in charge of Rome should have replaced some of those trains.

This analogy isn't working anymore, is it?
Yet the new guy decided to buy a broken train and a private jet instead...
 
As I said. People don't know the difference between playing shit and playing defensively. Mourinho would've wanted exactly what he saw tonight at Old Trafford and Arsenal, but the players didn't counter attack as well as he wanted them to.

He didn't even play a striker against us
 
Come on now, Mike. Some of the trains were fcuked. The last guy in charge of Rome should have replaced some of those trains.

This analogy isn't working anymore, is it?

Moyes took Rome from a kingdom of gold to one of iron and rust. Just like Commodus.
 
Serious question if we lose again to Fulham at home. He can't really stay on another day. bottom of the league as well.
 
Yeah he's staying until the end of the season at the very least, the glazers just gave him the money for mata so they aren't going to sack him 2 weeks later. He might get sacked if he doesn't improve at all, but I can't see us being this shit until the end of the season so he'll probably stay next season too. The problem is that I just don't see moyes and his style ever competing for trophies, ever playing great attacking football. What's the point in keep him around if there is no signs he might get us back up there? A 6 year contract was such an idiotic decision, because even if he did well, he would have gotten the contract regardless. Like this we just dug ourselves a hole.

Hopefully the club weren't stupid enough to give him that contract without some kind of performance related clause.
 
Serious question if we lose again to Fulham at home. He can't really stay on another day. bottom of the league as well.
I really can't see us not beating Fulham. They are one of the very worst sides in the league. Surely it's unimaginable.
 
Serious question if we lose again to Fulham at home. He can't really stay on another day. bottom of the league as well.

He will, that's the thing. He is a long term plan, and there is no-one within reason to replace him at this time. I don't know what sort of results it will take for him to be sacked, but there's no way he will be gone this season.
 
We'll beat Fulham, we're not that bad. Will be another false dawn as the top reds try desperately to convince themselves it's proof he should be given more time.
 
He didn't even play a striker against us
He did, Schurrle played up front. Both Eto'o and Milito played at the Camp Nou in that infamous CL semi... That must have been an attacking performance since he played 2 strikers that game?
 
I'm glad the internet didn't exist when Ferguson was struggling in the eighties and early nineties.The discussions regarding Moyes would have nothing on the stick Ferguson would have recieved.There was no hope for him for a long time and Manchester United.The fanzines were full of it and the media but sticking with it was more than worth it.I am all for Moyes getting it together.I am not sure if he can but this is getting all too much.When the squad has actually been properly tended to we will see much improvement.The mood is so bi-polar on here.Just a week or so ago when we signed Mata we were all cock-a-hoop and now the depression.It's gonna take time! Injuries and below standard players still at the club have hampered us badly but it will be fine.We'll be back before too long I just know it!
 
He did, Schurrle played up front. Both Eto'o and Milito played at the Camp Nou in that infamous CL semi... That must have been an attacking performance since he played 2 strikers that game?
Pandev started too IIRC. Three strikers, such an impressive attacking lineup.
 
How is it funny? :confused:

Stoke had 1pts out of 18 before they played us, expect the unexpected with David Moyes.
Because it's kind of true.

Tongue in cheek it may be, this is where having non-interfering owners is coming back to bite us on the arse. They should've laughed when Fergie first brought Moyes' name up in the boardroom.
 
I'm glad the internet didn't exist when Ferguson was struggling in the eighties and early nineties.The discussions regarding Moyes would have nothing on the stick Ferguson would have recieved.There was no hope for him for a long time and Manchester United.The fanzines were full of it and the media but sticking with it was more than worth it.I am all for Moyes getting it together.I am not sure if he can but this is getting all too much.When the squad has actually been properly tended to we will see much improvement.The mood is so bi-polar on here.Just a week or so ago when we signed Mata we were all cock-a-hoop and now the depression.It's gonna take time! Injuries and below standard players still at the club have hampered us badly but it will be fine.We'll be back before too long I just know it!

Ah, someone needed to remind us that SAF struggled in the beginning too. Thank you mate, we never knew that. And also the situations were completely the same at the time. We were the dominating force on England back then too.
 
How is it funny? :confused:

Stoke had 1pts out of 18 before they played us, expect the unexpected with David Moyes.
Yeah but that was away at Stoke. I mean, it's Fulham. They're not even unpleasantly shite like Stoke, they're just shite.
 
Because it's kind of true.

Tongue in cheek it may be, this is where having non-interfering owners is coming back to bite us on the arse. They should've laughed when Fergie first brought Moyes' name up in the boardroom.
Any sensible businessman could see that Mourinho would be the safer choice for their investment.
 
Yeah but that was away at Stoke. I mean, it's Fulham. They're not even unpleasantly shite like Stoke, they're just shite.
We may win, Van Persie, Rooney, Mata should be able to beat them even when played in wrong positions.
 
Because it's kind of true.

Tongue in cheek it may be, this is where having non-interfering owners is coming back to bite us on the arse. They should've laughed when Fergie first brought Moyes' name up in the boardroom.

Was saying the same these days. I hope that Glazers overrule Fergie. It doesn't sound classy and I am bad for wishin that, but still.

Yeah but that was away at Stoke. I mean, it's Fulham. They're not even unpleasantly shite like Stoke, they're just shite.
:lol:

To be fair to Stoke, it wasn't a Wednesday night. That would have been horror.
 
I'm glad the internet didn't exist when Ferguson was struggling in the eighties and early nineties.The discussions regarding Moyes would have nothing on the stick Ferguson would have recieved.There was no hope for him for a long time and Manchester United.The fanzines were full of it and the media but sticking with it was more than worth it.I am all for Moyes getting it together.I am not sure if he can but this is getting all too much.When the squad has actually been properly tended to we will see much improvement.The mood is so bi-polar on here.Just a week or so ago when we signed Mata we were all cock-a-hoop and now the depression.It's gonna take time! Injuries and below standard players still at the club have hampered us badly but it will be fine.We'll be back before too long I just know it!

Fergie broke the Old Firm dominance and won in Europe with Aberdeen. He was already a proven winner. What reason is there to think that Moyes will turn it around. I saw a graphic that compared us this season with Everton last season from the first match of the season and it's almost exactly the same. I keep reading that our squad is awful too. The same squad that won the league last season. Even if it isn't as good, it's certainly not 15 points worse than Arsenal, City and Chelsea and worse than Liverpool, Spurs and Everton.
 
We tend to lose games that look like they could be a bit tough on paper e.g. Everton, Stoke away, Newcastle. We do beat the teams that are so clearly shite like Fulham where the players class will win overall no matter.

The only real tough game I feel we have won in the league all season has been against Arsenal.
 
Just trying to put a positive slant on things mate that's all!
I know. But the situations are so different that I don't think means anything what happened then. SAF did well (also had a better CV) after that, but also the club and the team weren't near as good. His predecessors did bad although they had enough years. In fact there were four or five between two Sir managers who did very bad and one of them got us relegated despite he was given time.

When things aren't positive, well, they just aren't.
 
Fergie broke the Old Firm dominance and won in Europe with Aberdeen. He was already a proven winner. What reason is there to think that Moyes will turn it around. I saw a graphic that compared us this season with Everton last season from the first match of the season and it's almost exactly the same. I keep reading that our squad is awful too. The same squad that won the league last season. Even if it isn't as good, it's certainly not 15 points worse than Arsenal, City and Chelsea and worse than Liverpool, Spurs and Everton.

I can handle being 2nd best to Arsenal, City and Chelsea, but also being behind the other three is simply unforgivable. We've also lost to the three of them ffs. Two of them at Old Trafford.
 
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