He hasnt matched his form of last season but hes still crucial to the way we play.
8 games is 1/3 rd of our leagur games thia season
Moyes So Far!
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He hasnt matched his form of last season but hes still crucial to the way we play.
8 games is 1/3 rd of our leagur games thia season
Still can't believe that David Moyes is the manager of Manchester United. And he's not the right person to let spend £100M in the summer.
As much as Ive been a supporter of Moyes so far, I hate to say it, but when you look at Chelsea tonight...it makes you wonder where we would be with Mourinho here. I dont like the cnut and all, but he'd be our cnut, so Id instantly love him.
The way I see it, Moyes will be sacked before he wins the PL ahead of these two. Depressing.
The way I see it, Moyes will be sacked before he wins the PL ahead of these two. Depressing.
Have you seen the way we play? Don't see how any player can be considered crucial to us, the players look clueless at times.
I think it's already torn to pieces and proven to be shite even if Chelsea finish 2nd.
There hasn't been any game this year in English Premier League for Manchester United, when all three of Rooney, RVP and Carrick have been missing. They never missed at the same time.
So Chelsea, Arsenal and City didn't have injuries? Neither Everton?
How many games have Wilshere, Ozil, Ramsey have missed? What about Vermaelen, what about Arteta? How many points do Arsenal have?
I would say Moyes will not win the PL ever with Mourinho in the league.
I thought Carrick was out for two of those weeks. Well, Rooney and RVP. How many times did that happen last season?
In a summer where most of the top clubs in europe changed managers, we chose David Moyes.
And how many of those clubs have been as bad as us? I get that our club is different in that it has had the same manager for so long but transition doesn't lead to such a down turn as the one we are suffering.
It's clear to see that Moyes is the wrong man for this job. Everyone who says he is the right one must be those who never think United make bad decisions.
Without Carrick we haven't a passer in midfield, without Van Persie we loose our major goal scorer, both barely missed a game last year.
The idea that a couple of injuries meant that our ceiling is lowered to 7th is laughable. Completely laughable.
Are you seriously saying that there is no way we could have beaten Stoke? Or Swansea? Or Spurs? Or Newcastle? Or Everton? Or Cardiff? Or Southampton? Or West Brom? There's no chance a decent manager would have done better? Really?
Chicharito will probably be first choice striker at Chelsea, yet he can hardly get a game with us, even with those injuries...
Crap or not he's our only midfielder which puts it into even more perspective. Mourinho would have done better but not by much, one thing is for sure though he would have rushed to strengthen us in the transfer window
I am not sure but it has happened for a few games. Does this excuse Moyes for being 7th though. Especially when he has a replacement like Chicharito who has shown in the past that even on limited time he can score 20 goals. And this year, although he has been almost as marginalized as Kagawa he still has scored 7.
Every team has been without some key players, heck Liverpool were without Suarez for the first 6 games and they had a brilliant start to the league. We've looked toothless all season, with and without our key men.
Carrick has been shite this season. A manager worth anything would've had us better than seventh with the resources he'd have. You can't argue that. Moyes had Welbeck, Chicharito, Kagawa etc. all season and he's still seen us below Everton! He's not up to it, the sooner we realize this the better.
We should be grateful we already have 40pts, Moyes working his miracle, afterall, all our player are useless except Rooney & Van Persie who have been injured all season.
Arsenal have had 1 fit striker all season. Giroud. Wilshere has missed about 10 games, Walcott has missed 15, Ramsey has missed 7, podolski has missed about 20.. We apparently had the best squad in the league, but when we have a couple of injuries apparently we're the 7th best team.
I'm not entirely sure people thought he was the right man, but we thought SAF knew what he was doing and we want to give him a fair crack of the whip.
That is the big point, Jose would not dither and would have kicked Ed's arse for his performance.
I think we've already done that...
I think we are so far lucky with the injuries we had this season. Every other team has missed some key players and had even more injuries.
For Liverpool is also good example, they missed Sakho, Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho for some parts of the season so far. Not to mention that in the last 2 months or so they can't field the same defence for 2 consecutive matches due to injuries...
No, it doesn't. But it's also ridiculous to act as if a new manager should be flourishing when our two best players, who score all our goals, are out.
I agree about Hernandez and Kagawa. Between that and playing Smalling at RB, they are his biggest failings. But that doesn't dismiss the fact that we played shit zombie football last year and were saved time after time by the guy who was injured for a long time. And we actually has a good December until both RVP and Rooney went down at the same time.
They have more goalscores in midfield then we do.
Has a team without one midfielder on form for a prolonged stretch in the season ever finished Top 4? I doubt it.
I remember most people being unhappy when he got the job, lots of negative posters so most didn't think so from the start.
He can still save the season by getting 4th or winning Champions League.
The reason Liverpool have been doing well is the style of football they play. With a poorer squad than ours even players like Henderson are comfortable playing decent fluid attacking football and are contributing to their good form. The whole team there is just rejuvenated. Suarez and Sturridge are obviously banging in most of the goals but the supporting cast have been very good too. They always look dangerous going forward.
I think the plan was always to give him that time, but i think theyll bring that forward to this summer. Its been significantly worse than anyone expected.
Theyll have a decision to make if certain players approach the board and voice unhappiness....and i don't think that is too far away. Most are thinking the senior players Andy is referring too is Rio, Vidic etc but there is every chance its RVP and Carrick
Do you honestly see either happening? I'll give you odds of 1,000/1.
Not really. 4th is not impossible, the only hope in CL is because that Chelsea won it two years ago. But they changed manager in february.
Of he was here we would have had better striker than Chelsea which with Mourinho would have made the difference. There strikers are as shit as our midfielder.
If we had a manager who actually had a brand of football and had any sign of improvements on building something... then there would be more acceptance in giving more time, but the only thing we have to cling to right now is blind hope, and when the reality sinks in we have the guilt of Sir Alex's last words "Stand by your new manager" to compound the issue.
We're 7th because we deserve to be, you can't be "unlucky" the whole season, as the great Maldini said, you make your own luck, when you create nigh on feck all from open play every game what do you expect.
We're 7th because we deserve to be, you can't be "unlucky" the whole season, as the great Maldini said, you make your own luck, when you create nigh on feck all from open play every game what do you expect.
It is because we keep losing.
I could imagine RVP going into a sulk, but I didn't think Carrick was like that. Clevs has been mentioned as well, but that might just be him being useless.
We are ultra reliant on our forwards for goals. Fergie spent 30 odd milion on 2 forwards in his last season rather then a midfielder.
Lets not kid ourselves. It's a great arguement but if we were playing great football and were 7th.. It would not be acceptable. Plus very unlikely we could play good football and be in that position with the players we have.
We won the league at a canter last season with useless players.
That was only because City and Chelsea were shit and we played them every week and won always against them.
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