Moyes So Far!

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Let's just see if he means any of it by dropping Valencia for quite a few games. I am Tony V. fan but, every Tom Dick and Harry can see how his performances have just not been up to par. At least with Mata in - he has the option of playing Janujaz or even Young who had been playing decent before he got hurt on the right.
 
That's fighting talk Dave. Me likey.


David Moyes warns team no one is safe as he rebuilds Manchester United

David Moyes has warned his failing Manchester United players he has run out of patience and will move them out of the club if they continue to underachieve between now and the end of the season. In his strongest warning yet that he is not going to tolerate any more underperforming Moyes said: "I am not going to accept it. I am disappointed we are not in a much stronger position. I am disappointed with how we have played. I, ultimately, take the rap for that. But what I will do is make it right. I am going to get better players in. Unfortunately I don't think there will be more in January. But it will change."

Moyes has agreed to loan Wilfried Zaha to Cardiff City after repeatedly clashing with the former Crystal Palace player. Fábio da Silva is also joining Cardiff, United's opponents on Tuesday night for Juan Mata's debut, and there will be an overhaul of the squad at the end of the season. Rio Ferdinand is among those who will probably be let go. Moyes added: "I have given every player the opportunity to play and show what they can do. We have had a pretty good chance to have a look at it. The players have to perform. If they want to be here and making sure they have a jersey, they have to show it in the games. Undoubtedly this club wants to be at the top. We want to be challenging. At this moment in time we have failed to do that. We want to do something about it."

He also warned that the "rebuilding process" is still only in its early stages despite Mata's arrival from Chelsea. "The message this sends, as I said in the summer, is that we're going for all the best players in the world. Juan is one of those players. He's a top Spanish player, a top Premier League player and I think if you asked any supporter, no matter what club they support, they would be an admirer. "There will be more players like Juan in the future, no doubt about that. He plays for Spain, he's played in big games already for club and country. I do see him fitting in and, hopefully, it doesn't take him much time. But I also still think coming to Manchester United is a big change, for any player or any manager. It's a big thing and he can't solve everything.
"I've got a big job to do here and a couple of new signings isn't all that is needed. I think there's a bigger job to be done but you have to start somewhere. If you asked me what I needed most, I would have said a central midfielder. I could do with a left-back, too, but sometimes you don't always get the pieces of the jigsaw at the time. It's all part of a rebuilding process."

Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie have resumed full training after their recent injury issues and that means United will potentially have a new-look attack on the night when Ole Gunnar Solskjaer returns to Old Trafford for the first time as a manager. "Juan has come to play three positions – off the right, off the left and behind the striker," Moyes said. "He gives me a lot of flexibility. I have been without Wayne for about a month, Robin for two months, and I think if I'd had Juan in that period, I'd more than likely have had better results. Juan will play in different positions, and we could have done with him in the last month or two."

United are six points behind the top four and Champions League qualification but now have a run of games, against Cardiff, Stoke City and Fulham, that presents the opportunity to make up some lost ground before they take on the leaders, Arsenal, at the Emirates on 12 February. "Yes, we've definitely got an opportunity," Moyes said. "But I've been saying that since October and it's not quite happened for us. I don't know [if we can reach the top four]. It sounds like the stock answer but I'm probably going to have to win all of our remaining games. The only way you can start that kind of run is by winning the next one, then see where you go from there. But I've got to think, now that I'm getting players back, if we can get them match-fit, we have a chance."

The alternative would make Moyes' job of attracting his top targets considerably harder in the summer. "It's imperative," he said.
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/27/david-moyes-manchester-united-juan-mata
 
SirFergie said:
His reaction to the Januzaj question today was pretty funny.
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Where can i read this and hia full interview other than Manutd.com. lots of sites blocked and slow, i am on holiday in the middle of nowhere.
 
Brilliant comments from Moyes. What you would expect from a United manager. It's also great to know that a CM is still top priority despite signing Fellaini.
 
Finally he point out the direction and his intentions with his whole hand. This is what the club and the supporters needs to hear, a leader who takes command and show some authority. I hope next step will be to put confidence in our squad, especially in our underperforming players.

Well done David Moyes! Let's see some tactical skills against Cardiff then you're on the road again.

 
Shimo said:
Let's just see if he means any of it by dropping Valencia for quite a few games. I am Tony V. fan but, every Tom Dick and Harry can see how his performances have just not been up to par. At least with Mata in - he has the option of playing Janujaz or even Young who had been playing decent before he got hurt on the right.
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Who does he replace Tony V with?.
 
Looks like the Mata signing has added a few inches to his todger. He's like a new man in these interviews.
 
Shimo said:
What exactly is a Man United manager? Looking at Fergie's career it wasn't about the way we played. Since '08 we've been clamouring for more exciting football but, that's not been the norm. Truth be told I haven't seen football pre-Fergie at United - so can't really judge what makes a Man United manager based on those before Fergie.

To me there are other qualities I value in what makes a Man Utd manager before exciting football. The manager must

1) Instill confidence - right now to me Moyes seems to be failing.
2) Be able to manage big stars - He is excelling IMO
3) Be able to bring through youth - 50/50 because the handling of Zaha/Fabio to me is a bit puzzling but, then there is Janujaz
4) Able to throw caution to the wind and go for the win and/or kill games off - 60/40 so far this season. He's tried it on occasion but, a lot of times it's come too late or just not got the team playing with that intensity when required.
5) Ability to convince top players to come to United. I am not sure Ferguson was that great at it, maybe he just didn't really try, but, he didn't need to either. But, any manager going forward is going to have to be able to do that as no one will ever come close to Fergie in being able to get by with "not world class" yet make world beating teams. With Mata he has made a good start but, the rumblings of Fergie/Gills involved, he'll need to make at least 1 or 2 more to convince on that front.

Playing exciting football will come naturally because that is really what Moyes and the club want but, to me all that I want from the rest of this season is to see him lift the confidence of the players and stop backing down to teams. Even if we don't play exciting football - if he can do that much then it will show he is able to do the most important of things - which is to be an inspirational leader that the players will fight for.
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Playing exiting football with pace and flair has been united's forte. Barring his last few years fergie always stood for exciting, quick paced attacking football. Fergie wasn't all about mentality and motivation.
 
Is Steve round a very high rated coach? I was just thinking about Phil Neville as a first team coach. I mean, a lot of people want us to play sexy classy football, but I wonder if the likes of Phil Neville are the ones to help the players do that.

Also, mata day!
 
This is actually the most exciting signing - in terms of the style of football we might play because of it - in years. Obviously there still remains the potential to screw it up by getting him to hug the touchline and "stick it on Wayne's head, son", but I continue to be hopeful.

amolbhatia100 said:
Also, mata day!
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Every day seems to have been a Mataday of late. It's been Juanderful...
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Is Steve round a very high rated coach? I was just thinking about Phil Neville as a first team coach. I mean, a lot of people want us to play sexy classy football, but I wonder if the likes of Phil Neville are the ones to help the players do that.

Also, mata day!
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He was part of an exciting team, just because he was a defender doesn't mean he can't be an excellent coach.
 
Kid Cunto said:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm bimoylar. My opinion of the man changes on a weekly basis.
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:lol: yes me to! But this recent week has really made me realise just how much he wanted to give the united players he inherited a good chance. I mean he was right...why dismantle immediately a winning team. However, from what he is saying, he is certainly pretty unhappy about some of the players he has. This summer should be very interesting.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Is Steve round a very high rated coach? I was just thinking about Phil Neville as a first team coach. I mean, a lot of people want us to play sexy classy football, but I wonder if the likes of Phil Neville are the ones to help the players do that.

Also, mata day!
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I think he is highly rated but I remember reading in Fergie's book how important bringing in top European coaches, namely Queiroz and Meulensteen, were to him, as it brought a fresh approach and new ideas and techniques from outside of the UK. He really stressed the point.

Kid Cunto said:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm bimoylar. My opinion of the man changes on a weekly basis.
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:lol:
I have the same disorder!
simonhch said:
That's fighting talk Dave. Me likey.




http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/27/david-moyes-manchester-united-juan-mata
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I approve of the fighting talk too. If it's effecting in sending a rocket up the arses of a few of our underperforming players then I'm all for it.
 
As an aside I read an article from Miguel Delaney suggesting the effect Mata can have if he's used to enable us to create more chances from central areas but wont flourish if he's just used as another vehicle to spread the ball wide so someone can whip a cross in. I suppose that's my biggest fear in a way but I hope Moyes takes the chance to play a different style now that we have one of the best chance creators in the league over the past couple of seasons. With Mata, Rvp, Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa there is seriously no excuse for the crossing tactic to continue to be our primary one.
 
I'm not wholly convinced by his interview if I'm honest. I like the fact he wants to be pro-active with big transfers, but he needs to be careful about making too many bullish statements around bringing in new personnel. He snagged Mata yes, but he wasn't in Mourinho's plans, they were happy to sell. Attaining big players in the summer window will be a lot more difficult, considering there will be increased competition from rivals who are also chasing the best players and are willing to spend big. The club are reacting by making positive statements in the transfer market but they must not forget their past failures. If Moyes can't get in the players he wants, he's stuck with what we have and he needs to make that work, which so far he hasn't.

It's all good signing big players but you still need to get them playing effective football. There is plenty of talent in the current United side and they have really struggled to create much or punish teams due in part to the tactical setup the manager and coaches employ. I will be watching very carefully over the next few weeks to see what shape our football takes. Mata is one player, and one player rarely alters a style of football all on his own.
 
i may be the only one but i'm not sure publically listing the positions in the squad that are weak is particularly good for morale. agree with a lot of the rest though and asking the current crop to step up if they want to be first teamers after the rebuild.
 
LR7 said:
As an aside I read an article from Miguel Delaney suggesting the effect Mata can have if he's used to enable us to create more chances from central areas but wont flourish if he's just used as another vehicle to spread the ball wide so someone can whip a cross in. I suppose that's my biggest fear in a way but I hope Moyes takes the chance to play a different style now that we have one of the best chance creators in the league over the past couple of seasons. With Mata, Rvp, Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa there is seriously no excuse for the crossing tactic to continue to be our primary one.
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We have two incredible crossers of the ball in Valencia and Young and they have to be utilised, there's no excuse if they aren't really.
 
rimaldo said:
i may be the only one but i'm not sure publically listing the positions in the squad that are weak is particularly good for morale. agree with a lot of the rest though and asking the current crop to step up if they want to be first teamers after the rebuild.
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Agreed. Its backfired already this season. Great to gee the squad up by talking about big names coming in, talking up the chance of future success, but no manager should undermine his staff's morale.
 
rimaldo said:
i may be the only one but i'm not sure publically listing the positions in the squad that are weak is particularly good for morale. agree with a lot of the rest though and asking the current crop to step up if they want to be first teamers after the rebuild.
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We can talk about tactics/substitutions etc. all day long, but the players only have themselves to blame though. Evra has been dogshite this season, couldn't be arsed defending at all and doesn't contribute a lot anymore in attacking. Buttner? I loled.
And don't even get me started about our central midfield bar Jones (who actually is a defender, can't expect much more from him) and Fletcher - Cleverley and Carrick are the main culprits here, both have been utterly terrible. Fellaini has been injured most of the time, so no wonder Moyes would've wanted to get someone in for our problem area.

FWIW I wouldn't be surprised to see both areas restructured completely after the summer. Evra, Buttner and Cleverley could/should be off, Jones should get a run at CB, which leaves Carrick, Fletcher and Fellaini. We need a couple of left-backs and central midfielders, and Moyes knows it.
 
Anduin said:
The players only have themselves to blame though. Evra has been dogshite this season, couldn't be arsed defending at all and doesn't contribute a lot anymore in attacking. Buttner? I loled.
And don't even get me started about our central midfield bar Jones (who actually is a defender, can't expect much more from him) and Fletcher - Cleverley and Carrick are the main culprits here, both have been utterly terrible. Fellaini has been injured most of the time, so no wonder Moyes would've wanted to get someone in for our problem area.

FWIW I wouldn't be surprised to see both areas restructured completely after the summer. Evra, Buttner and Cleverley could/should be off, Jones should get a run at CB, which leaves Carrick, Fletcher and Fellaini. We need a couple of left-backs and central midfielders, and Moyes knows it.
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that's all well and good and i agree, we need a left back and at least 1central midfielder, but unless theyre all arriving tomorrow he should probably just keep that to himself and do it in the summer rather than disillusioning half the squad that'll be required to try and drag us up to fourth so he can attract the best players knowing they'll be in the champions league next year. or he can just slag everyone off and finish tenth.
 
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