So why were we linked with Lewandowski? Fergie wanted another striker.
Moyes So Far!
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So why were we linked with Lewandowski? Fergie wanted another striker.
I should tender an apology to Mike Phelan....
Me & many of my mates thought he was clueless with his shorts over the years. It had now dawned me he's a genius having seen the crap football & the prehistoric training regime of David Moyes.
Mr. Phelan, wherever you are - On behalf of me & my mates, we are very sorry for doubting you.
Me & many of my mates thought he was clueless with his shorts over the years. It had now dawned me he's a genius having seen the crap football & the prehistoric training regime of David Moyes.
Mr. Phelan, wherever you are - On behalf of me & my mates, we are very sorry for doubting you.
How can you have observed/seen the training sessions?
I agree with all of this. Only I consider RedCafe and it's equivalents to be "privately"..They're merely an extension of talking to United fans in the Tollgate or the Blaize after a game (in principle, not in practice)
I don't even slag Moyes off on twitter or facebook, but I do here, because it's where I come to discuss my personally held opinions on United, not to "support" them with a screed of bibble in a sea of over analysed babble from behind a screen where few of influence will realistically see it. I do that at games. I support. And shout obscenities.
Here I discuss my private opinions. Only they're not private like an affair or an extra penis or a mutilated body in the crawlspace. They don't actually have to be "private"...Football's not that important.
He hasn't but, in his defence, he has read tweets from Raymond Verheijen, Robbie Savage, Peppa Pig and Duncan from Blue.
Spot on Mockney
Why do people keep giving Moyes credit for "correctly identifying our midfield as a problem area". Everyone and their mother has known that for 3 years. He simply made that problem worse by wasting 27 million on a player who is everything we don't need from a midfielder.
Rather Fergie wanted to replace Rooney
This is spot on. I'm actually very proud of our support this season. For all the talk about United fans being spoilt rotten plastics etc. we've been brilliant in supporting Moyes. And yes I think in private most supporters have serious reservations. Moyes would be gone at Chelsea, City, Spurs or Pool now.
Not a major talking point, but i still cant stand fact he brings every player back to defend corners. Leave 2 up and give them something to think about ffs!
Absolutely right - each of those clubs have demonstrated exactly that in dismissing Eriksson, Hughes, Scolari, Di Matteo, AVB, Hodgson etc. In their defence (particularly Liverpool), you could argue that all signs were pointing to them being the "wrong" man - hence taking action.
I can't stand the fact that we seem to be so all over the place at the back. Am genuinely surprised by this.
I really dont understand it. We continually invite pressure. Then again, im not surprised. Its further evidence of Moyes priorities on a football pitch. He's not prepared to take risks to win a game.
Liverpool's owners hung on to Hodgson and Dalglish for longer than was necessary - they tried to give those two a fair chance - and Levy's a law unto himself. Chelsea & City don't really count, given the curious nature of their respective owner-'investments'. Besides, none of these clubs had to replace such a long-standing manager as SAF, so using the idiosyncracies of other clubs as another stick to beat Moyes with is lazy thinking.
Is Jose the manager of this club? No.
Could we get Jose as manager if we sacked Moyes now? No.
Was there a point to your post? No
Also Barecelona appointed a manager in the summer who most had never heard off...
Yes and I guess the boardroom upheaval at Liverpool meant their managerial merry go round was out of character. Who is using other clubs idiosyncrasies as a stick to beat Moyes with? I was complementing our match going support and indeed the majority of supporters I speak to who (like me) are prepared to stick with Moyes. The point I was making was that contrary to our image as glory hunters, United supporters are actually much more fair than other clubs support base appears to be. Spurs in particular are a ridiculous bunch they were on AVB's back from mid-October, yet Spurs have had one of their best starts in years.
Fair enough, Rory. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your post.
That said. It is getting harder to stick with DM. Hard to believe the champions have lost 7 in the league by mid-Jan. We'd be forgiven for turning on him. I'm glad the support aren't, shows a bit of class!
Really, please do enlighten us on these players? Matic to Chelsea seemed a done deal. Their asking prices and do actually have a realistic chance of getting them in this window?
Maybe you should turn this round and ask whether, had we given Pellegrini the job, there'd be loads of muppets on here bleating about how he'd not won any trophies in his ten years in European management?
Answer: Yes.
This.
I don't need to see the training sessions to know Moyes isn't good at his job. Our performance on match days has indicated that whatever Moyes thinks he knows is not good enough at this level. Even when we had half of the squad injured under Phelan, we were not languishing in the 7th position after 22 league games.
More or less the same players Phelan/Rene trained delivered titles after titles while Moyes/Round/P.Neville has collaborated together to turn Old Trafford to the easiest ground to snatch 3 points. 14 goals in 11 league games? In any other industry, Moyes would have been sacked with no severance pay.
Well if that is the case, it makes this transfer window far more serious than I thought. As it stands, there’s no sign of anyone coming in. Big 10 or 11 days ahead for Moyes.
You’re right. I made the mistake in another thread as well. Saying Moyes is taking tons of abuse on the chin when in reality, he isn’t. He doesn’t read the Caf (thank God) and he doesn’t go on Twitter or Facebook, surely. What these sites have done though, is shift my feelings on him.
When Fergie announced his retirement, I didn’t fancy Moyes. Funnily enough as the season has gone on and we’ve had a bad bloody season, he’s grown a lot on me and I genuinely like him. He cares and he’s a grafter. Doesn’t matter what some keyboard warrior says on the internet.
As for the match goers, they’ve been brilliant. And the away support in particular has been incredible. 3-0 down yesterday and all you could hear was the Utd end.
That's not true at all - how often do we read about businessmen receiving 'golden handshakes' when they've run their company into the ground...just like we see poorly-performing football managers getting fantastic settlements when they've obviously failed?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-how-the-team-has-regressed-on-the-pitch.html
So, United have fewer shots, many fewer goals, many fewer passes in the final third, and zero points from late goals.
So, United have fewer shots, many fewer goals, many fewer passes in the final third, and zero points from late goals.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-how-the-team-has-regressed-on-the-pitch.html
So, United have fewer shots, many fewer goals, many fewer passes in the final third, and zero points from late goals.
That article is a bit pointless tbh. It could be summed up like this: "United are much worse than last season". Well, no shit.
The only interesting part was that we haven't even scored a meaningful goal after the 80th minute of a game. That really suggests that the determination and fighting spirit is gone, something I didn't want to believe.
Load of crap.
He's doing a shit job and he's getting criticised. It's not an agenda.
Think the media have been largely soft on Moyes to be fair considering how they reacted to other managers like AVB etc
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Tbf, the poster was probably referring to F365's alleged anti-Moyes agenda, mate.
F365 dont count themselves among the newspaper websites and I agree with the majority of his points, except the last para. Look at the abuse someone like AVB got and compare it to moyes reception. The papers want him to succeed(more than others) as he is a british manager.
True but to me it seemed that they disliked AVB personally.
Yeah, got that impression a lot from them. Probably something to do with him taking on the media darling lampard and terry in his first spell and then replacing harry.
Yup, could be, chief.
I agree. I think there is a certain amount of sympathy for him with respect to just what a huge task this job is...taking over from Fergie. However I've noticed these last few days a slight change in tone. If it carries on like this, then I suspect the vultures will be circling much more aggressively soon...
To be honest, it struck me as very similar to when a mid-table team shows up at Old Trafford, puts in a good account of themselves and we beat them comfortably anyway without really having to do much. Don't think that's a good sign.
The media have gone very, very easy on Moyes.
How many times have we gone to Anfield AND Stamford bridge and come away with nothing, despite putting in a good performance? Loads, its not the first time this has happened.
It was a feature of our experiences with Mourinho back in the day in fact. It used to really frustrate me that we'd play really well and they'd manage to come away with the win despite not doing very much.
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