Moyes So Far!

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Has he said that he's happy with the performance yet?
 
I'd be very surprised if he resigns. Even if he is a good person, he's not going to miss out on the chance to get an excellent package which he'd receive if he was sacked. Perhaps he'll surprise us, but I think him simply walking is very unlikely.
i hope he doesn't resign ffs,anyone in his senses wont sack the coach after six months even more considering he had the best players out of the team for a long period
 
Moyes has shown nothing so far that indicates he is good enough for this job. I would somehow understand if the owners are reluctant to give him any more money, especially after the disaster last summer.


Most of us knew this well before he was hired. See the Moyes v Mourinho threads.
 
They're faithheads. Even though all the evidence points to the fact that Moyes was the wrong appointment, they want to stick by him due to the idea of being loyal to the manager.

Their equivalent in Merseyside have led Liverpool to 24 years without a league title. Hopefully, ours will not beat that record. Some people must taste faeces before they know it's shyte. Their vision & smelling organ are not enough to tell them.
 
The best thing he could do for united is to resign. We'll never be a top team with him. He's a midtable manager, that's it. He's not modern enough in his ways and tactics, our only change since sir Alex left was get rid of any type of penetration and change to completely lumping it in from the wings. The sooner he's gone, the better, because we'll have more time to fix the disaster that he's been and we still might save our season and get top 4.


I keep wanting to give him until the end of the season, but with each passing defeat and poor performance, it's difficult to see what could actually change between now and May. Our approach on the pitch is drab. Nobody moves. It's like a game of Subbuteo, where only one player at a time seems to move towards the ball or with the ball. Our centre backs have the ball, nobody shows for the ball, so we clear it out wide and hope for the best, or give the ball to Adnan and hope he can walk it in to the box. It's painful. I can't imagine there's going to be a moment this season where it all just clicks and we go on a rampage. Even when Rooney and RVP return, if we can't create chances other than banging it into the box, then it won't matter who we play up front.
 
Is this true?

United's record against the other top-nine clubs - played 10, won one

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Yes.

Are we surprised? We employed a guy who has never beaten top 4 away from home in 10+ years. He's done this season what he's done every year of his career
 
I've been quite supportive of him but the team he put out today was a fecking disgrace. Valencia and Young are both retards of the highest fecking order and about as useful at football as Walter Jnr. I'm not even a big Shinji fan and I reckon he's ridiculously overrated on this forum but the guy had his best game of the season only to be dropped. Phil Jones doesn't play in ages and is preferred over Darren Fletcher who had a complete week's rest.
 
My stance remains the same. If we finish out of the top 4 Fergie and the Glazers should do the right thing and put him out of his misery. If he some how manages to turn this season around then he gets another year and a transfer kitty. With Rooney and RVP coming back in the next few weeks he will have a full squad to select from. There won't be any excuses. In any case this squad is more than good enough to finish comfortably in the Champions League places.
 
i hope he doesn't resign ffs,anyone in his senses wont sack the coach after six months even more considering he had the best players out of the team for a long period


He'll get the rest of the season but you're making it look as if he's done little wrong while constantly being hit with bad luck. The fact of the matter is that he's been awful so far, and a lot of clubs without our patience would pull the trigger now before things got worse.
 
Some of these players are completely unrecognisable from last year. A lot of senior players don't look arsed or past it and he keeps playing them and how Moyes isn't making a left-back a priority this window with Evra's knee issues is beyond me.
 
Even with the money supposedly available, will the top, top players want to move to our club next season, from the likes of the Italian champions or Madrid's elites, to a club who looks dead set now to miss out on top 4, under a manager who looks mediocre? So the top players don't join us, we look to players with potential or just very good. Would Moyes be able to get the best out of them? It just looks bleak for United, and a combination of Moyes and Woodward at the helm spells a downwards spiral to me.
 
If Everton win tomorrow we're seven points off fourth, and Moyes is seven points behind his old club.
 
wasn't at fault today,he got the best of the players available.


I don't agree with that at all. You know your midfield is weak, why play a 442? Why take your current star player and put him upfront, particularly when the player you bring in to his position, Young, doesn't either contribute offensively nor defensively- surely the only reason to make the change. If Jones wasn't fit/sharp, why rush him back over Fletch who'd shown a surprising sharpness or Clev who had slipped off in recent games but mostly due to tiredness.

Then at half time when, yes we were unfortunate to be two down, however were struggling to create chances, why not try and change it.

He's been unlucky with injuries, and unlucky in how somethings have just gone against us, ie their first goal, but for me he simply is showing a lack of flexibility with his approach that is making things worse.
 
Even with the money supposedly available, will the top, top players want to move to our club next season, from the likes of the Italian champions or Madrid's elites, to a club who looks dead set now to miss out on top 4, under a manager who looks mediocre? So the top players don't join us, we look to players with potential or just very good. Would Moyes be able to get the best out of them? It just looks bleak for United, and a combination of Moyes and Woodward at the helm spells a downwards spiral to me.

They will want to join us, Moyes told us so!
 
I think it's time we just simply accept that there's not going to be a top 4 finish this year.......We simply have to give Moyes the boot at the end of the season and start from scratch again...either Martinez or Klopp or Laudrup would be better more innovative managers than Moyes and would have way higher pulling power with top young players from either spain or germany than Moyes will ever have
 
There's only so much you can blame on luck. The lack of defensive basics can't be blamed on luck either.
 
Even with the money supposedly available, will the top, top players want to move to our club next season, from the likes of the Italian champions or Madrid's elites, to a club who looks dead set now to miss out on top 4, under a manager who looks mediocre? So the top players don't join us, we look to players with potential or just very good. Would Moyes be able to get the best out of them? It just looks bleak for United, and a combination of Moyes and Woodward at the helm spells a downwards spiral to me.

If the top players have been watching us this season, they wont want to play under Moyes.
 
wasn't at fault today,he got the best of the players available.


Anybody who's watched us this season wouldve never picked Young. Why couldn't he choose the same front line that worked very well last week?
 
Most of us knew this well before he was hired. See the Moyes v Mourinho threads.

I know I sound like Captain Obvious and Mr Hindsight, but I always wanted Mourinho. Never thought Moyes was up to the job, despite a few shining lights (Leverkusen, beating Arsenal, emergence of Januzaj). He won't resign, we will have to sack him after the season.
 
I keep wanting to give him until the end of the season, but with each passing defeat and poor performance, it's difficult to see what could actually change between now and May. Our approach on the pitch is drab. Nobody moves. It's like a game of Subbuteo, where only one player at a time seems to move towards the ball or with the ball. Our centre backs have the ball, nobody shows for the ball, so we clear it out wide and hope for the best, or give the ball to Adnan and hope he can walk it in to the box. It's painful. I can't imagine there's going to be a moment this season where it all just clicks and we go on a rampage. Even when Rooney and RVP return, if we can't create chances other than banging it into the box, then it won't matter who we play up front.
Agreed. Usually when people say give him time it's because he's shown something good or a sign things will change. He's shown feck all to be honest, only that we're changing to more lumping into the box then before, not what we'd want. I really can't see what benefit it'd be to keep him. Get rid of him and hope somebody can lift us for this half season to try to get into the top 4 is all we can salvage from this season pretty much, because moyes isn't getting there.
 
Moyes was always had a crap record with Everton away to the big clubs, but we all thought it might change with a big club behind him!
 
I thought we played well today, except in front of goal. That and a bit of luck going against did for us. Having said that, anything but beating Sunderland enough to get into the final will mean dead man walking as far as Moyes is concerned, I feel.
 
I don't agree with that at all. You know your midfield is weak, why play a 442? Why take your current star player and put him upfront, particularly when the player you bring in to his position, Young, doesn't either contribute offensively nor defensively- surely the only reason to make the change. If Jones wasn't fit/sharp, why rush him back over Fletch who'd shown a surprising sharpness or Clev who had slipped off in recent games but mostly due to tiredness.

Then at half time when, yes we were unfortunate to be two down, however were struggling to create chances, why not try and change it.

He's been unlucky with injuries, and unlucky in how somethings have just gone against us, ie their first goal, but for me he simply is showing a lack of flexibility with his approach that is making things worse.

We played 442 and bossed that first half, you can't say he got the team selection and tactics wrong when you yourself admit we were unlucky to be 2-0 down
 
He'll get the rest of the season but you're making it look as if he's done little wrong while constantly being hit with bad luck. The fact of the matter is that he's been awful so far, and a lot of clubs without our patience would pull the trigger now before things got worse.
the clubs you are referring to are usually owned by sugar daddies
 
Not being funny but do the top players even know who he is?

Hmm, possibly true, but they want to play for teams that play good football and for a manager who knows what he's doing. Right now, the pulling power of the club is probably not great. I can't see any playmakers wanting to move here incase they are shunted wide like Kagawa, or any top creative midfielders incase they get put in there alongside a defender.
 
Anybody who's watched us this season wouldve never picked Young. Why couldn't he choose the same front line that worked very well last week?
Because there was actual talent in it and it was an attacking lineup, rather then a bunch of hard working defensive players. It was to be expected really, moyes in a big game.
 
I know I sound like Captain Obvious and Mr Hindsight, but I always wanted Mourinho. Never thought Moyes was up to the job, despite a few shining lights (Leverkusen, beating Arsenal, emergence of Januzaj). He won't resign, we will have to sack him after the season.

Its absolute lunacy we didnt go for Mourinho - he was the only one who was the best candidate to take over from Moyes.
Anyway - no point crying over spilt milk, we're stuck with moyes, lets see what he can do next season with hopefully some decent signings in the summer
 
We aren't playing well and are struggling at the back. Why doesn't he play 5 in midfield?
 
Agreed. Usually when people say give him time it's because he's shown something good or a sign things will change. He's shown feck all to be honest, only that we're changing to more lumping into the box then before, not what we'd want. I really can't see what benefit it'd be to keep him. Get rid of him and hope somebody can lift us for this half season to try to get into the top 4 is all we can salvage from this season pretty much, because moyes isn't getting there.


I forged a bit of optimism towards him from December, as he seemed to start getting things right, grinding out some tough wins. The comeback against Hull made think that just maybe we could push on. 2014 has not been a very happy new year though. Other than that, the Bayer games and the opening game of the season, it's been difficult viewing.
 
We played 442 and bossed that first half, you can't say he got the team selection and tactics wrong when you yourself admit we were unlucky to be 2-0 down


We didn't boss the first half, we bossed the first 15 minutes or so. After that it was pretty even. I mean how many chances did we create? I can think of one for Welbeck. We didn't deserve to be two down in that first half but that doesn't mean we got it right and were just unlucky.
 
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