Do feel sorry for him. Just don't think the players are responding to him.
Moyes So Far!
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I feel sorry for him. I don't think he could ever have imagined it would go this wrong.
I must have missed us finishing seventh the year before we signed RVP.
Something's possibly wrong behind the scenes. The squad on paper is dodgy but not this dodgy.
Dross that's either won the league or finished second in it for the last six seasons.
EDIT: Well, longer actually.
I am just speechless about the man now. I don't know how many more losses we can incur before I stop saying "give him more time".
He looks resigned to losing every time we fall behind.
The club will stand by him, give him time and give him funds.
Or they intend to anyway. He'll quit before it happens.
Or they intend to anyway. He'll quit before it happens.
Everyone looks lost, I don't even know what to make of it at the moment.
I kind of hope he resigns cause I know the club will just stick with it too long.
It's going to be a fecking lonely job continuing to defend him if we lose again at the weekend.
Calling our players "dross? Have a fecking word with yourself.
Talk about average players has some truth but we should be beating a bunch of united rejects/poor players with our reserve team.
I'm pretty sure he's completely lost the dressing room. None of the players seem to give a shit about him and I know I wouldn't be filled with confidence looking at that crumbing ruin of a man on the sidelines if I was a player.
Could he resign?
The players aren't average at all, they are very good. What is less obvious is whether they want to play for David Moyes.
Other sides have improved we haven't, surely people can see that? We have stood still bar the RVP signing. This midfield issue has been going on for years, we can't rely on Carrick forever. Valencia has been out of form for 18 months now, Nani crocked, Young is average. We brought on Fletch for Cleverley tonight that says it all really. Bar Carrick we don't have a midfielder that would play for the City, Arsenal or Chelsea sides of today. When you then lose your two best strikers that compounds matters.
Under Fergie losing to an own goal and a (dodgy) penalty in an away first leg would be a shrug-and-move-on thing but this is just abject fecking shite. Moyes looking lost and frustrated must surely effect the players, but have they no pride in themselves?
He's failing to inspire them. United were always great at responding to defeats. Now it's like the players are struggling to care. He's struggling to get the players to play for him.
3 Losses in a row.We look more like relegation fodder than challengers for anything. Can't imagine if we lose to Swansea again.
It's just too many poor results against very average teams.
Blaming everything on the manager? Have a fecking word with yourself. Obviously SAF's final words mean absolutely diddly squat to you. Shame on you!
When you are in a rut decisions never seem to go your way. Then pen looked very dubious and never a free kick for their first. We always seem to be conceding first.
Lose to Swansea on the weekend and that will probably be that. He's hopelessly out of his depth.
I canee take the strain!
The biggest worrying thing is that he seems to have the worst luck ever on top of the obvious mistakes we all know about.
Giggs own goal and penalty tonight!
Giggs own goal and penalty tonight!
I fear you might be right.
Never mind the results but the performances are a new level of drek.
Well i feel pity for him. Hope he has guts to overcome this silly period.
So people still think this is "The Chosen One"? No matter what you think of the squad he over, the guy has criminally underachieved.
Unfortunately for him, hes giving the owners a decision to make
Unfortunately for him, hes giving the owners a decision to make
hope the t0p reds in the away block are happy when the chosen one will gloriously lead them in the championship.
I think almost any other team in the world would have sacked Moyes given what has happened since he joined!
I almost wonder if we would have done the same had it not been for SAF to have taken a few years to get warmed up himself.
The difference is when SAF took over we were shite and needed a lot of work from the ground up.
When Moyes took over we are one of the top clubs in the world in terms of revenue, FFP has made sure that we should therefore have a potentially unfair advantage. We have not been outside the top 3 since 1990/91 in which we finished 5th. As it stands 5th might seem a good result for Moyes, but the reality is 5th means we are screwed.
Failure in the FA Cup when we would have had a simple 4th round draw. Looking questionable in league cup. Champions League has been the surprise success.
On top of this are all the questions:
1) did he change too much in coaching staff?
2) did he fail to ensure transfers happened or is it purely just Woodwards fault? Surely must be an element of persuade and influence, like look this doesn't seem reasonable lets get moving on XYZ
3) are his coaching styles effective and just need time to work, or are the players getting knackered/ injured and failing to perform?
4) was he ever the right man tactically, having not dealt with top class teams, high budgets, and advanced attacking tactics required for such teams?
I almost wonder if we would have done the same had it not been for SAF to have taken a few years to get warmed up himself.
The difference is when SAF took over we were shite and needed a lot of work from the ground up.
When Moyes took over we are one of the top clubs in the world in terms of revenue, FFP has made sure that we should therefore have a potentially unfair advantage. We have not been outside the top 3 since 1990/91 in which we finished 5th. As it stands 5th might seem a good result for Moyes, but the reality is 5th means we are screwed.
Failure in the FA Cup when we would have had a simple 4th round draw. Looking questionable in league cup. Champions League has been the surprise success.
On top of this are all the questions:
1) did he change too much in coaching staff?
2) did he fail to ensure transfers happened or is it purely just Woodwards fault? Surely must be an element of persuade and influence, like look this doesn't seem reasonable lets get moving on XYZ
3) are his coaching styles effective and just need time to work, or are the players getting knackered/ injured and failing to perform?
4) was he ever the right man tactically, having not dealt with top class teams, high budgets, and advanced attacking tactics required for such teams?
He's out of his depth and the players aren't helping him at all, not many players or staff can hold their head up this season. We're so devoid of ideas and too many players want to hide.
Suppose. Wishful thinking on my part.
Obviously he was chosen to manage United. He hardly committed a coup.
No time for pity.. Sack Moyes..!
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