I dont think Fergie coming back.
But if he did that would be farcical. If he did come back Moyes would have to leave.
Moyes So Far!
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I dont think Fergie coming back.
But if he did that would be farcical. If he did come back Moyes would have to leave.
Suarez says hi.
It would also have helped if Moyes was backed in the transfer market by our owners. £27M was all we spent. Glazer's keep their money, but might regret it if we end up in 5th or worse as they will lose out of plenty of money then.
That's actually a good point. At least right now we are still in the champions league. In the summer we might not be eligible to play in it, and that could hurt our chances to get the right players.
Well, again, even though it'd be unfair and through no deliberate action of his, it'd still be the manager's fault. If he's not inspiring his players then that's an obvious weakness.
He was backed. There's nothing to suggest otherwise. We we bidding for fabregas, going for Herrera. He was does elf given enough funds.
Another game where subs were just thrown on to change the game seemingly with no real change in how we actually played.
He's probably the best mid table manager around. But in my opinion of course, where he was with Everton was his peak, and so is still a midtable manager not cut out for a big team. Not many are, nothing wrong with it. He should still be able to make us get into the top 4 with a good midfielder, but there's no getting away from the fact that he pissed £27.5 mil down the drain in the summer on a player that obviously never was suited to us, and the fact that he is shite against top teams. Been like that when he was at Everton and is no different now. That really is a shocking record what he has.
One thing I want to ask anyone who thinks he's the right man for us, or was happy with him taking over. What exactly did he do to deserve the united job? What has he shown that makes you think we'll get back to the top?
A telling point is that when sir Alex first retired, the vast majority on here we're saying please not moyes. Hes just not a united man.
One thing I want to ask anyone who thinks he's the right man for us, or was happy with him taking over. What exactly did he do to deserve the united job? What has he shown that makes you think we'll get back to the top?
A telling point is that when sir Alex first retired, the vast majority on here we're saying please not moyes. Hes just not a united man.
Once again, I'd like to point out the following...
We have to go to Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Goodison Park, St.James Park and Liverpool and City are coming to us....
We are not going to beat any of them teams at this rate..They'd turn us over easily...That could mean a whopping 12 defeats!!
We have to go to Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Goodison Park, St.James Park and Liverpool and City are coming to us....
We are not going to beat any of them teams at this rate..They'd turn us over easily...That could mean a whopping 12 defeats!!
Losing out of top 4 will drop our standard from a lofty position to that of West Ham.
Pick up the phone and get Mata Moyes.
You can't be serious. About every team in the world right now sees that Manchester United is struggling anyway. And every top club in Europe knows that our midfield is a bit shit.
What Moyes says after a shitty performance has no relevance as to where we stand in negotiations at all. He's just getting his excuses out already in case we fail to sign proper quality.
Wrote in another thread that his record against the better teams in the league - from Arsenal to Soton - is appalling: United have won merely 6 from 27 points in those games so far. Obviously, something is quite wrong.
Nah, just in meltdown. Just fecking pissed at how everyone in the top 7 (can't even believe I'm even saying this) are so much better than us this season. We're supposed to be the champions.
Suarez wasn't a top top player at the time. They bought potential and hes developed incredibly well. People are banging on about a world class midfielder needed in summer - they will not come without cl football.
I hope his praise of our performance is just a means to deflect pressure off our players - although at the same time that potentially makes them complacent. If he genuinely believes what he's saying we are fecked.
Fergie played Valencia at right back on numerous occasions, its nothing new. Nor is our one dimensional, pass to the right wing, style of play. To be honest I haven't noticed a massive amount of difference in the way we are playing, it's just that Evra and Ferdinand are now past it, and 3 key players are injured. If Carrick, RvP and Rafael were all injured for long periods last season, I guarantee we would've looked just as shite.
feck me people talk some absolute rubbish on here after defeats, all this crap about Moyes having had enough time now and proven he's not good enough. He's 6 months into the job ffs, at least wait until the end of the season.
I can't see how he can survive that if it really happens. He'll probably have to go, along with Woody and all the everton coaches he brought along.
It also has no relevance to what we do for the next month.
He was backed. There's no other manager in the world who would have spent £27m on Fellaini but we agreed to it.
Ok, bar the exception when do we buy top players?
That doesn't make it right and Fergie coped the same amount of flak for these stupid decisions.
Valencia has cost us 3 goals by not tracking back/losing his man/brain fade. Against City, Everton and Spurs. Playing him there does nothing for our attack. Why not just haul him off. Smalling wasn't playing badly and had managed to get into better positions than Valencia did all game. He also slows down our attacks trying to get on his right foot or being indecisive about whether to pass back to the fullback of cross. I won't even go into detail about his crossing
Exactly. We've got no option but to really push the boat now.
Ps. Anyone watching macari on mutv? Apparently top midfielders don't exist anymore
That performance is good enough for Moyes. He lacks ambition! Didn't he say he would have taken a point before the ball was kicked against Cardiff?
It's a terrible point.
We are Manchester United for fecks sake. Players will join us regardless of whether we play in the CL or not
After our last defeats I've come on here voicing my concerns about him (like the rest of you) but I have seen improvement in our last few games, hell even today I felt we played well but were unlucky. In the last few games I've noticed we are pressing a lot more and trying to play at a higher tempo something we haven't done in recent times. Take his subs today, I thought they changed the game for us which is impressive given at the start of the season he was just throwing anyone on for the hell of it.
I am still a little worried at how bad our final balls are in the final third but theres definite improvement which, given time, will put us in a good spot. This transfer window is big for us if we get a few names in midfield and a winger we should make a good charge for the champions league spot.
Everyone is saying other top manager don't need time to settle or he would have been sacked but lets give him a season before we get him to leave. I think he needs more time to stamp his authority on the team and get a few more of his players in - something we need to look at is with all the other top managerial appointments all have spent big to get players they want in, Moyes has not had that same luxury
He did????!
Anyone with that name is a bellend and usually has a dodgy chipper!!
Of course not. He still comes around like a bit of a cnut though. Defending the team is all good and well but he is overdoing it. Calling this a great performance is a slap into the face of 75.000 ppl paying for their tickets today.
To be fair, our midfield has never been in such a bad state where it has needed immediate world class. That's where we are with it now. My point is, the quality we need will be unattainable without CL football
He said after the Cardiff game that he would've taken a point there, yes.
We don't have a divine right to sign players ahead of other clubs. The champions league is hugely important for quality footballers, and rightfully so. A lot of them don't want to be joining the David Moyes mid table project.
As if it makes a difference what he says at this point! Yes he had little option but to lie to some extent, but how much doublespeak can you take from Moyes before you lose all grasp of what he's actually thinking about the squads quality and our goals for the season? A bit more clarity would be nice and would help build some trust.
Again, what do a lot of you think a manager actually does? It's not a computer game. You don't just press a button to increase moral, press a button to change formation, pick a team and done. Anything that happens after that is happenstance. It's a real, hard, long, human interaction heavy job, and you're the person who's supposed to be responsible for everything.
27 million was all we spent? You're seriously bringing the Glazers into this? Any other club and he'd be out of the door by now, and the Glazers still take some criticism.
I'm not sure, but if he did, it just exemplifies his defeatist and small club mentality and goes to show that a club that prides itself on it's winning mentality and success hiring a manager such as Moyes is a farce.
I'm not calling for his head, at the moment it would be illogical when there is no one we can replace him with, but it's a joke on the clubs part nonetheless.
I'm struggling to think of any positives aside from the fact he is giving our young players a chance.
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