What does he said? Seen his interview and there wasn't anything controversial on that.
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What does he said? Seen his interview and there wasn't anything controversial on that.
I read that he said something along the lines of being happy to take the draw before the match? Not sure if its legit or not.
In his Skysport interview, he didn't said that. In fact he said that the result was disappointing.
Don't know if he made another interview.
I didn't think we sat back. I thought they pushed forward and completely played us off the pitch. Big difference.
Hmm irritating comments
When the manager of Manchester United says he'd take a draw against a newly promoted team, sitting 15th in the table, you don't think that's an issue? Or at least slightly worrying?
It hardly sets a good tone.
He would take an away draw at Cardiff? What away games does he expect to win then?
A lot of people could rightly be accused of over analysing Moyes' comments, but...
If he really would've taken that result before hand then he must have a pretty low opinion of our team. It was Cardiff ffs, there are much tougher teams we could've faced after the international break. Surely he doesn't actually mean it? Those comments have to be him trying to ease some pressure after a result he knows was bad. If not then our standards have really slipped, no?
If he really would've taken that result before hand then he must have a pretty low opinion of our team. It was Cardiff ffs, there are much tougher teams we could've faced after the international break. Surely he doesn't actually mean it? Those comments have to be him trying to ease some pressure after a result he knows was bad. If not then our standards have really slipped, no?
We always slack in the match before the CL week. Moyes'
immediate priority seems to be to get into the knock-out rounds of the CL.
immediate priority seems to be to get into the knock-out rounds of the CL.
Also not sure how anyone could say we were controlling the game, they deserved a point as much as we did. I really find it odd that when the intensity of the way we play has been an issue for a while that it's just not changing. I mean you could look back to threads last season and probably the season before maybe longer and it'd be the same, people questioning why we're so sluggish, or only play after we're chasing a goal/have lost the lead. Sometimes we come out on fire and you can see the clear difference but most the time we're happy to just try and do what feels like the minimum required and this season we're getting called up on it. Really don't know what it will take to change it.
I don't really think its Moyes fault, although I do think he can be a bit too cautious with his subs, either trying to keep rooney/rvp both on when maybe they're not clicking, or going for the more defensive subs, but the bigger problems in terms of how we can lack urgency have been around since before him. Clearly some of it is cm, as that's where the tempo is set but sometimes it feels like more then that. Obviously you can't go to overboard as we won the league with these players, but it is an issue that doesn't seem to be going away and our competition is pretty fierce atm.
I don't really think its Moyes fault, although I do think he can be a bit too cautious with his subs, either trying to keep rooney/rvp both on when maybe they're not clicking, or going for the more defensive subs, but the bigger problems in terms of how we can lack urgency have been around since before him. Clearly some of it is cm, as that's where the tempo is set but sometimes it feels like more then that. Obviously you can't go to overboard as we won the league with these players, but it is an issue that doesn't seem to be going away and our competition is pretty fierce atm.
Yeh you have a point there, Cardiff were excellent. What I was alluding to was that we didn't press enough and put pressure on their midfield and defence.
City pressured the crap out of Spurs and Spurs kept coughing up the ball. They never let a single Spurs player dwell on the ball and Spurs just couldnt cope and folded. Add in the fact that City have players in the midfield who can happily and effectively run at defences with the ball.
Moyes was of course hundred percent responsible for this loss. One of the worst matches I have seen a manager do in my life actually as he got it wrong in so many levels. Anybody could tell you beforehand that Cardiff wanted nothing else than to bag in loads of crosses and rely on counters which hopefully lead to set-pieces.
Moyes gave them their exact game and thought "Ohh well we have Fellaini and Smalling so we will just sit inside our own box and clear crosses all day". Also the worst thing you want to do against a team who loves counter-attacks is play a team that is notoriously bad at keeping the ball and who loses it in bad situations all the time.
It was clear though that this was Moyes strategy as he picked Valencia and Chica who of course lose the ball a lot as well as Rooney who is terrible as a "10" in dominating possession. We ended up creating 4 chances through open play and Cardiff created 9, meaning they were the dominating team.
Just seeing the formation I knew we would risk losing points here today. Typical Moyes subs as well, Giggs? Jesus christ.
Moyes gave them their exact game and thought "Ohh well we have Fellaini and Smalling so we will just sit inside our own box and clear crosses all day". Also the worst thing you want to do against a team who loves counter-attacks is play a team that is notoriously bad at keeping the ball and who loses it in bad situations all the time.
It was clear though that this was Moyes strategy as he picked Valencia and Chica who of course lose the ball a lot as well as Rooney who is terrible as a "10" in dominating possession. We ended up creating 4 chances through open play and Cardiff created 9, meaning they were the dominating team.
Just seeing the formation I knew we would risk losing points here today. Typical Moyes subs as well, Giggs? Jesus christ.
That one sub would've won us the match if Rooney didn't bottle it. But yea, typical Moyes subs. Jesus wept.
E: Or it was Danny, can't remember now. E2: Wasn't both of those 100% chances created by Giggs long passes actually ?
Get a grip man.... jesus h christ
Yeah, the substitutions worked really well. The way Welbeck linked up with Rooney for his chance is something that Hernández didn't do within the game, and the Giggs substitution was the correct one (and that's how he's best utilised, as a sub or on the left). My problem is that we shouldn't be dropping that deep against Cardiff - I love how Carrick gets criticised for not dealing well with pressure, but all our players struggle under pressure - none of our players are immune from it. I hope now we can see Nani though.
Aye, I do think that this dropping deep is bad but I really do wonder how much it's down to manager's tactic and how much it's down to our players. I mean, we've been blaming them for the same thing a year ago, complacency and so on. This issue has to be addressed though.
feck off Moyes.
They cannot be legit?
I'm fairly sure Andy Mitten is reliable enough for us to assume they're not made up.
He can't actually mean it though. Even Everton would've been disappointed to draw with Cardiff ffs.
If he'd have taken a point today before the game he's at the wrong club I'm afraid.
Oh dear.
Moyes has to realize hes not at fecking Everton anymore.
Four points from Wales is more than most teams will get this season in fairness.
I have no idea where you lot got the comments from, but these are from the official site:
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...after-cardiff-city-2-manchester-united-2.aspx
Who was going to that on our team? We've had the same problem every time we've been pressured in midfield for about 3 years now.
Well I give a feck if the manager of Manchester United genuinely thinks that a draw away to a team sitting 15th in the table is a good, or acceptable, result.
Yeah, that's why I said in my first comment that the English obsession with comments is ridiculous.
Its ridiculous to expect the United manager to want more then a draw against Cardiff City? Okay then.
Also, you have no idea if I'm English or not.
It'd be ridiculous if he's actually said that.
Irrelevant comment? Those comments are from the United manager saying he'd have taken a draw vs Cardiff pre match. Its not someone from the caf.
And before you ask, am not English.
It has nothing to do with being English, and what a manager says is not irrelevant.
Hoping those quotes are fake.
He still doesn't know his squad. Why he is playing Smalling at right-back and not putting Fabio at least on the bench beggars belief when he keeps giving Buttner chances.
If he is to redeem himself in the transfer window, the first thing he should do is let go of Felliani.
And taking a point at a newly promoted team before the match begins is simply not on for a United manager.
If he is to redeem himself in the transfer window, the first thing he should do is let go of Felliani.
And taking a point at a newly promoted team before the match begins is simply not on for a United manager.
There's no way Fellaini's going anywhere anytime soon. Regardless of how he plays here. Also, I think he simply favors a left footed LB which is why fabio doesnt play there. Buttner though doesnt look like making it here imo but we'l see. We'l get a new LB soon. I dont understand why Fabio cant be our 2nd choice RB though.
The comments if true are bizzare.
Where are you guys picking up those comments from? I didn't read anything like that the last 2 days! 
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