AlwaysRedwood
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Absolutely chuffed for Moyes. Big game and we won it with a massive team effort.
Got his tactics spot on IMO. Arsenal are much more dangerous on the counter and by ceding possession we nullified that threat.
However he should be a little disappointed with our 2nd half display. While ceding possession may have been a tactic we were far too wasteful with the ball in the 2nd half.
Pretty much this.His substitutions still frustrate me. It worked today, but it's still defensive first. It was a great result, but it was like watching Everton eek out a win against a top 4 side last year. As a springboard going forward I'm very happy, as a template I won't be.
Surprisingly effective reading of Arsenal's game today
In Moyes We Trust!
Fergies words "Stand by your Manager"
Pretty much this.
We're Manchester United, we shouldn't be hanging on for dear life at home against Arsenal, and throwing on a big, tall target to pump the ball up to near the end.
Great result, good first half performance, but the second half had echoes of the Southampton game about it and it's worrying to see us defend for our lives at home, like a lesser team holding out against the top sides. I hope this is still just due to the settling in period and not a vision of the future.
His substitutions still frustrate me. It worked today, but it's still defensive first. It was a great result, but it was like watching Everton eek out a win against a top 4 side last year. As a springboard going forward I'm very happy, as a template I won't be.
He is indeed but this season Arsenal is simply remarkable and quite hard to destroy but still when I look on the players we have like De Gea, RVP, Rooney, Valencia, Jones, Vidic it's really hard to surprised at all.Why is it surprising? He's an excellent manager and has always been good tactically.
Pretty much this.
We're Manchester United, we shouldn't be hanging on for dear life at home against Arsenal, and throwing on a big, tall target to pump the ball up to near the end.
Great result, good first half performance, but the second half had echoes of the Southampton game about it and it's worrying to see us defend for our lives at home, like a lesser team holding out against the top sides. I hope this is still just due to the settling in period and not a vision of the future.
His substitutions still frustrate me. It worked today, but it's still defensive first. It was a great result, but it was like watching Everton eek out a win against a top 4 side last year. As a springboard going forward I'm very happy, as a template I won't be.
I think you've underestimated or have not seen what Arsenal have been capable of so far. They have been in excellent shape and win, win ugly if you have to, but today was a must win and a certain must not lose. I understand the gripes at surrendering the lead to the likes of Southampton but this was a massive result and we really couldn't afford an 11 point gap even if it is still early. He got it spot on and frustrating as it may seem from an entertainment point of view it had a touch of Jupp Heynckes Bayern about it, we played them to death without the ball and this squad has been trying that for a couple of years now.His substitutions still frustrate me. It worked today, but it's still defensive first. It was a great result, but it was like watching Everton eek out a win against a top 4 side last year. As a springboard going forward I'm very happy, as a template I won't be.
That doesn't mean it's what we should hope for, does it?As if we have been playing swashbuckling football for years under Fergie. Even back during the 07/08 season we the same as today, hanging on for our dear lives at home to Arsenal, defending a slender 2-1 lead.
We were a bit defensive in the second but you can understand that given the importance of the game. Hopefully it's not the Moyes way of course.To be honest I was actually surprised Arsenal didn't score in the last 10-15 minutes, they probably should have done. This isn't a negative reaction but I thought Arsenal were really poor today, particularly in light of the performance they gave against Dortmund. I was surprised how off the pace they were in the first half. The second half they were better but United played far too defensively, like an underdog side at times. They were completely there for the taking and it worries me that we didn't go for the jugular in the second half.
Moyes is a very reactive manager, and sometimes I feel it manifests itself in negativity. It is something that often hampered his progress at Everton.
I think we need to navigate games any way that gets results for now, I too would hope we play fantastic attacking football but look at the last 8 years for Arsenal, for me the results take presidency over the visual aspect. We still looked full of flair and invention today and also looked hungry and passionate, those things are as pleasing to the eye as beautiful triangles are at times.That doesn't mean it's what we should hope for, does it?
I'm not even being particularly critical, I'm just saying I hope it's not a sign of things to come as I'd rather we played more positively in big games.
I'd be saying the same if we'd played like that near the end under Fergie.
Pretty much this.
We're Manchester United, we shouldn't be hanging on for dear life at home against Arsenal, and throwing on a big, tall target to pump the ball up to near the end.
Great result, good first half performance, but the second half had echoes of the Southampton game about it and it's worrying to see us defend for our lives at home, like a lesser team holding out against the top sides. I hope this is still just due to the settling in period and not a vision of the future.
We were a bit defensive in the second but you can understand that given the importance of the game. Hopefully it's not the Moyes way of course.
I'm all about result taking precedence over performance, I've said it countless times in my time here. My point is simply, we played the second half today the same way we did against Southampton, like a lesser team holding out against a bigger side for a surprise win. It cost us against Southampton, but happily we held out today.I think we need to navigate games any way that gets results for now, I too would hope we play fantastic attacking football but look at the last 8 years for Arsenal, for me the results take presidency over the visual aspect. We still looked full of flair and invention today and also looked hungry and passionate, those things are as pleasing to the eye as beautiful triangles are at times.