Moyes has to go

Moyes out?

  • Knee jerk/I object to the term knee jerk because I told you he was going to be rubbish in 2003

    Votes: 296 80.4%
  • Head in sand/My name is Baghdad Bob and everything is going to be OK

    Votes: 72 19.6%

  • Total voters
    368
  • Poll closed .
I really feel bad for Moyes looking at that interview. He should resign for the best of all parties, himself included. Its never going to happen though, too much pride involved and it will end in tears for him.

Too much money involved.

That was a first for me. First game in ten years I could have watched and chose to do something else (after seeing the line up). Turned out to be a wise decision. :D
 
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Good grief, even City fans want him out!
 
For the record he shouldn't be sacked. I voted no, well not yet he shouldn't anyway.

If Woodward is smart (and I think he is), if the lawyers writing the United contracts know what they're doing (and I think they do) they would have inserted a clause where they could force him to resign if they wished should he fail to make top four.

He has under-performed considerably and therefore mandatory resignation and so no severance pay is fair.
Ferguson and his love for power and control.

If the Glazers sack Moyes they risk upsetting Fergie. If Ferguson turns on them, he'll probably let the world know the truth about the finances.

I suspect the Glazers don't want United fans to up the protests and make life difficult for them, this could affect the share price. Especially since the sponsors won't want such bad press.

I have a feeling it was not lack of value in the market that stopped Ferguson spending early on in their reign but the need for our transfer budget to be used instead to service the debt. Perhaps if they don't do as he says then he will tell the world how they came so close to crippling the football club.

They care only for the share price so I think if Ferguson wants Moyes to be given time then that's what he'll get. Ferguson in turn probably won't sack Moyes because he'll look like a hypocrite.

So basically the best thing for all parties involved is to help Moyes turn things around.
What the feck :lol: Top posts!
 
If match going fans began to chant / bring banners I wonder would it change anything?

Im not sure I ever really want to see or hear that. But it has forced owners hands in the past
 
I voted no. Kind of want to see what he'll do to us if given 3-4 years. I'm curious like that. Probably not the wise thing.
 
Almost 1 year ago we were unlucky to be put out of Europe by Madrid. We went on to win the league comfortably. Its still February and we are in 6th in the out, as good as out of Europe. We lost no players, and spend £70 million on 2. The only other change is the manager and his coaching staff. They should all be fired tomorrow.

When you put it like that it sounds brutal.
 
I've always thought that SAF used the 'no value in the market' excuse to protect the Glazers. Why? I don't even want to work out why.

But will the Glazers Let him call the shots now on Moyes? I very much doubt it if their bottom line suffers.
 
Ferguson and his love for power and control.

If the Glazers sack Moyes they risk upsetting Fergie. If Ferguson turns on them, he'll probably let the world know the truth about the finances.

I suspect the Glazers don't want United fans to up the protests and make life difficult for them, this could affect the share price. Especially since the sponsors won't want such bad press.

I have a feeling it was not lack of value in the market that stopped Ferguson spending early on in their reign but the need for our transfer budget to be used instead to service the debt. Perhaps if they don't do as he says then he will tell the world how they came so close to crippling the football club.

They care only for the share price so I think if Ferguson wants Moyes to be given time then that's what he'll get. Ferguson in turn probably won't sack Moyes because he'll look like a hypocrite.

So basically the best thing for all parties involved is to help Moyes turn things around.
My view is there's always been money to spend. If there wasn't, it lasted a couple of seasons at the very most as evidenced by Jones, De Gea, Young, RVP, Kagawa, Zaha - and now Moyes is in charge, Fellaini, Mata.

Glazers should tell Fergie to feck off if he doesn't like their decision.
 
Sorry about that guys, my eyesight has returned! Moyes has stripped Carrick of his ability to control a game and has robbed RVP's ability to finish. Moyes you disgusting human!!
Did you see the service RVP got in that entire game? feck all and yet the only opportunity he gets we all expect him to score.
 
He's not turning this around. It's now a matter of time before he's sacked.

The only thing that's keeping him there is the bizarre media response and the fact that the fans are too scared of Ferguson to boo at home games.
I'm sure you're not being overly serious but I'd agree Fergie is the only reason the crowd have been so supportive. I'd say that's respect though. I think it's been stretched close to breaking point now though and a reaction from the fans is inevitable in the near future. If we were to be humbled by Liverpool next month then I would sense big trouble.
 
Sorry about that guys, my eyesight has returned! Moyes has stripped Carrick of his ability to control a game and has robbed RVP's ability to finish. Moyes you disgusting human!!
As I said in the match day thread, 8 months of shit coaching will do that to a player.
 
the stats speak for themselfs just look at what hes done at UTD this season made an absolute mess
 
For the record he shouldn't be sacked. I voted no, well not yet he shouldn't anyway.

If Woodward is smart (and I think he is), if the lawyers writing the United contracts know what they're doing (and I think they do) they would have inserted a clause where they could force him to resign if they wished should he fail to make top four.

He has under-performed considerably and therefore mandatory resignation and so no severance pay is fair.
Are you trying to out-smart the poll here?? The idea behind the poll is simple. Should he stay or leave? We don't care about the technicality of it right now.
 
Football professors, what should the man have done different?

We played well(ish) against Palace so why change it? Where was Fellaini after he had his best game to date? Where was Januzaj? Ok no Mata but we have a perfect replacement in Kagawa. Why did we revert back to Valencia and Young when they've done nothing all season?
 
I was convinced that he should finish the season, because we can't find somebody competent until then, but it's getting ridiculous. He should be off tomorrow morning.
 
Still no from me but Jesus, today's performance was possibly even worse than one against Fulham.

Maybe some pressure will be on his ass after today and he'll work better under it, get his shit together and do something because it was a huge leap backwards today, compared to what we've seen on the weekend ( which still wasn't some out of this world football, just what we should've been playing whole season ). Horrible selection, horrible tactics today and being humiliated by ( no offence ) some fecking pub team.
 
He's not turning this around. It's now a matter of time before he's sacked.

The only thing that's keeping him there is the bizarre media response and the fact that the fans are too scared of Ferguson to boo at home games.
I wish I had your optimism Alastair.

My impression is the board decided in January when the season was effectively over anyway that they'd let him build his own team in the summer, get rid of who he wants and give him a shit load of money to make it "his squad" so we can judge him 'fairly'. We'd have to not win a single game from now til the end of the season to stand a chance of getting rid of him, and even then I don't think that would be enough.

The only thing now, is as you say, booing on a mass scale. Not only that, I'm talking banners, protests, attendances dropping, share prices dropping, sponsorship pull outs. Only then might Ferguson be overruled.
 
I'm not voting, at least not yet. First I need to take a trip back from this absolute madness. Feels like someone just tased me and hit me with a baseball bat right between eyes.

This is out of control.
 
When Liverpool destroy us 4-0 at Old Trafford, I'm pretty sure you'll see the club act!

They won't get out of Old Trafford unless they do.

As if the Glazers will even show up...

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Getting rid of him at the end of the season makes sense as it's unlikely the calibre of manager we need will come here before then.

This depends on us actually picking a quality successor though, which isn't guaranteed.

I don't think it'll happen though, if he makes it to the summer he'll be given at least part of next season.
 
Look for another manger this summer if Simeone or Klopp are available do everything to get them if not let him in charge for another year and hope one of them is willing to join us after that season if our football is still as shit as it is right now.
 
I'm not sure about sacking him but he's got to take full blame for this season. Even without the signings he should of made, he should be doing much much better. There's no excuse for his pre-historic tactics with the player he has at his disposal.

His negative tactics plus the continuous use of out of form players is very frustrating. One step forward and two steps back has been the way with Moyes this season. I know it's a big ask to take over Fergie, but the team is better than the one he inherited so is he really going to turn it round?

There was never anything to turn round, it was a task of keeping us at the top and he's messed that up already spectacularly.
 
A laughably incompetent prat of a man. Of course he should be bloody sacked. What else could he have possibly done to deserve to be sacked? He's a complete failure of a manager. Ridiculous.
 
maybe it will take seeing liverpool win the EPL to get the little ginger fawker out
 
The most amazing thing to me about the whole thing, is the lack of criticism for him from the media. What are they scared of exactly? Imagine if AVB had done this to Utd. He would be rightly slaughtered. Instead the media chose to re write history and claim that the squad is poor and needs a 'massive overhaul'. It's bizarre.
Well I can imagine that the media was previously unhappy with the way last season ended, as they've peddled the 'not a vintage united team' mantra for quite some time. They'll see this season as a vindication of that belief, and few would miss an opportunity to say they were right all along.

And as our resident scousers have noticed, when you want somebody to to do badly, 'manager needs more time', 'your players are overrated', 'this is your realistic level' etc. is repeated ad nauseam.
 
The loss of ECL money next year already dwarfs any pay off for Moyes. If he can knock a couple of hundred million off the club's value, I'd say the Glazer's approach may just be influenced a tiny bit.

Not sure, our share price continues to decline yet no accountability is forthcoming
 
The most amazing thing to me about the whole thing, is the lack of criticism for him from the media. What are they scared of exactly? Imagine if AVB had done this to Utd. He would be rightly slaughtered. Instead the media chose to re write history and claim that the squad is poor and needs a 'massive overhaul'. It's bizarre.
The press are constantly bleating on about how British managers are being overlooked in favour of the dastardly foreigners. A British manager has now been presented with arguably the biggest job of them all. And he is making a colossal mess of it. It is not in their interests to hang him out to dry.
 
The complete blind faith and support shown by the match going fans and media is bizarre. The majority of the fans at the Match seem to be obsessed with us having the best fans, rather than the best football club. My opinion.
 
I'm sure you're not being overly serious but I'd agree Fergie is the only reason the crowd have been so supportive. I'd say that's respect though. I think it's been stretched close to breaking point now though and a reaction from the fans is inevitable in the near future. If we were to be humbled by Liverpool next month then I would sense big trouble.

Yeh, it's out of respect for Ferguson which is really good to see, but as you say, it's showing signs of breaking out into a full scale problem. I obviously don't go to OT, but I imagine it's pretty split at the moment between stick and sack among the matchgoers.